HomeMy WebLinkAbout2025-07-02 PC MINUTESCITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
July 2, 2025
1. CALL TO ORDER
The City of Apple Valley Planning Commission Meeting was called to order by Chair Kurtz
at 7:00 p.m.
Members Present: Jodi Kurtz, Paul Scanlan, Dave Schindler, Phil Mahowald, Becky
Sandahl, and Douglas Hlas
Member(s) Absent: Jeff Prewitt
City staff members attending: City Planner Terri Dill, Assistant City Engineer Evan Acosta,
Associate Planner Sydnee Stroeing, City Attorney Sharon Hills,
and Department Assistant Breanna Vincent.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Chair Kurtz asked if there were any changes to the agenda. – None.
MOTION: Commissioner Scanlan moved, seconded by Commissioner Schindler,
approving the agenda. Roll call vote: Ayes - 6 – Nays – 0.
3. CONSENT ITEMS
A. Approval of Minutes of June 18, 2025
MOTION: Commissioner Sandahl moved, seconded by Commissioner Mahowald, approving
the minutes of June 18, 2025. Roll call vote: Ayes - 6 – Nays – 0.
4. PUBLIC HEARING
A. Snap Fitness Extended Hours Conditional Use Permit
Chair Kurtz opened the public hearing.
Associate Planner Stroeing provided a brief presentation.
Chair Kurtz asked if the CVS there previously was open 24 hours.
Associate Planner Stroeing stated that no approved CUPs were found for the CVS
so it does not appear that they were open 24 hours at any time.
Commissioner Scanlan asked what Kwik Trip’s hours were.
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Dakota County, Minnesota
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Associate Planner Stroeing stated that their CUP allows them to be open 5:00 a.m.
to 1:00 a.m.
Commissioner Scanlan asked if Kwik Trip has had any comments regarding the
request.
Associate Planner Stroeing stated that no public comments have been received.
Commissioner Scanlan asked if the property was designed to have an outlot.
Associate Planner Stroeing stated that the site to the west was intended to have
two multi-tenant strip centers which did not develop. There has been no
correspondence currently for any further development on that land besides the
existing parking lot.
Commissioner Sandahl asked what the City defines as “normal hours of
operation”.
Associate Planner Stroeing stated that the City Code does not define this but
generally speaking it would be 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
Commissioner Sandahl opined that the conditions should have the hours of
operation defined.
Commissioner Hlas asked if the parking lot lighting is included in the
“nonessential lighting” noted in the conditions.
Associate Planner Stroeing said that the parking lot lights can stay on as they are
used for security and are defined as essential lighting.
Commissioner Scanlan stated his concerns for allowing the 24-hour operation and
that other businesses in the area could come forward with the same request.
Commissioner Scanlan stated that the hours of operation that Kwik Trip has
currently may be a better resolution.
Chair Kurtz asked if the project would still move forward if the 24-hour operation
is denied or would they look for a new location.
Associate Planner Stroeing deferred to the applicant but stated that the 24-hour
operation is Snap Fitness’ standard business model. There are a couple of other
fitness centers in Apple Valley operating 24 hours though one is across Cedar
Avenue from a townhouse development and the other is in a commercial area.
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Commissioner Mahowald asked what the staffed hours for the facility would be as
the email included in the staff report states that deliveries will occur during staffed
hours.
Associate Planner Stroeing deferred to the applicant but stated that deliveries
typically occur around 10:00 a.m.
Commissioner Mahowald noted that the same email states that there are typically
less than 25 people who use the facility from 12:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m. Is that total
over that period?
Associate Planner Stroeing said it is likely total but that the applicant can expand
further.
The applicant, Geoff Wyatt, stated that they are moving from their current location
in Rosemount and abuts a residential area. They were open 24 hours at that
location too. The referenced 25 people using the facility would be total from 12:00
a.m. to 5:00 a.m., with the majority of that being in the 4:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m.
timeframe. The staffed hours are 9:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. The facility receives only
one delivery every two weeks. Mr. Wyatt noted that the parking lot lighting has
been off since the building has been vacant and there have been several instances
of loitering and illegal dumping so the lights have been turned back on to deter.
The facility plans to also have surveillance cameras. There are no plans to develop
the land west of the site. Mr. Wyatt also stated that there is a privacy fence running
along the west side of the site presumably to block some lighting to the residential
area.
Commissioner Scanlan stated that while there are no plans for further develop the
outlot, eventually someone will want to build something on it.
Mr. Wyatt stated that the City’s setbacks would deter any meaningful development
on that land.
Residents Steve Mohs (15076 Dunwood Trl.) and Renee Kubes (15088 Dunwood
Trl.) stated their opposition to the CUP due to concerns with lighting and noise
disruptions to the neighboring residential development. Mr. Mohs and Ms. Kubes
stated that the privacy fence does not adequately block lighting. They also shared
concerns over people using the gym who are not members.
Chair Kurtz asked if the applicant could replace the fence with a vinyl one.
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Mr. Wyatt stated that he is not the property owner but would be willing to do what
is in his control. Regarding the concern of non-members using the gym, Mr. Wyatt
said they will be deploying an AI system within the facility which will alert staff of
non-members using the gym. He also stated that they are planning to change the
color temperature of the bulb lighting to be less intrusive and more muted.
Chair Kurtz asked if it would be possible to put signs asking people to park on the
north side of the site to limit any noise concerns.
Mr. Wyatt said they would be open to that.
Commissioner Mahowald added that another option would be to zone the parking
lot lights so that only the north side of the lot is lit overnight.
Mr. Wyatt stated that it is possible, though the trash enclosure is located on the
south side of the lot and there would likely be more dumping if there is no lighting.
Commissioner Mahowald asked if there are any code prohibitions to the lighting
staying on overnight.
Associate Planner Stroeing stated that there is no shutoff requirement in code.
There are only provisions regarding where it is casted and the number of foot
candles.
Chair Kurtz asked if there are any Snap Fitness locations nearby which are not 24
hours and asked about any snow plowing considerations.
Mr. Wyatt stated there are none that are not open 24 hours. They would be
amenable to any noise considerations regarding snow plowing and could add
provisions regarding hours of operation for their landscaping company.
Commissioner Scanlan asked for clarification on signage.
Associate Planner Stroeing stated that there is a free-standing sign located in the
northeast corner of the site and a sign permit has been submitted for signage to be
placed on the north and west building faces.
Commissioner Scanlan opined that a formal lighting plan may be beneficial prior
to the Commission making any recommendations.
Commissioner Schindler stated he did not see any issue with the 24 hours of
operation but did have some concerns about lighting.
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Dakota County, Minnesota
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City Planner Dill advised the Commission that on a business site, they are allowed
to have lighting on 24 hours a day for security purposes and limiting their lighting
could have negative effects.
Chair Kurtz asked for confirmation that the lighting is already on 24 hours a day
and no additional lighting is proposed.
City Planner Dill stated that is correct.
Commissioner Hlas agreed with Commissioner Scanlan on seeing a lighting plan.
Chair Kurtz disagreed as the lighting is not changing and is already on the site.
Commissioner Sandahl also disagreed with requiring a lighting plan as there are no
issues with the current lighting and the applicant is willing to work with the City
on getting less lighting where possible.
Commissioner Schindler stated that the lights are on 24 hours regardless and is not
a factor.
Chair Kurtz asked for details on the interior lighting.
Mr. Wyatt clarified on the signage, that there will be no sign on the west side of
the building, only on the north side and on the east towards Kwik Trip. Regarding
interior lighting, there are no windows on the south side of the property, one
window is going to be boarded up and the rest are for private offices which are
used during normal business hours.
Resident Mr. Mohs stated that the top of the building is glass and lighting is visible
through those upper windows.
Chair Kurtz asked if glass at the top of the building could be boarded up so that
none shines through.
Mr. Wyatt stated that there is no glass that exceeds the height of 12’ in that
building. He said that the resident is likely referring to the crown lighting and this
can be controlled independently of the parking lot lights. One issue to note is that
the parking lot lights are set further back from the building to account for some of
the downward crown lighting.
With no further comments, Chair Kurtz closed the public hearing.
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MOTION: Commissioner Sandahl moved, seconded by Commissioner Mahowald, to
recommend approval of a conditional use permit to allow 24-hour operation of a
Snap Fitness facility at 15115 Dove Trail subject to conditions 1 through 4 with
the condition 1 reading “Deliveries and loading associated with the operations of
Snap Fitness shall be done during normal hours of operation during 8:00 a.m. to
5:00 p.m.” and condition 2 reading “All nonessential exterior lighting shall be
turned off after normal hours of operation at 10:30 p.m.” Roll call vote: Ayes – 5
– Nays – 1 (Scanlan).
B. Village of Founders Circle 3rd Addition - Picklehall
Chair Kurtz opened the public hearing.
City Planner Dill provided a brief presentation.
Commissioner Scanlan asked if there are any parking concerns with the
dealership.
City Planner Dill stated that the two uses will utilize the lots at different times.
There are no parking issues anticipated by City staff.
The applicants, Randy Motilall and Nate Golin, were present for questions.
Chair Kurtz asked if there are any other locations.
Mr. Motilall stated that this is a standalone business but there are similar facilities
around the Twin Cities. Mainly in northern Minneapolis.
Commissioner Sandahl commended the architecture involved.
Commissioner Scanlan stated that the project seems to be a good fit for the
location and asked what the timeframe for opening is.
Mr. Motilall stated that they are hoping to be operational by December.
Commissioner Schindler asked if there was space for viewing the games.
Mr. Golin stated that there will be an overlook balcony for viewing as well as a
large window in the food hall.
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MOTION: Commissioner Scanlan moved, seconded by Commissioner Hlas, to recommend
approval of an ordinance amending Article 31, Planned Development No. 739.
Roll call vote: Ayes – 6 – Nays – 0.
MOTION: Commissioner Scanlan moved, seconded by Commissioner Hlas, to recommend
approval of a final plat for Village of Founders Circle 3rd Addition. Roll call vote:
Ayes – 6 – Nays – 0.
MOTION: Commissioner Scanlan moved, seconded by Commissioner Hlas, to recommend
approval of a Site Plan and Building Permit Authorization subject to conditions 1
through 19 in the staff report. Roll call vote: Ayes – 6 – Nays – 0.
5. LAND USE
A. Provide Direction to Staff on Public Hearings for Variance Applications
The Planning Commission agreed to hold a public hearing for all variance
applications.
6. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Review of Upcoming Schedule and Other Updates
The next Planning Commission meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, July 16, 2025, 7:00
p.m. The next City Council meeting is Thursday, July 10, 2025, 7:00 p.m.
7. ADJOURNMENT
Chair Kurtz asked for a motion to adjourn.
MOTION: Commissioner Schindler moved, seconded by Commissioner Scanlan, to adjourn
the meeting at 8:20 p.m. Roll call vote: Ayes – 6 – Nays – 0.