HomeMy WebLinkAbout12/06/2000CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
DECEMBER 6, 2000
1. CALL TO ORDER
The City of Apple Valley Planning Commission meeting was called to order by Chair Karen Edgeton at
7:00 p.m.
Members Present: Kazen Edgeton, Jeannine Churchill, John Bergman, Tim Burke, Tom Melander, Frank
Blundetto, Jim Hadley
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Consulting Engineer Pat Wmse, City Attorney Shazon Hills, Assistant Planner Kathy
Bodmer, City Planner Tom Lovelace, Assistant Planner Margaret Milton, Community Development Director
Rick Kelley
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Bergman proposed the addition of 7B, Outdoor Storage Sheds.
MOTION: Burke moved, seconded by Churchill, to approve the agenda as amended. The motion cazried
7-0.
3. APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 15, 2000 MINUTES
MOTION: Burke moved, seconded by Churchill, to approve the minutes as submitted. The motion
carried 6-0 (1 abstention-Hadley).
4. CONSENT ITEMS -None -
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Planned Development Rezoning for Carlton Lakes Mixed Residential and Commercial Uses
City Planner Tom Lovelace introduced the item. He responded to Edgeton's concern about having
opportmiity for input on the designs of future buildings by saying that the Commission would have the latitude
to comment during the Conditional Use Permit proceedings. Lovelace also stated the small commercial zones
were identified in conjunction with the applicant's mazket study.
Melander asked if every use is conditional, would every user come before the Planning Commission and
City Council. Lovelace answered affirmatively, that the building permit authorization requests and preliminary
plat would most likely come in together, so the process would be no more cumbersome than normal, similaz to
what we're seeing with users in the Fischer Mazket Place.
Brian Welhnau, project manager with Newland Communities (formerly Astra Genstaz), explained that
Newland purchased Genstar s U.S. operations. The only change as a result is their funding source. Welhnan
also reviewed the timing of the project phasing, saying he expected it to be a five-year project. He went on to
say Newland would likely put in the major infrastmcture and then sell pazcels to builders and/or commercial
developers.
Edgeton stated it seems like the pipeline is a huge issue. Lovelace said that city staff is working with
developers and operators, as well as Dakota County, to address the pipeline relocation issue. Bergman asked if
the pipeline would be relocated before building starts in Zone 1. Lovelace answered that constmction of 153`d
Street is probably a larger issue in regard to the pipeline.
Lovelace noted that park dedication would be sought to allow for access from the north to Regatta Pazk
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There was some discussion about adding landscaping requirements for single-family homes. Both
Lovelace and Peter Gualtieri of Newland indicated that single-family residences aze not anticipated. If they
were proposed in the future, aComprehensive-Plan amendment would be needed to add an "LD" designation
within the development area for low-density housing.
Curt Proud of Williams stated there aze six pipelines north-south and iwo east-west. He asked that his letter
of December 5 be made pazt of the record. Proud said it is important to identify end use elevations. He also
noted pipeline relocation costs are generally the responsibility of the developer. He asked that temporary
hauling or moving of materials (such as fill or gravel) not be precluded from occurring on the pazcel prior to
development, specifically in relation to the constnrction of 147`" Street east of Fischer Mazket Place. Gualtieri
stated that to delay their project by accommodating such materials movement would not be in their best interest.
Melander asked what uses aze compatible to a pipeline. Proud said it is important to avoid excessive fill,
strnctures and ponding over the pipelines. Trails over the easements would be okay.
Lovelace noted that we could make sure Williams is notified of any future meetings relating to the pipeline
issues.
Anthony Gleekel of the Siegel Brill law office, representing Fischer Sand and Aggregate, shared several
concerns with the proposal: (1) the importance of the planned development agreement should necessitate a
public hearing forum; (2) the plan is too general; (3) the timing is questionable as the impacts to the adjacent
property owners wuld be severe, especially relating to issues like the lowering of the pipeline in a limited time
and relocating Fischer's wash and ready-mix plants. Finally, Gleekel asked that the public hearing be held open
to give their experts time to respond to the proposal.
Gualtieri reminded the Commission that their original land use application had been made two years ago,
so sufficient time has lapsed to respond to the proposal.
Bergman asked how long would Fischer take to mine the area from west of the Newland proposal east to
Pilot Knob. Jerry Duffy, attorney for Fischer Sand and Aggregate, suggested 25 years. Peter Fischer,
operations manager of Fischer Sand and Aggregate, described their current and proposed future operations in the
immediate azea, stating he did not know how long the mining of the area would take.
Hadley asked if Fischer's sand and gravel permit stipulates extensive berming. Community Development
Director Rick Kelley answered that the current permit requires extensive screening of existing residential azeas.
Fdgeton noted that Mr. Gleekel would be allowed to respond at the next meeting, if there was new
information to present. That being said, she closed the public hearing at 8:42 p.m.
6. LAND USElACTION ITEMS
A. Minor Subdivision of aSingle-Family Lot into Two Parcels by Pete Smith at 13674 Dunbar Way
Assistant Planner Kathy Bodmer described the proposal and reviewed the public hearing comments.
Edgeton asked if the City ever put restrictions of the length of time hauling of fill could occur. Kelley said
the Commission could recommend a reasonable limitation, given the Natural Resources Management and other
ordinances. Bergman stated he would like to eliminate Saturdays.
Churchill noted a discrepancy within the staff report of the projected number of truckloads for fill. Bodmer
stated Engineer Pat Wmse's number is the correct one.
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Bill Sherry, Presidem of the Fazquaz/Long/Pilot Pond Watershed Association, said he is not compensated
for the City's storing water in his yazd, that the lift station is not adequate, and that Fazquaz Lake already exceeds
the high water mazk. He stated he thinks this is a timing issue and this proposal should be delayed.
City Consulting Engineer Wrase responded that the storm water system is not defective, but understands
that lakeshore residems have problems with long [water] retention times.
Bergman asked why the storm drain on the Smith property was not opened when it was built, and whether
that would have effected the referenced 1/16 of an inch impact on Fazquaz Lake. Wrase said he didn't know if
the storm drain had been open in the past, but that even if it had been, the projected 1/16 of an inch would be
unchanged.
An unidentified gentleman in the audience presented four petitions, stating that they represent 44
households that oppose the proposal.
Edgeton explained the responsibility ofthe Pkmning Commission to review land use issues based on the
applicable regulations and policies.
MOTION: Bergman moved, seconded by Burke, to recommend approval. of the Smith subdivision to
create two residential lots at 13674 Dunbar Way with the following conditions: (1)land-disturbing activity shall
be limited to between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. Monday through Friday; (2) all expenses incurred by
the City to uncover the storm sewer outlet shall be billed directly to the owners; (3) the owners shall be
responsible to make service connections to water and sanitary sewer; (4) the timeframe for truck hauling of fill
materials in conjunction with the land-disturbing activity shall be limited to a two-week period. Motion carried
7-0.
B. Setback Variance for Storage Shed at 113 Hidden Meadow Road
Assistant Planner Mazgazet Milton introduced the item.
Blundetto said he felt this petition was similar to a request in his neighborhood previously reviewed by the
Planning Commission.
MOTION: Blundetto moved, sewnded by Melander, to recommend approval of the Ochoada rear yard
setback variance,. based on its consistency with the spirit and intent of the zoning ordinance. Motion carried 7-0.
C. Site PIan/Building Permit Authorization for 77,380 s.f. Multi-tenant Building in Fischer Market
Place (next to Kohl's)
Lovelace described the proposal. He noted that the elevation plans had changed slightly.
Paul Bilotta of Centres Group, representing the petitioner, stated that Old Navy's pazem company within the
last ten days changed their facade for all new buildings. Accommodating Old Navy as a tenant is the reason for
the change in elevations.
MOTION: Churchill moved, seconded by Hadley, to recommend site plan/building permit authorization
for the Fischer Mazket Place building proposed on Outlot A, Fischer Mazket Place 2°d Addition, subject to the
following conditions: (1) approval shall be contingent upon the approval and recording of the fmal plat for
Fischer Mazket Place 6a' Addition; (2) the necessary cross pazking, access and storm water easements shall be
attained prior to building permit issuance; (3) building permit issuance shall be contingent upon action by the
City Council that would vacate or modify the access restriction easement along 147` Street West to allow for
installation of a drive approach as indicated on the submitted plans. Motion carried 7-0.
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OTHER BUSINESS
A. Adopt Meeting Schedule for 2001
MOTION: Burke moved, seconded by Melander, to adopt the draft 2001 meeting calendar, with the
addition of a meeting on November 14~'. Motion carved 7-0.
B. Outdoor Storage Sheds
Commissioner Bergman noted that there seem to be a number of outdoor storage sheds in the community,
and that many may or may not be in compliance with city ordinances. The Commission generally
acknowledged that. Kelley noted that it is a matter of human resources and city priorities as it relates to
enforcement of city ordinances, particulazly for "do-it-yourselfer's" who may not even be aware that building
permits maybe required.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Hadley moved, seconded by Churchill, to adjourn the meeting. Motion tamed 7-0. The meeting was
adjourned at 10:00 p.m.