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CTTY OF APPLE VALLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
JiTNE 20, 2001
1. CALL TO ORDER
The City of Apple Valley Planning Commission meeting was called to order by Vice Chair Jeannine Churchill
at 7:00 p.m.
Members Present: John Bergman, Jim Hadley, Jeannine Churchill, Tim Burke (amved at 7:05), Kazen
Edgeton (arrived at 7:03) Tom Melander
Members Absent: David Schindler
Staff Present: Consulting Engineer Keith Gordon, City Attorney Sharon Hills, Assistant Planner Kathy
Bodmer, City Planher Tom Lovelace
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Burke moved, seconded by Bergman, to approve the agenda. The motion carried 4-0.
3. APPROVAL OF diJNE 6, 2001 MINUTES
Community Development Secretary Nelda Werkmeister stated that references to "Chair Edgeton" on page 1
(four occurrences) should be replaced with "Vice Chair Churchill". She credited Commissioner Hadley for
pointing out the error.
MOTION: Hadley moved, seconded by Burke, to approve the minutes as amended. The motion carried 5-0.
4. CONSENT ITEMS -None -
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Amendment to PD #144, Zone 5, to Add Veterinary Clinics to Permitted Neighborhood Commercial
Uses; Site Plan/Building Permit Authorization for an 11,000 s.f. Multi-tenant Commercial Building
Chair Edgeton opened the public hearing at 7:04 p.m. with the standazd remarks
Assistant Planner Kathy Bodmer introduced the item.
Bergman asked for clarification regazding an automatic sprinkler system. Bodmer responded that it is not
required, but that it is preferred for long-term maintenance of plantings.
Edgeton queried whether the pazking lot would be curbed on the west edge, to which Bodmer replied
affirmatively. Edgeton also expressed concern about traffic interference with the proposed entrance locafion
and asked that the city's traffic consultant review the plan.
Rolf Lokensgard, architect for the project, described the building design. He stated that the intent was to mix
things up and add interest for an office buIlding, while including residential features to tie in with the
neighborhood. They were trying to reduce dead-ends and toms with the design of the parking lot. Lokensgazd
noted they would rather have one sidewalk. They would like to cross-pazk with the dental office or Kwik Trip
for the seven spaces needed. Ixt talking about the building materials, Lokensgazd said the location of block is
reminiscent of stone on old barns. There are functional dormers to bring in light and interest The building
itself acts as a retaining wall, being built into the burrow. He said that only the roofs of the building could be
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Bodmer noted that a conditional use permit would be needed for the proposed alternative building materials.
Edgeton asked to see samples of the proposed materials, as well as information about materials used on the
other two buildings in the subdivision, and what percentage of alternative materials is proposed.
Melander said he agreed with the Chair regarding traffic concerns related to the proposed entrance to the
parking lot.
Bergman asked what staffs opinion is on the petitioner's idea to locate sidewalk on the perimeter. Bodmer
answered that. if the sidewalk is removed, connections to the building and pedestrian links would be needed.
Hadley wanted to know what the trellis material was made of; Lokensgard said it would be aluminum or metal
clad.
The petitioner Dr. Ron Hunt wondered about the road that connects on the north end of his property, whether
its classified as a private road and why it appears to be totally on his property. There was some discussion
about the road and access point requirements of the Planned Development, as well as the history of the
platting of the property.
Edgeton asked Dr. Hunt about any sound suppression for bazking dogs. Dr. Hunt said he plans to isolate his
portion of the building with a brick wall and sand in between. He is still looking at interior materials.
Edgeton opened the floor to comments from the public.
Robert Baker of 8930 Hunters Way stated that he was appalled that he was not allowed to voice his opinion at
this public forum until after such a large investrnent by the petitioner, and that it appeared to him that the
Planning Commission had already made up their mind anyway. He noted that the subject area is one of new
construction, including homes that aze worthwhile. Baker went on to say that traffic has not been extensive by
either Kwik Trip or Dr. Simmons office, but it is difficult to get across Highway 11 because of congestion. He
expressed vehement opposition to a kennel because dogs go in and out, and manure has to be disposed of.
Edgeton explained that the Planning Commission follows due process required by law. She requested from
staff a list of permitted uses in the subject Planned Development (PD), as well as waste disposal information
planned for the site.
Bergman pointed out that the building is proposed to be built. into a berm. He asked for information comparing
the noise created by dogs bazking to car traffic.
Melander mentioned a dog training facility he was famihaz with, and what a good neighbor the business was.
Churchill said she understood this to be a clinic, not a kennel. She did ask how many animals might be kept
overnight. Edgeton queried whether weekend boarding is included in the services offered.
Robert Baker interrupted the meeting and demanded an answer to a question. Edgeton asked him to leave the
building, which he did.
Lee Kendall of 8826 Hunters Way expressed his shazed concern about the proposed entrance. He didn't think
pazking would be available at Kwik Trip and said he didn't want parking on Hunters Way. Kendall asked if the
dumpster was going to be hidden. He stated that noise is also a concern.
Lokensgazd stated the dumpster enclosure would also be burrowed into the hillside.
Ed Schrotenboer of 8974 Hunters Way, said he also has concerns with the fuming radius at the entrance,
potential odor problems, and traffic.
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Dr. Hunt stated he has some of the same concerns as people in the neighborhood, since he will be spending
many hours a day at the clinic. He went on to say his business has been located in two different strip malls,
and there have been no complaints or problems. He is amenable to moving the entrance northward.
Burke requested a listing of other veterinary clinics in Apple Valley, especially those located near residences.
Hadley asked if two entrances aze required.
Mrs. Kendall of 8826 Hunters Way questioned whether there would be outdoor lighting in the parking lot, to
which Bodmer replied that there will be.
A. Ehlert of 8922 Hunters Way asked if there was sufficient parking on site.
There being no further public comments, Chair Edgeton closed the public hearing at 8:02 p.m.
7. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Sketch Plan for Planned Development Amendment to Restaurant/Plaza Cluster in Fischer Market
Place, Located on the Northeast Corner of C.R. #42 and Galaxie Avenue
City Planner Tom Lovelace described the sketch plan request. He noted there would be some berming
required on Galaxie Avenue. He related three primary issues: (1) a pedestrian friendly plaza; (2) plaza was to
be an attraction from Galaxie Avenue & C.R. #42; (3) view comdor restrictions.
Churchill asked if the City was aware of the site line easement required by Kohls. Lovelace said he became
aware of it when the developer began discussing changes to the corner plaza area.
Edgeton expressed deep disappointment that a developer would enter into an agreement with Kohls, knowing
that it would not allow development according to the plan agreed to with the City. Churchill shared that
sentiment.
Hadley noted that there aze fewer parking spaces in this proposal than in the original plan.
Paul Bilotta, representing the petitioner Birchland Development, said that Kohls was critical to gaining other
quality tenants, and that without them he didn't think anything would have happened yet: He stated that Barnes
& Noble also has requirements, one is that there be four restaurants.
Edgeton said any revision from the original plan will need to have lots of flowers and mature landscaping to
try to preserve some plaza/attraction effect.
General discussion ensued regazding restaurant requirements and the constant evolution within the industry.
The Planning Commission did not appear opposed to considering revisions to allow uses like a deli or coffee
shop. Bilotta asked. about their reaction to the integration of some retail in that comer.
Edgeton and Churchill indicated small retail users would be okay. Edgeton said she didn't like the large
building. She also expressed concern that potential restaurants would not agree to the building designs
currently approved for the development.
Melander queried whether the developer had fiddled with elevations within the view corridor to allow a
sunken plaza or some similar enhancement. Bilotta said they could look at that, but that buildings would not
be allowed in that view comdor, regardless of the elevation.
8. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Melander moved, seconded by Churchill, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 6-0. The meeting
was adjourned at 8:50 p.m.
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