HomeMy WebLinkAbout08/17/1994CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
August 17, 1994
1. CALL TO ORDER
The City of Apple Valley Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:05
p.m. by Chairman Alan Felkner.
Members Present: Frank Blundetto, Karen Edgeton, Alan Felkner, Len Miller,
Marcia Gowling.
Members Absent: Jeannine Churchill, James Cady.
Staff Present: John Gretz, John Kragness, Mike Dougherty, Keith Gordon,
and Planning Consultants Alan Kretman and Jeff Smyser.
Others Present: See the sign -in sheet.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Chair Felkner asked Staff if there were any changes to the agenda. Staff responded
that there were none.
MOTION Edgeton moved, seconded by Blundetto, to approve the agenda. The
motion carried 5 - 0.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 3, 1994
Chair Felkner asked Staff if there were any corrections to the minutes. Staff
responded that there were none.
MOTION Edgeton moved, seconded by Blundetto, to approve the minutes of
August 3, 1994, as submitted. The motion carried 3 - 0, with 2 abstentions ( Felkner,
Gowling).
4. CONSENT ITEMS
- None -
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5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Site Plan Review and Preliminary Plat for 28 multiple residential units -
Nordic Woods 17th
Planning Consultant Alan Kretman presented this item. He displayed a series of
overhead transparencies that illustrated the site and the development proposal. This site
is located on the southeast corner of Galaxie Avenue and McAndrews Road and is
designated for multiple residential use. Current zoning of the site allows 6 to 15 units per
acre. This development as proposed is at a density of 12 units per acre, consisting of 28
condominium units. There would be one 14 -unit building in the center of the development
and seven 2 -unit buildings on the outlying areas. Kretman pointed out his concerns,
including adequate setbacks to the single family addition; the need for common open space;
the need for additional guest parking. The recommendation is to create a space for guest
parking and provide common open space, as well as a trail connection.
A 35 -foot setback to the public right of way is preferred. One variance has been
granted previously in that regard. Other issues include the selection of appropriate plant
materials and grading modifications required by the City Engineer.
Chair Felkner opened the floor to questions from the Commissioners.
Blundetto asked where the six guest parking spaces came from. Kretman responded
that this refers to the 13 units (six on the northeast and seven to the south) which lack
adequate parking based on the typical 1/2 stall per unit.
Gowling asked if setback variances would be needed along Galaxie Avenue.
Kretman responded that this is consistent with what has been done in the past. Edgeton
asked if that was because variances had been granted in the past. Kretman replied
affirmatively.
Felkner asked about percentage of green space. Kretman replied there is roughly
two acres of open space, or about 60 %. Blundetto reiterated the importance of knowing
the exact amount of green space. Kretman replied he would get that information.
Gowling asked if from the rear lot to the road was right -of -way. Kretman responded,
yes.
Edgeton asked if the large building in the center as proposed was an apartment type.
Kretman responded that it was a townhome style of condominium which is another form of
ownership -- space ownership versus land ownership.
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Felkner asked if the applicant was looking for action on this item tonight. The
applicant responded that they would like building to occur this season. Kretman
recommended that the Commission act in two weeks.
Member Miller commented that the 14 -plex floor plan shows an individual entrance
for each unit and that the drawings seem to reflect a main entrance. Kretman responded
that the applicant is welcome to address that issue. From his review, it appears there are
single entrances for each unit.
Felkner asked if there were any other questions for Staff.
The petitioner was represented by Jeff McDonald of E. G. Rud. He distributed a
revised landscape plan, a revised grading plan, and a revised preliminary plat. Forrest
Harstad, the petitioner, remarked that this development is the same product as that
proposed at 138th and Cedar, except that they have extended an 8 -unit building into a 14-
unit building.
Mr. McDonald proceeded to describe the modular units in detail. He noted that they
could be configured into any number of units. Blundetto asked if it is that easy, why there
are no drawings indicative of a 14 -unit building. Harstad responded that it costs $3,000 to
do a drawing of a 14 -unit plex. He distributed a brochure showing a floor plan of the
modular units.
Discussion continued regarding configuration of the units, as well as green space.
Edgeton asked if a 14 -unit building was appropriate for the density requirements.
Kretman responded that the configuration doesn't matter if the density is met, which in this
case it is.
Chair Felkner reviewed the expectations of the Commission regarding petitioners and
asked for public input.
Mary Gainey of 6834 132nd Street Court asked that the townhome dwellers be
considered in the landscaping plans, in addition to those single family dwellers. She also
expressed concern about the increase in traffic due to the zoo, the new school, etc. She felt
it inappropriate to put that many people into that particular space and was concerned about
green space and noise as well. Kretman responded that the density allowance was 12 plus
units per acre. Gainey also questioned whether the buffer to McAndrews was truly
significant.
The public hearing was held open.
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5B. Site Plan Review and Conditional Use Permit for On -sale Liquor - Class I
Restaurant (East Side Mario's) and Addition to Best Buy
Planning Consultant Jeff Smyser presented this item. He noted that the proposed
project is compatible with both the comprehensive land use plan and the current zoning
designation. This proposal includes an 8400 s.f. addition to the existing Best Buy store, an
attached s.f. building for future retail, and a 7400 s.f. restaurant with an additional area of
outdoor patio seating.
Remaining to be addressed are the appearance in height of fence surrounding the
outdoor patio, and also the emergency access from the outdoor patio.
Staff recommended an access change utilizing the existing curb cut as the main access
to the restaurant site and eliminating the southern driveway off the service road. The
parking stalls as drawn are not large enough, but there is sufficient space to meet the
parking code requirements. A signage plan has not yet been submitted. Recommendations
are noted on the written report.
Chair Felkner asked if the petitioner was looking for action on this item tonight.
Smyser responded affirmatively.
Blundetto commented on a pylon sign. Smyser noted that there is a sign indicated
on the southeast corner of the restaurant site.
Felkner questioned how comfortable Staff was in asking for action on this item this
evening, noting that a sign plan is not available, and there is a question of access and service
bay area which may change.
Gowling asked where the delivery and trash areas are. Smyser pointed out the
locations on the drawings.
Chair Felkner asked for petitioner comments. The petitioner was represented by
Greg Madsen of Ryan Companies. He noted that the same brick and accent striping as Best
Buy will be utilized for the retail addition. They will work with Staff on additional screening
recommendations. Access is the main issue. The petitioner feels that 100 foot access to the
east, centralizing the curb cut, would actually lessen traffic problems rather than create
them.
Blundetto asked for clarification of the entrance for delivery. Jim Greupner of East
Side Mario's responded that their supplier Sysco will accommodate them with the size of
vehicle most appropriate to the site. He also noted that the finish of the building will be
the same all the way around, thereby making it attractive on every side. He emphasized the
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importance of the original access proposed on 153rd Street. He also noted that the patio
fence will be about 3 feet in height, painted to match the rest of the building and will
comply with Staff recommendations.
Felkner asked for clarification as to what access East Side Mario's desires, and what
access Staff is recommending.
Edgeton felt that East Side Mario's access request was reasonable.
John Gretz stated that Staff would be comfortable with what is shown in the original
plan as long as there were no problems with the middle lane, and if the traffic engineer
concurs.
City Engineer Keith Gordon noted that there is a signalized intersection to Cub
Foods and Target Greatland, and it's only about 150 feet to the proposed East Side Mario's
entrance. That is a very small distance to allow for left turns into a signalized intersection
and opposing left -hand turns into the restaurant site. Gretz suggested a possible
compromise by sliding the original entrance down a short distance.
Discussion ensued regarding the access and what the restaurant will offer.
Edgeton asked the petitioner if Staff recommendations could be worked out.
Greupner replied that the only major issue was the access. All others are details that can
be worked out.
Greupner showed photographs illustrating the interior of the restaurant.
There were no comments from the public.
The public hearing was closed and a 10- minute recess was taken.
The meeting reconvened at 8:45 p.m.
John Gretz deferred to City Attorney Mike Dougherty for Staff recommendations.
Dougherty responded that City Staff believes it would be appropriate for the traffic engineer
to determine the point of access. If the access designation does not impact the building and
its location on the site, this issue could move forward as proposed.
Edgeton asked under what conditions the issue would be brought back to the
Planning Commission. Dougherty responded that building orientation change would bring
the issue back to the Planning Commission. The petitioner has no problems with any other
items.
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MOTION Edgeton moved to approve the site plan review, contingent on the
conditions stated in the Staff report, with the exception of item number 4, an access as
reviewed by the Engineer. Blundetto seconded the motion, and the motion carried 5 - 0.
MOTION Edgeton moved that the conditional use permit for on -sale liquor at Class
I Restaurant be granted with the conditions stated in the written report.. Blundetto
seconded the motion, which carried 5 - 0.
6. LAND USE /ACTION ITEMS
A. Planned Development Zoning Amendment for Alternative Environmental High
School and Preliminary Plat for 1 Institutional Lot
John Gretz noted that the City of Apple Valley fills the role of implementer in this
project involving ISD #196, Dakota County, and the City of Apple Valley.
The School District and architects have been forced to put together an alternate plan
because of requirements by the bonding company prohibiting construction of the parking
lot over the pipeline easement.
Doug Danks of HGA Architects, representing the petitioner, showed a revised site
plan. The alternate plan endorsed by ISD #196 includes combining some of the parking
area with some turnaround functions.
In response to comments and Staff recommendations at the previous public hearing,
the following changes are proposed:
1) Increase the number of parking stalls from 205 to 225.
2) Two parking lots will exist, both closer to the main building.
3) There is a balance of the parking lot with 110 stalls to the south and west, and
115 to the north and east.
4) Because of the environmental theme, everyone involved is trying to minimize
the hard surface areas. With that in mind, the parties are working to get an agreement to
designate Zoo Lot E as available for overflow parking.
Gowling asked that the entrance and drives be shown on the plan. Edgeton asked
how access would be gained to the second parking lot. Danks replied that entrance would
be made through the Zoo. There has been some discussion about reopening the entrance
formerly available from Johnny Cake Ridge Road.
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Felkner asked for feelings of the School District in regard to the proximity of the two
parking lots. Danks noted that the topography does not allow a drive behind the building
to connect the two parking lots. No parking can occur over the pipeline per the bonding
company.
Tom Goodwin of ISD #196 noted that they would have to be creative as to the
instructions to parents and visitors as to where to park and how to access those areas.
Gretz noted that it would be possible to redo the access from Johnny Cake.
Edgeton asked how the City felt about emergency access. Gretz replied that the Fire
Marshall had reviewed the plans and they were adequate. Danks noted there is also
adequate access through the formal courtyard.
Edgeton asked for Staff recommendations. Gretz responded that Staff recommends
approval of this project.
MOTION Gowling moved to approve the planned development zoning amendment
to include an alternative environmental high school. Edgeton seconded, and the motion
carried 5 - 0.
MOTION Gowling moved to approve the preliminary plat for one institutional lot.
Edgeton seconded, and the motion carried 5 - 0.
MOTION Gowling moved to approve the site plan and building permit
authorization of the alternative environmental high school. Edgeton seconded, and the
motion carried 5 - 0.
7. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Development Checklist
Felkner suggested that Staff utilize the development checklist for a period of one
month and report to the Commission for feedback.
B. Variance Discussion
John Gretz noted that 90% of variances could be eliminated if a condition was added
to allow a certain percentage of the building to extend into the setback. Felkner directed
Staff to prepare a draft indicative of same.
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C. Ethics Legislation
The ethics legislation was briefly discussed.
responded that the best policy is to "just say no."
8. OTHER BUSINESS
City Attorney Mike Dougherty
A. Consider Resolution Finding the Alternative Environmental High School
Development and Ice Arena Addition Consistent with the Overall City's Comprehensive
Plan and Eligible for Inclusion in TIF Master Development District.
John Gretz noted that this resolution is simply to enable the Economic Development
Authority to sell bonds to finance the projects indicated. Mike Dougherty noted that the
resolution itself simply places the property into the development district.
MOTION Miller moved to adopt the resolution finding the alternative
environmental high school development and ice arena addition consistent with the overall
City's comprehensive plan and eligible for inclusion in TIF Master Development District.
Gowling seconded and the motion carried 5 - 0.
9. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION Edgeton moved to adjourn. Blundetto seconded the motion. The
meeting was adjourned at 9:25 p.m.