HomeMy WebLinkAbout01/03/1996CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINiJTES
January 3, 1996
1. CALL TO ORDER
The City of Apple Valley Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:04 p.m.
by Chair Alan Felkner.
Members Present: Karen Edgeton, Frank Blundetto, Dave Swanson, Diane Nagler,
Paul Oberg, and Alan Felkner.
Members Absent: Marcia Gowling.
Staff Present: Rick Kelley, Keith Gordon, Tom Lovelace, and Mike Dougherty.
Others Present: See the sign-in sheet.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Chair Felkner asked Staff and the Commission members if they had any changes to the
proposed agenda. There being none, he called for its approval.
MOTION: Member Oberg moved, seconded by Member Nagler, to approve the draft
agenda as submitted. The motion carried 6 - 0.
3. APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 20, 1995 MINUTES
Chair Felkner asked Staff and the Commission members if they had any changes to the
draft minutes submitted in the packet. There being none, he called for their approval.
MOTION: Member Oberg moved, seconded by Member Edgeton, to approve the
December 20, 1995 minutes as submitted. The motion carried 4 - 0, with two abstention
(Swanson, Nagler).
4. CONSENT ITEMS
- None -
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
- None -
6. LAND USE ACTION ITEMS
- None -
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7. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Sketch Plan for Kwik Trip. Assistant Planner Tom Lovelace introduced the
item which concerns property located on the northeast corner of County Road 11 and relocated
Palomino Drive. Mr. Lovelace noted that the current comprehensive plan has been
recommended for an amendment, which was submitted to the Metropolitan Council in eazly
1994. The rezoning of the property into a revised planned unit development has been awaiting
such time as the project for the relocation of Palomino Drive could be implemented and
completed. The realignment of Palomino Drive has progressed to the point where the new
roadway has been graded in, but has not been paved. Old Palomino Drive continues to be open
to traffic at this time. The sketch plan for discussion this evening concerns the potential
subdivision of the land on the north side of the relocated Palomino Drive, along with
construction of a Kwik Trip convenience store and motor fuel sales operation. Mr. Lovelace
then turned the presentation over to the proposed developer.
Mr. Scott Teigen approached the Commission and stated that he is the Director of Real
Estate for Kwik Trip, and was here this evening with their engineer Mr. Peter Larson. Mr.
Teigen referred to the overhead transparency of the sketch plan and stated that it is their
intention to sell off the east lot, to build their facility on the lot located directly at the
intersection, and then to provide for the sale of the northenunost lot for a small office building
or perhaps an auto service operation, such as a quick Tube or car wash. He said that their facility
would have eight dispensers, and two of these would be for diesel fuel purposes. He stated that
they do not cater to the tractor-trailer market; but that the diesel fuel dispensers are necessary to
provide service to such things as light pickup trucks that aze beginning more and more to have
diesel engines. They had not yet determined what their signage plan would be; but more than
likely would put a freestanding sign at the corner of County Road 11 and new Palomino Drive.
Commissioner Edgeton questioned the provision ofthe diesel fuel dispensers and asked
if the presence of diesel fuel would encourage semi-trailer traffic onto the site.
Mr. Teigen stated that their operation is not designed with turning radii to accommodate
tractor-trailer customers, and he expects that all drivers of tractor-trailer units could plainly see
this and not patronize their facility.
Commissioner Oberg asked what the hours of operation would be at the Kwik Trip
facility.
Mr. Teigen stated that they typically run their operations for 24 hours a day. He said
that at this location. it might be possible that the initial customer traffic would not warrant a 24-
hour operation, but if not done initially, sooner or later it would be running 24 hours a day.
Chair Felkner asked if staff had any additional comments related to the sketch plan
report. Mr. Lovelace stated that the planned development amendment, which has not yet been
written, could include such things as hours of operation, lighting standards, limitations on
outdoor public address systems, azchitectural standards, and other criteria which would insure
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the compatibility of the Kwik Trip with the adjacent residential properties. He said it would be
very important that a clearly defined circulation route through the site and the contiguous lots on
a private drive system be addressed at this time.
Chair Felkner asked if a signage plan was required with the site plan and building permit
review. Community Development Director Rick Kelley stated that while it is not required, staff
does prefer to see this submitted simultaneously.
Chair Felkner noted to the petitioner that the city's sign regulations are relatively
stringent, and that it is very rare that sign variances are approved.
Commission Oberg asked what. the county policy was on access to the county road
(County Road 11).
City Engineer Keith Gordon noted that a private driveway access would not be allowed
to County Road 11.
Commissioner Oberg then asked if the proposed north lot would be owned and
developed by Kwik Trip, or whether it would be offered for sale.
Mr. Teigen noted that it is their intent to sell the property and not continue to be owned
or developed by Kwik Trip. Mr. Teigen noted that while a few of thew facilities do have car
washes, that is not their primary business, and that those specific cases were ones where Kwik
Trip acquired existing properties that already had car washes in conjunction with the service
station..
Commissioner Edgeton asked what size building would actually fit on the proposed
northern lot. It looks quite small on the drawing. Edgeton asked that Lovelace review what
could actually fit on the property, given the constraints of the building and parking setbacks.
There was a general discussion concerning internal circulation on the site through some
type of defined driveway arrangement.
Mr. Teigen stated that while they can make some adjustments in the driveway locations,
it is their desire to keep the driveway access in front of the pump area; they could move it
easterly somewhat and add a second driveway approach on the easternmost parcel with an
interconnection between the properties.
Commissioner Edgeton stated that she believes that a clear and convenient access to the
north lot must be created. She asked if the pump islands could be turned 90 degrees in order to
facilitate access to the Kwik Trip site from a shared north south driveway.
Mr. Teigen stated they need to have the pump islands oriented toward the building in
order for the cashier to monitor the customer vehicles and to be able to observe the license
plates on the vehicles.
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Both Chair Felkner and Commissioner Edgeton stated that they do not want to see some
type of convoluted maze serving as access to the northern lot. Chair Felkner went on to state
that the purpose of having a sketch plan is to outline the concerns the Commission might have
over a proposed development in the hope that the developer will take those comments to heart
in coming to a final design proposal.
Commissioner Oberg noted that if a traffic semaphore is placed at the intersection of
County Road 11 and new Palomino Drive, there is likely to be some obstruction of the driveway
access to the Kwik Trip site when traffic is backed up waiting for the light to change.
Commission Edgeton asked staff to review the criteria concerning car wash facilities as
freestanding operations as opposed to operations attached to a motor fuel sales facility.
There was a general discussion concerning the status of the final revisions to the planned
unit development ordinance. While the Commission does not need to review the final language
in these ordinances, it may be useful if staff includes the revised ordinance with the next packet
on this item. for background information.
S. OTHER BUSINESS
- None-
9. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION:. Member Blundetto mooed, seconded by Member Oberg, to adjourn the
Planning Commission. meeting. The motion carved 6 - 0, The meeting adjourned at 7`40 p.m.