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CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
AUGUST 15, 2001
1. CALL TO ORDER
The City of Apple Valley Planning Commission meeting was called to order by Chair Karen Edgeton at 7:00 p.m.
Members Present: John Bergman, Jeannine Churchill, David Schindler, Kazen Edgeton, Tim Burke, Tom Melander, Jim
Hadley
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Consulting Engineer Keith Gordon, City Attorney Sharon Hills, Assistant Planner Kathy Bodmer, City Planner
Tom Lovelace, Community Development Director Rick Kelley
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Community Development Director Rick Kelley stated that the petitioner for item SA has asked that the item be continued to
the next meeting.
MOTION: Churchill moved, seconded by Bergman, to approve the agenda. The motion carried 7-0.
3. APPROVAL OF AUGUST 1, 2001 MINUTES
MOTION: Burke moved, seconded by Churchill, to approve the minutes as presented. The motion carried 7-0.
4. CONSENT ITEMS
A. Frontyard Setback Variance to Allow Encroachment of Eave Covering Over sidewalk to Front Door at 14334
Ebony Lane
MOTION: Burke moved, seconded by Churchill, to recommend approval of the consent agenda. The motion carried 7-0.
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Planned Development Amendment to Restaurant/Plaza Cluster PD #646
The public hearing remained continued to the next meeting
S. Cobblestone Lake -Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Plannued Unit Development Rezoning and Preliminary Plat
for Mixed Use Development at the Northeast Corner of Pilot Knob Road and C.R #46
City Planner Tom Lovelace introduced the item. Chair Edgeton asked Lovelace for a brief history of the process, given the
fact that a public hearing was held in April of 2000.
Churchill wondered if there would be pazking restrictions on the reduced width streets. She noted that streets sometimes
become naturally narrower during years of heavy snowfall. Lovelace answered the City would likely restrict parking to one
side of the street, and that there would be bumpout parking on the road around the lake. He noted that the current proposal
includes all public streets.
Lovelace also explained the process of rezoning to a planned development. In this situation, a preliminary plat is proposed
only for the single family portion of the development at this time. Every preliminary plat applicafion for future development
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would trigger another public hearing.
Rob W achholz of Tradition Development distributed a booklet of renderings to the Planning Commission and displayed a
Powerpoint presentation for the audience.
Bergman asked what percentage of each housing type would be in the development. Wachholz stated they don't know at this
point, but that there are 136 single family units proposed for this first phase.
Churchill requested a delineation of the lot sizes proposed.
Melander commented on the narrow street frontage
Edgeton said that the reduced street widths and reduced lot sizes may be perceived to be cramming as many lots as possible
onto the site. She asked Wachholz to elaborate on their neighborhood theory. Wachholz noted that the proposed lots still have
depth, even though the street frontage is narrowed. They are trying to get away from the garage and vehicle dominating the
neighborhood, doing so through design of streets, lots and architecture of the homes.
Edgeton opened the hearing to public comment
Charlene Joyce of 15443 Drexel Way continues to be disappointed that not all single family lots are proposed to adjoin the
Apple Valley East neighborhood where she lives. Also, she thought the City was going to have more affordable housing, and
these units will start at $275,000. Joyce expressed safety concerns in that people from Prairie Crossing have to cross. a busy
Dodd Road to get to the Apple Valley East Pazk, and that the proposal may draw more pedestrian traffic. She suggested a
tunnel under Dodd Road for pedestrian access. Joyce closed by saying she likes the project for the most part.
Pat Reisinger of 12883 Everest Avenue cited the petitioner's request for reduced setbacks, street widths, etc. He wondered
what the citizens of Apple Valley are getting in return. He expressed concern that their request for exceptions would continue
to expand with each~phase of the project. Edgeton noted that any future proposals would need to mesh with the concept plan
approved now. -
There being no further comments from the public, Edgeton closed the public hearing at 8:00 p.m.
C. Majes&c Ridge -Rezoning and Preliminary Plat for 7 Single Family Lots at the Southeast Corner of Cedar Avenue
& 138 Street by Diedrich Builders
Chair Edgeton opened the public hearing with the standard remarks.
Assistant Planner Kathy Bodmer described the request. She noted that the reduced frorit setback on Lots 1 and 2 was being
requested both to save trees and because of the slopes in the rear yards. The submitted plans showed aright-of--way 25 feet
less than what is required by Dakota County..
Traffic Engineer Consultant Glen Van Wormer offered his review of the proposed development. One main concern is the
location of the proposed frontage road intersection with the existing frontage road and 138a' Street intersection. Northbound
tracks on Cedar Avenue, making the 180 degree turn to the proposed frontage road, could not physically make the turn, and
other vehicles would fmd it difficult to stay in the proper lanes. Also a concern is the ability of a vehicle from the proposed
development to block the eastbound access to the frontage road. Other concerns such as snow storage were cited and aze
included in his letter, which is part of the record. Van Wormer also showed possible alternative road configurations to serve
the site.
Because the plans must be revised to reflect the required right-o£ way, Bodmer recommended that the public hearing be held
open.
Edgeton stated the futility to discuss a plan that isn't feasible, referring to the 25-footright-of--way change that will impact
everything.
MOTION: Churchill moved, seconded by Bergman, to continue the public hearing to a future meeting after the County
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right-of--way issues have been addressed, keeping in mind the statutory requirement that rezoning requests be reviewed
within 60 days. Motion carried 7-0.
6. LAND USE/ACTION ITEMS -None -
7. OTHER BUSINESS -None -
8. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Hadley moved, seconded by Churchill, to adjourn the meeting. Motion tamed 7-0. The meeting was adjourned at
8:30 p.m.
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