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TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
NOVEMBER 9, 2016 - 7:00 P.M.
1. Called to Order
2. Approved Agenda
3. Audience—There Were No Audience Items
4. Approved Minutes of September 14, 2016 Regular Meeting
5. Regular Agenda Items:
A. Recommended Signage and Striping to Address Traffic and Speed Concerns on
Hayes Rd South of 145, St
B. Recommended Guidelines on Use of Driver Feedback and Speed Advisory Signs
C. Recommended Seeking Funding for Portable Speed Advisory Signs on Pennock
Ave and Other Streets
D. Recommended Enforcement Efforts to Address Traffic and Speed Concerns on
Everest Ave
E. Set 2017 Meeting Schedule
6. Informational Items
A. Other Traffic Concerns Communicated to the City:
1. Police—Reported Concerns Received
2. Public Works—Reported Concerns Received
B. Educational Issues—No Items Reported
7. Meeting Adjourned.
NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS:
Wednesday January 11, 2017 7:00 p.m. (Regular)
Welcome to the Apple Valley Traffic Safety Advisory Committee meeting. The Committee is a forum to hear citizen concerns
regarding traffic and parking on City streets, as well as pedestrian and bicycle safety issues. The Committee also evaluates
proposals for traffic control devices, signage, and striping and considers citywide traffic education and communication
programs. The Committee encourages residents to bring their concerns forward and appreciates your efforts to help make
our City a safer community. Specific traffic solutions may also have unintended and potentially dangerous consequences as
there are often engineering and liability issues involved with traffic controls and roadway designs to consider. When
evaluating resident concerns, the Committee follows a process that looks broadly at multiple possible solutions and utilizes
the City's engineering resources to help determine the most appropriate solution for identified problems: 1) The concern is
received. 2) Options are identified to address the concern. 3) Additional analysis of the options to determine engineering,
legal liability, and financial constraints or issues may be necessary. 4) A recommendation is made. We appreciate your
participation in exploring the most appropriate solution for the problem in your area.
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TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING TENTATIVE
AGENDA
NOVEMBER 9, 2016 - 7:00 P.M.
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Audience - 10 Minutes Total Time Limit - For Items NOT on this Agenda
4. Approval of Minutes of September 14, 2016 Regular Meeting
5. Regular Agenda Items:
A. Guidelines on Use of Driver Feedback and Speed Advisory Signs
B. Request for Permanent Speed Advisory Signs on Pennock Ave
C. Traffic and Speed Concerns on Hayes Rd South of 145, St
D. Traffic and Speed Concerns on Everest Ave
E. Set 2017 Meeting Schedule
6. Informational Items
A. Other Traffic Concerns Communicated to the City:
1. Police
2. Public Works
B. Educational Issues
7. Adjourn.
NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS:
Wednesday January 11, 2017 7:00 p.m. (Regular)
Welcome to the Apple Valley Traffic Safety Advisory Committee meeting. The Committee is a forum to hear citizen concerns
regarding traffic and parking on City streets, as well as pedestrian and bicycle safety issues. The Committee also evaluates
proposals for traffic control devices, signage, and striping and considers citywide traffic education and communication
programs. The Committee encourages residents to bring their concerns forward and appreciates your efforts to help make
our City a safer community. Specific traffic solutions may also have unintended and potentially dangerous consequences as
there are often engineering and liability issues involved with traffic controls and roadway designs to consider. When
evaluating resident concerns, the Committee follows a process that looks broadly at multiple possible solutions and utilizes
the City's engineering resources to help determine the most appropriate solution for identified problems: 1) The concern is
received. 2) Options are identified to address the concern. 3) Additional analysis of the options to determine engineering,
legal liability, and financial constraints or issues may be necessary. 4) A recommendation is made. We appreciate your
participation in exploring the most appropriate solution for the problem in your area.
Traffic Safety Advisory Committee
City of Apple Valley
September 14, 2016
7:00 p.m. Municipal Center
Minutes
1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Secretary Joe Shaw.
Members Present: Linda Dolan,Nick Francis, Charles Grawe, Fred Puente,
Matt Saam, Joe Shaw
Members Absent: Arthur Zimmerman
Consultants/Alternates Present: Brandon Anderson, City Engineer, Aaron
Kellas, Civil Engineer
Others Present: Bryan Root
2. Approval of Agenda
MOTION: Ms. Dolan moved, second by Ms. Francis to approve the agenda
as presented. Motion passed 6-0.
3. Audience Items
Mr. Root expressed concern about the safety of the crosswalk on the north
side of the Cedar Avenue and 1401' Street intersection. He noted that drivers
making a right turn to the north onto Cedar often fail to observe pedestrians
and bicyclists crossing Cedar from east to west.
Mr. Grawe suggested that Mr. Root communicate these concerns with Dakota
County as the County controls the design and operation of the intersection.
Mr. Anderson noted that the City is currently studying the nearby intersection
of 1401i Street and Galaxie Avenue. As part of that study, the City is looking
at extending the pedestrian pathway along 1401i Street on the south side of the
road, where no pathway currently exists. If pedestrians were to cross Cedar
on the south side of 1401i Street, there would not be the conflict with the 1401'
Street traffic making right turns. Mr. Francis explained the challenges of
enforcement activity around busy intersections.
4. Approval of July 13, 2016 Minutes
MOTION: Mr. Saam moved, second by Mr. Grawe, to approve the Minutes
of July 13, 2016 as presented. Motion passed 6-0.
5A. Crosswalks Concerns
Former Paideia School
Mr. Anderson noted that the crosswalk on 1471' Street near the location of the
former Paideia School has been removed. Residents have requested re-
establishment of the crosswalk. Mr. Anderson explained that the crosswalk
was established within a larger context, including the creation of a school
speed zone and a crossing program and crossing guards for the school. The
school has since closed and the speed zone and crossing program no longer
exist. The crosswalk does not meet criteria without these other two elements.
Mr. Anderson said that with the speeds and traffic volumes on 1471i Street,
current pedestrian volumes do not support a marked crosswalk by itself and
additional street design enhancements would be necessary. He recommended
that the Engineering Division study the entire 1471i Street corridor between
Cedar Avenue and Galaxie Avenue to determine an appropriate crossing
strategy.
Cobblestone Lake Park
Mr. Anderson said the Engineering Division collected data on three existing
unmarked crosswalk areas along Cobblestone Parkway. The group discussed
removing the curb ramp for the middle crossing area because the crossing
doesn't lead to a destination that pedestrians would naturally use.
MOTION: Ms. Dolan moved, second by Mr. Francis, to recommend the
Engineering Division discuss the situation with the Parks Department, and if
no additional issues are raised, recommend removal of the middle crossing
ramps and to mark the remaining two crossings. Motion passed 6-0.
5B. Parking on Germane Ave South of Palomino Drive
Mr. Anderson said the City has received complaints about parking on the
grass along the east side of Germane Ave between 1301i Street and 1271'
Street. There is also concern about parking between 1271i Street and 1281'
Street obscuring the visibility at the intersection. Germane Ave has center
striping, which is not typical for a street of its type. The striping may be
causing people to park further away from the drive lane.
MOTION: Ms. Dolan moved, second by Mr. Puente, to recommend the
removal of the center striping, to post"no parking" signs on the east side of
Germane Ave between 1301' Street and 1271' Street, and to post"no parking"
signs on both sides of Germane Ave between 1281i Street and 1271' Street.
Motion passed 6-0.
5C.Review of Speed Advisory Sign Data at 361 Palomino Drive
Mr. Anderson said that 851i percentile speeds of 41, 42, and 39 miles per hour
were measured over time. The speed limit in this area is 35 miles per hour.
The consensus of the Committee was to add an additional speed measurement
device without a visible sign after the existing sign to determine if motorists
are actually reducing their speeds in reaction to seeing the sign. The
Committee also recommended increased enforcement activity.
6A.Other Traffic Concerns Communicated to the City of Apple Valley
Police Concerns
Mr. Francis said the officer trained as a commercial vehicle inspector made 14
full inspections in the previous month, resulting in removal of three vehicles
for service.
Public Works Concerns
Mr. Anderson said the signage in the area of Greenleaf School on Galaxie was
replaced.
6B.Educational Issues
Ms. Dolan noted that the Toward Zero Deaths (TZD) Conference will be held
in November. Two police officers plan to attend. She also noted that Dakota
County's TZD is focusing on reducing distracted driving.
7. Adjourn
MOTION: Mr. Francis moved, second by Ms. Dolan, to adjourn. Motion
passed 6 - 0. Meeting was adjourned at 8:07 p.m.
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■ Regular Agenda Items:
■ A. Guidelines on Use of Driver Feedback and Speed Advisory Signs
■ B. Request for Permanent Speed Advisory Signs on Pennock Ave
■ C. Traffic and Speed Concerns on Hayes Rd South of 145th
■ D. Traffic and Speed Concerns on Everest Ave
■ Information Items:
■ Other Traffic Concerns Communicated to the City:
■ 1 . Police
■ 2. Public Works
■ Educational Issues
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A. Guidelines on Use of Driver Feedback and Speed Advisory Signs
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Public Works Department Policy Manual
City of Apple Valley, Minnesota
City of Apple Valley Resolution No. 2012-218
Adopted November 20, 2012
Revised April 24, 2014
Section 1 : Street Division Policies
1 .09 Driver Feedback Equipment Policy
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ADDITIONAL GUIDELINES FOR USE
OF DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGNS
For 2-lane Roadways with speed limits of < 40 MPH
Recommend the use of driver feedback signs sized 15 Y2"w x 13 Y2"h.
Smaller signs acceptable for use on low speed, single-lane per
direction roads.
For 3-lanes and greater Roadways or any Roadway with a speed limit
> 35 MPH
Recommend the use of driver feedback signs sized 40"w x 34 Y2"h.
Larger signs recommended for increased visibility on higher speed or
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B. Request for Permanent Speed Advisory Signs on Pennock Ave
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Pennock Avenue Speed Summary
(03/12/16 — 06/03/16)
All Traffic Solutions All Traffic Solutions
Fife N6 13575 Pennock Ave 3-29.2016 File NB Pennock Av 6-22-2016.tdf
Date Range 3/12poior to 3/�/ 016 date Range 5/112016 to 5/2/2016
Total Days of Data 19 Total Days of Data 33
Speed Limit 35 Speed Limit Variable:35
Time Range 12:00 AM to 11:59 PM
Time Range 12:00 AM to 11:59 PM Average Speed 25
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Pennock Avenue Speed Summary
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Speed Limit 35 Speed Limit variialale::35
Time Range 12:00 AM to 11.:59 PM
Time Range 12:00 AM to 11:59 PM Average Speed 31
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• Multiple Pedestrian Crosswalks and Signage
• Traffic Signal at CR 42 (No Connection to the South past CR 42)
• ISD 196 Apple Valley High School
• City of Apple Valley Community Center — Senior Center — Hayes Ice Arena
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I am approaching the Committee due to a posting on Next Door. Hayes Rd. has been out of
control . for many years, but is increasingly getting worse. I didn't know how many people
were concerned until I received some replies to my post. I felt I should bring the problem to
the attention of the City. While talking to area residents I realized how many people were
worried about having their kids near Hayes.
Very few people drive the speed limit and those who do are subjected to honking, or being
tailgated, or being passed either in the parking lane or over the center line. There also seems to
be a lot of confusion over the crosswalks. Some people stop even though there is no one in
sight, while most people totally ignore them. I live next to one of them and see kids zip right
across without looking, or they assume cars will stop for them.
I believe people are speeding mostly because they are unaware of the speed limit—there are
not enough signs. They turn onto the street most of the time from a road with a higher speed
limit—Cty Rd. 42, 1401h and 145th. The road is wide and fairly straight. It looks very inviting to
go fast. During activities at Hayes Field there are cars parked on both sides, limiting the sight
lines of both cars and pedestrians. We can't see cars heading south when we come out of our
driveway, so pedestrians also have to peek around parked cars.
Kids exit the parked cars also and most do not cross at the crosswalks-they hurry to their
game. This is a bad time of the year to observe the problem because the sports are done for
the season, but it leaves the road wide open for speeders.
I don't have the answer, but feel that something needs to be done. I feel that the electronic
speed signs that are used on Garden View between Whitney and 160th St. have been very
effective and might be an eye-opener to drivers on Hayes. The police do patrol and ticket lots
of people, but unfortunately they are too visible to drivers. It might help if there were more
speed limit signs—they are few and far between. Perhaps for the crosswalks blinking signs
might help.
I know my dog would have been hit no matter what. She thought cars could not hurt her and
walked right into the car, but the driver never even applied her brakes. I feel that she was not
being very attentive. I would hate to see the uproar if it was a child instead. Because of the
comments I received on Next Door, I felt it was my duty to bring this matter to your attention. I
feel bad that people will move away because of the street or that people won't let their kids
cross without them with them.
Thank you for your attention to this problem.
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Map(/map/?is=sidebar) Judy Shirk(/ from Apple Valley Hayes-20 Sep
Events Calendar(/eventsl?i... I WbM like to remind people to drive carefully with full attention on the road. My dog
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out to MOW and ran up the sidewalk,I saw a woman walking her dog on the other side
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is exactly what happened.She was hit and killed.We took her to the ER on Pennock-
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CATEGORIES the park there is a lot of kid traffic also. I love my dog like a child,but I hope I don't see
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About(https:/tnextdGor.corrdabout—us� We live on Hayes also and I'm always afraid for our dogs to get out and get
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Guidelines hit,We've lived here for 2 years and are going to be moving next spring,I'm
(https:llnextdoor.00m/neighborhood_guidelines/#guidelir es) not sure I would've moved into our house here if we had known then how
Help(https:/Inextdoor.com/helplj Jobs bad this road is.Many high school kids I believe contribute to it. I don't even
(https://nexidoor.com/jobM Privacy let our boys play in the front yard.I'm so sorry to hear about you dog.I treat
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Press(hUps1/nextdoor.com/press1) speaking up though,it is definitely a problem.
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(" from The Oaks of Apple Valley-20 Sep
I'm so so sorry to hear of your loss.We experienced an almost identical
event on Sunday.Our dog,too,ran into the street as she was getting out of
our Gar after her visit to the dog park.Died within minutes of being hit.i
share your grief.It happens in the blink of an eye and leave all involved,pet
owners and drivers,feeling terrible.Let's all be more vigilant.Thank you to
our neighbors who have been so comforting in our loss.
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(*~ from Guthrie Avenue-20 Sep
Sad!I'm so sorry for your loss.That is horrific.X
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(/news—feed/) ( from Caroliton Estates-21 Sep
I am sorry this happened.I agree people drive way too fast down Hayes
and do not stop for people in the crosswalk.I pay for our 5th grade son to
ride the bus to school because of this reason!!Pay attention people and
slow down,
Thanked!
(/ from Carollton Estates�21 Sep
1 am so sorry for you loss.I treat my dogs like my children as well.I walk my
daughter to and from school and notice a lot of the traffic and how reckless
a lot of the drivers are.I hate to say this but when I get my daughter from
school around 330 a lot of the cars are coming from the high school and
careless about the crosswalk.I stand in the middle of the crosswalk and let
my kids walk across because I don't trust some of the cars.It is very sad
that your family has to deal with this loss because people don't car about
following the crosswalk laws.
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(/ from Apple Valley Hayes-21 Sep
So sorry for you loss.I also am aware of the excessive speeding on Hayes
(as well as on my own street,Strese Lane).I know that AVPD sometimes
has a radar car on Hayes,but no where enough.
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( from Caroliton Estates-21 Sep
I'm very sorry for the loss of your dear pet.We walk almost every day in the
area.We encountered a loose dog the day before yesterday-he was
running around.We feel bad when we see this,and not sure what we should
do.I agree with all who say the traffic goes way too fast on Hayes-schools
on both sides,park,senior/community center,etc.Also,we have lived in no
other state,where the crosswalk and merge rules are followed less.And,for
a major metro,lane speed rule ettiquete seems to be lost on many.Sad,as
I think most folks in MN seem to be intelligent.Please folks,slow down in
the residential neighborhoods.
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(/ from The Oaks of Apple Valley-21 Sep
That's,ridiculous,What's wrong with people-Put your phones away.I'm so
sorry.This should not have happened once let alone 5 times.
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(/� from Momingview-21 Sep
1 am terribly sorry for the loss of your pet.My heart goes out to you.
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( from Apple Valley Hayes•21 Sep
and everyone else who sees a loose dog,try to catch it if you
can.The owner will appreciate it. I was hot on Molly's trail,but not fast
enough.She had not gotten free for months,but would seize any
opportunity.She did not run fast across the street,more of a trot,but I think
e a rc she thought a car would stop for her.She was not street smart mostly Invite
because she seldom crossed streets with us.In defense of the driver,she
(/newsreedl) didn't seem to be going excessively fast and probably could have stopped,
but she probably thought our dog would stop.I'm sure Molly had one goal in
mind and that was to get to that other dog,
(, from Carollton Estates-21 Sep
I am so very sorry you lost your precious dog.
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from Keller Lake,21 Sep
Sorry to hear this,perhaps you can somehow get one of those speed
indicator radar signs installed on that road,those seem to work best at
slowing people down
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( from Lac Lavon Shores,21 Sep
You are certainly right about people driving too fast on neighborhood
streets.I drive 30 mph on Whitney,157th and Gardenview which is the
posted speed limit.However I slow to 20 to 25 on all other residential
streets in our area.That has enabled me to avoid accidents when people
back out of drives without looking,or when kids or pets run into the streets.
Very sorry that you lost your dog.
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( from Wildwood&Palomino Woods-21 Sep
So sorry for the loss of your dog,Judy.
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( from Summit Oaks-21 Sep
I am so sorry for your loss
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(/ from Lac Lavon Shores-21 Sep
Judy,
I am very sorry for the loss of your sweet 4-legged family member.Your
message is a great reminder of how careful we all need to be when driving.
I see people go around cars that are waiting for oncoming traffic before they
can make a left turn into a driveway or a parking lot.I don't think they even
realize that it is illegal to use the ghost1parking lane to go around cars that
are waiting to turn left.This is especially critical in front of schools when kids
are around,but I see it almost every morning.
In order to reach more people,you might want to consider sending your
message to the editor of the Apple Valley paper to publish as well.Hopefully
the death of a pet will get people to slow down and obey traffic laws.
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( from Carollton Estates-22 Sep
I'm so sorry for your loss,Judy.Tear's are running down my toe.I don't
own a dog(have had many cats)but I absolutely love dogs! Invite
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() from Apple Valley Hayes-22 Sep
Today we got a very special sympathy card from the animal ER on
Pennock.With the card was paw prints they took from Molly.
tears are still running here too-I can't unsee the vision of her getting hit.I
want to thank everyone who helped at the scene. a huge
dog lover)was a huge help helping lift her to the blanket she bought out and
helping get her off the street.If anyone knows who the man was that also
helped with her transfer,I would love to get his name.I was totally numb at
the time,but would like to thank him also.
( from Apple Valley Hayes 23 Sep
My heart goes out to you.And thank you for the important reminder.
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( from Apple Valley-24 Sep
So sorry for your loss Judy.What a sweet face Molly had.Thanks for taking
the time to post this,
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Very sad,sorry to hear.Lost my dog,my'special friend'of 7 years.Cant
talk much about her and stay dry.Very smart and human-like.It's much
harder when so much time alone together.I understand that now,tougher
than I thought,Take care-
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(* from Apple Valley Hayes-27 Sep
Sorry for the loss of your dog People who have never had a furkid will
never understand the loss,but they are a total,unjudging friend for life.Too
bad they have such a short lifespan.We almost lost Molly last spring.She
had a rare disorder that didn't allow her to digest her food.It took the vets
about six months to figure it out.She had gone from 22.3 lbs to 14.3 before
they finally found out why.She had antibiotics,probiotics,special food,ex-
rays,ultrasound and lots of blood tests.She was finally back to a normal
weight and feeling good this Spring after starting a special powder added to
her food.Hopefully your memories will console you.Take care of yourself
too.
("" from The Oaks of Apple Valley-28 Sep
I am so sorry for your loss.
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(/news feed X) I'm sorry for your loss.I try to stick to the speed limit,but will be even more
diligent!
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from Eagle Hills-25 Sep
I am always watching for any animals and especially beloved pets whether
dog or cat.I would never five it down if I struck and injured a pet or worse.I
still remember the squirrel who ran into my tire and there wasn`t a thing I
could do.My dog is a runner too and I understand,We try so hard not to let
him out but he is like a bullet.There are times they just get past us.I'm so,
so sorry that a car came just then.These pets just fill our hearts.Sorry for
your loss.And children ARE a concern too.A child in our neighborhood was
struck years ago by a teen driving probably too fast.The injured girl was
wearing a helmet riding her bike,which saved her but...Cars are heavy
missiles and we forget that.Angels protect us all!!Love to you and your
family.
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( from Lac Lavon Shores-28 Sep
My heart goes out to your for your dog I too am a dog owner and it's my
biggest fear that mine will also get hurt I think the Apple Valley please
department needs to start patrolling more heavily on residential areas
because there's a lot of speeding there and much of it by neighbors of the
neighborhood and also the Federal Express and UPS trucks
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(# from Apple Valley Hayes,28 Sep
I am planning on attending the Traffic Safety Committee meeting to see if
any further measures can be taken to make Hayes safer.If anyone would
like to join me,please let me know.
( from Apple Valley Hayes- I Oct
When Is It?
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(/ from Apple Valley Hayes-2 Oct
I believe it is Nov 9th.I will let people know when I find out more.
( from Carollton Estates-2 Oct
Would be nice to have more police coverage in this neighborhood,at all
hours.
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(/ from Carollton Estates°4 Oct
It would be nice if they added the flashing lights to the crosswalks.Several
times I have seen people on one side stop and the other side isn't paying
attention and blow through if.At least the flashing lights would give an
indication someone Is crossing.Hayes is scary and I"m very sorry about
your dog.
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I'm so sorry for your loss.
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Oh so sorry about the loss of your fur baby very sad)Hayes Road
has been an"issue"since we moved here in 19861 Our youngest was a
Second grader at Westview-the first two years,kids from Carrollton were
walkers and had to cross Hayes at Upper 145th,which we all had concerns
about-They waded through the snow at the Community Center to get to
Westview from the back of the school(the current parking lot at CC didn't
existi).AVHS is across Hayes on 145th-MANY YOUNG INEXPERIENCED
DRIVERS COME AND GO FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL(30 years ago we
fought for a stop sign and all we got was a painted Cross Walk)Today,
there is even MORE traffic as the Ice Arena was added We have never
gotten anywhere with the City of Apple Valley!!Talk to us about Walmart
sometime!!(it was a corn field and a Pumpkin Patch when we built our
home here.-call us the Carrollton Estates Historians!!!)Lot
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(/ from Apple Valley Hayes-20 Oct
We moved here in 1972 when Hayes was only paved on one side and dirt
road from the edge of our property North.I was 8 months pregnant with our
first.Then they built the Hayes complex and high school,They wanted to
have all traffic go down Hayes to 42(no east-west streets).Our block got
together and fought that,so they put in 145th.140th was not an option at
that point either.Carrolton was just a farm.The property on the north end
was a farm and horse ranch(Red Horse Hill).With all of the new
development came a lot more traffic.Because the road is so straight and
open looking cars have trouble not speeding.When I drive the speed limit,I
have trouble with cars tailgating,honking,and passing.I used to have
nightmares about one of my kids getting hit.We did have one of our cars
that was parked in front of our house hit and totaled.Because of all the
sporting events at Hayes there is a problem with all the parked cars
blocking views of the cross walks-We went to the City Council to tell them
we could not see cars coming when we left our driveway.All the trucks and
SUVs really block views.They ended up repainting the parking lanes to
keep them from parking closer to the crosswalk.The view there is still not
good.People have to peek out around the parked cars.Cars coming down
the street can't see someone trying to cross.The last speed study that was
done that I am aware of showed the speed substantially over the limit.I am
deathly afraid that with all the kids both living in the area as well as those
using the fields that someone is going to be killed.I don't know the answer,
but we are planning to address the problem with the Traffic Advisory
Council,
(* from Apple Valley Hayes-24 Oct
The Traffic Advisory Committee is meeting on Nov.9th at 7:00 at City Hall.I
got the issue on the agenda.Would love to see others with concerns about
this issue also attend.
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SECTION 1 —STREET DIVISION
Pu blit Works Department Policies
City of Apple Valley
1.09 DRIVER FEEDBACK EQUIPMENT POLICY
A. PURPOSE
This policy establishes the basic framework for management of driver feedback equipment
within the City of Apple Valley. The City deploys driver feedback equipment on a limited
basis to assist with vehicle speed I imit compliance along public streets under the jurisdiction
of the City of Apple Valley, The standards described herein provide for the overall
management of the Driver Feedback Sign program in a safe and cost-effective manner, with
consideration given to available funding, personnel and equipment.
B. EQUIPMENT TYPE AND ADMINISTRATION
The City of Apple Valley maintains three types of driver feedback equipment, These devices
measure and display vehicle approach speed to drivers. Speed data collected by Fixed
Location and Potable Speed Signs is reviewed by City staff to address concerns of excessive
speeding, determine potential needs for additional enforcement or consider other
measures for controlling vehicle speed.
Existing City-owned equipment is categorized into the following types,
1. Mobile Radar Trailer: The City operates two mobile radar trailer units to collect and
display vehicle speed data for general speed compliance purposes. This equipment is
not used to record traffic volume or vehicle speed. The units are placed intermittently
along the City street system during daylight hours. Mobile radar trailers are managed
under the supervision of the Chief of Police.
2. Fixed Location Driver Feedback Signs: The City operates two fixed! location driver
feedback signs along Garden View Drive south of County Road 42, Speed data is
downloaded from these signs by Public Works Department staff and periodically
reviewed by the Traffic Safety Advisory Committee. The City does not anticipate the
installation of additional fixed location driver feedback signs within the community due
to the cost of operation and maintenance. Fixed location driver feedback signs are
managed under the supervision of the Public Works Director.
3. Portable Speed Signs: The City operates two solar powered, portable speed signs for
installation along public streets. These signs are intended for short-term, temporary
installation to assist with addressing specific speeding concerns within the community,
Speed data is downloaded from these signs by Public Works Department staff and
periodically reviewed by the Traffic Safety Advisory Committee, Portable Speed signs
are managed under the supervision of the Public Works Director,
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Additional information regarding driver feedback equipment operated by the City is
provided in Exhibit A attached to this policy.
C. PORTABLE SPEED SIGN MANAGEMENT
The following process is used to determine locations that potentially qualify for deployment
of Portable Speed Signs based on requests from City residents. These guidelines are
necessary to facilitate service demand and establish priorities for deployment locations,
1� City resident contacts the Assistant City Engineer, City Engineer or Public Works Director
to discuss specific concerns regarding speeding traffic along a segment of public street,
City staff will determine if the requested installation site would potentially qualify for
placement of temporary speed signs,
2. Sign deployment locations shall have a minimum average annual daily traffic volume of
500 vehicles per day (as determined by City staff) or roadway geometrics that present
additional challenges with speeding traffic.
3, Traffic Safety Advisory Committee reviews requests for Portable Speed Signs and
provides a recommendation for deployment of the signs,
4. Recommended sign locations are placed on a Sign Installation Schedule based on
priority as determined by the Public Works Director. New sign installation locations may
receive higher priority over previous installation sites (e.g., recurring requests for the
same location). The Traffic Safety Advisory Committee shall annually review the Sign
Installation Schedule.
D. INSTALLATION CRITERIA
The City has established the following criteria to guide the installation and use of Portable
Speed Signs.
1. Portable speed signs are installed for a period of approximately 21 calendar days. Signs
may be removed early due to vandalism or technical difficulties,
2, The Public Works Superintendent determines specific locations for sign placement. Sign
locations may be affected by several factors including, but not limited to, sign visibility,
underground utilities, sight lines for radar tracking of vehicles, tree canopy impacting
solar cells, street geometrics and other factors,
3. Portable speed signs shall be placed within public right-of-way, easements, or City-
owned property,
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City of Apple'Valley
4. The City accommodates up to five installation sites per year during the months of May
through October. The sequence of sign placement is based on the Sign Installation
Schedule as described in Section C above.
5. The City will provide advanced notice to property owners directly adjacent to proposed
portable speed sign locations.
6. Sign posts shall be setback a minimum 24-inches from the face of curb.
E. SPEED DATA MANAGEMENT
The Public Works Superintendent is responsible for collection, management and storage of
speed data collected from the Fixed Location Speed Signs and the Portable Speed Signs.
Data is stored within the public works central file system.
F. LIMITATIONS
While the City fully intends to meet the guidelines established in this policy, there may be
times when this is not feasible. Issues including, but not limited to, budget constraints,
critical equipment failure, weather, or other emergencies may prevent the City from
meeting the guidelines established herein. City staff must exercise both discretion and
professional judgment in determining the sched'ul'e and deployment of driver feedback
equipment.
Approved by City Council: November 20, 2012
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City of Apple Valley
Exhibit A
Mobile Radar Trailers:
Unit 1: 1997 Mighty Mover Radar Trailer No. 72
Unit 2., 2001 Smart Model 5700 Radar Trailer No, 73
Fixed Location Speed Signs:
Unit 1: 3M LED Driver Feedback Sign, Model Urban DFB (northbound Garden View)
Unit 2: 3M Dynamic Message System Model 900-ASZ-1 (southbound Garden View)
Portable Speed Signs:
Unit 1: Electrotlechnics Corporation (ELTEC) Model NTC-17E Solar Unit
Unit 2: Electrotechnics Corporation (ELTEC) Model NTC-17E Solar Unit
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