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Meeting Location: Municipal Center
7100 147th Street West
Apple Valley, Minnesota 55124
July 19, 2018
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
INFORMAL MEETING TENTATIVE AGENDA
6:00 p.m.
1. Pickleball Discussion
• History of Issues
• Experiments to Reduce Noise Impacts from Pickleball Courts
• Ryan Skog, ESI Engineering Consultant
• How the Courts are Presently Used
• Introduction/Discussion Regarding Recommendations
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
REGULAR MEETING TENTATIVE AGENDA
7:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of the Agenda
3. Audience— 10 Minutes Total Time Limit— For Items Not on this Agenda
4. Approval of the May 2018 Minutes
5. Agenda Items
A. Pickleball Recommendations
6. Adjourn
10 minutes
NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS - Tentative:
Thursday, September 6, 2018 6:00 p.m. (Informal)
" " 7:00 p.m. (Regular)
5 minutes
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CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
May 3, 2018
Minutes of the May 3, 2018, Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee.
PRESENT: Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee Chair Brent Schulz; Secretary Josh
Gaftke; Committee Members Noel Hammill, Boyd Montgomery, and Jessica Montgomery;
Parks and Recreation Director Barry Bernstein; Council Member John Bergman; Community
Development Director Bruce Nordquist; Park Superintendent Mike Endres; Recreation
Manager Susan Muelken; Valleywood Golf Course Manager Jim Zinck; Arena Manager
Brian Christianson; Administrative Coordinator Dorene Perkins Morn; and 13 members of
the Pickleball public.
ABSENT: Matthew Hinrichs and Ben Van Gundy
ITEM 1. Call to Order
Chair Schulz called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Everyone took part in the Pledge of
Allegiance.
ITEM 2. Approval of Agenda
Director Bernstein requested the addition of Item A. 1. Cobblestone Lake Park
Interpretive Sign, moving Item A to A.2 Pickleball — court usage, adding Item F.1.
Athletic Field Usage Cost Recovery, and tabling Item B. 2040 Comprehensive Plan —
update.
MOTION: by B. Montgomery, seconded by Hammill, approving the agenda
with the addition of Item A. 1. Cobblestone Lake Park Interpretive Sign,
moving Item A to A.2 Pickleball — court usage, adding Item F.1. Athletic
Field Usage Cost Recovery, and tabling Item B. 2040 Comprehensive
Plan — update.
VOTE: Yes — 5, No — 0
ITEM 3. Audience — 10 Minutes Total Time Limit — For Items Not on the Agenda
No one stepped forward to speak.
ITEM 4. Approval of the March 2018, Minutes.
MOTION: by B. Montgomery, seconded by J. Montgomery, to approve the
March 1, 2018, meeting minutes as presented.
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VOTE: Yes — 5, No — 0
ITEM 5.A.1. Agenda Items — Cobblestone Lake Park Interpretive Sign
Community Development Director Nordquist introduced graphic representation of a
Traditions Development and Enebeck Construction proposed 4' x 8' interpretive sign to
recognized the private and public partnership that occurred in the development of
Cobblestone. The sign is to be located within Cobblestone Lake Park.
Committee discussion included;
Have a hard time putting marketing/advertising a park sign. This is not so much an
interpretive sign it's advertising. Suggest a tastefully written sign explaining who was
responsible for the fine work done. Too much marketing. All for recognition of the
partnership but can find a better way to display it, maybe put more "fun facts" instead of the
equipment on the sign. Location suggested in the southwest corner of the lake near trail
juncture.
MOTION: by Hammill, seconded by B. Montgomery, recommending the
southwest location near the path with a change of sign display so
as to become a true interpretive sign reflecting on the historical
change in the area rather than how it was changed.
VOTE: Yes — 5, No — 0
Assisting with the timeline, staff will work on the concept and email information to the
Committee for review/comments.
ITEM 5.A.2. Agenda Items — Pickleball — court usage
Issue before the Committee is the pickleball courts at Hayes Park. Director Bernstein
presented a brief history of the courts, their success to date, comments received from
residents and players, and opportunities for compromise (between players and park
neighbors).
Staff proposed limiting pickleball play to Monday -Friday 8:30 a.m. — 1:30 p.m. and 4:30
p.m. — 7:30 p.m., Saturdays 9:30 a.m. — 2:00 p.m., and Sundays 12:30,p.m. — 4:30 p.m.
Players may use the courts outside of the listed times using a noise reduction ball.
Installation of natural vegetation on the south side of the courts is on the project list.
Pickelball court lines have been painted on tennis courts at Redwood, Scott, and Greenleaf
parks. Hagemeister Park also has pickleball court lines on the sport court tennis courts.
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Construction of additional courts at Johnny Cake Ridge Park West is estimated at $180,000
to $200,000.
Committee comments included the (rule) sign is great, should have a "no play" time, have
noise reduction time posted, add locations of additional available courts, don't want to see
neighbors against pickleball players. The continuous sound that pickleball makes is different
than other sports. Can see issues with the later times of play. Evaluate as the season goes,
modify as needed.
Staff has investigated sound diffusion material that by company statement reduces sound
level by up to 50%. It's on the lines of a wind screen with sound deadening properties,
proposed for the south, east and west court fencing. Vines growing on the south side of the
Apple Valley Community Center and spruce trees help reduce the sound vibration off the
wall.
Pickleball player comments:
May Tice, Echo Way — Plays at Hayes. Usually play about two hours. Would like to extend
weekday hours tol:30 p.m. Like to stay in their group for play.
Jurgen Adam, Herald Circle — Pickleball has been exploding. Likes to play 12:00 to 3:00
p.m. Hours will restrict their play and will have to go someplace else. Other courts have a
higher net, they're wider, the alternate ball is another game, it's not the same. Hours
proposed would prohibit (his) group's play. Suggested prohibiting play or noise reduction
ball from 3:00 — 6:00 p.m. and opening courts 6:00 — 8:30 p.m.
Julia Thompson, Gossamer Way— Appreciate staff efforts to find harmony for players and
neighbors. The less rules the better. Concern is the number of neighbors that expressed
issues vs. a community of over sixty pickleball players. Do what you can to make it simple.
Maggie Jaden, Strese Lane — Neighbor and a player. Love the courts, plays the game, it's
just too close to my house. Feel like have to have respect for the neighbors, it's driving them
crazy. Caught in a pickle. Concerned about the weekend, encourages kids playing, make
sure there is time for kids to play.
Linda Goodwin, Garvin Brook Lane — Love pickleball thank you for putting in the great
courts. There are expert players using the courts, the rubber ball will not work for them, the
suggested hours have almost cut the play hours in half. Willing to compromise but asking
players to compromise more. Don't need the lights at night. Would like at least 8:30 p.m., at
least 2:00 p.m. Have young, old, new, expert players from Apple Valley that play here.
We're proud to say we're a club. Don't cut back so much that we go elsewhere. Want the
hours fair. Suggestion is weekdays 8:30 a.m. — 2:00 p.m., and 4:30 p.m. - 8:30 p.m. Don't
Apple Valley get behind the eight -ball, if you get the other courts it will help.
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John Bergman, Guthrie Avenue - Listening to the residents and neighbors on the south side.
Recommend removing "trespass for violation" from the rules. Once set, wants the hours to
go for the duration of the season so the Committee can evaluate. The noise wall with the
openings at the top and at the bottom wouldn't get to the 50% reduction of noise. Budget has
to be looked at. Other courts (at Johnny Cake Ridge Park West) can be discussed with the
budget. Hoping other cities will install pickleball courts. Suggested, natural landscaping on
the south side for sound barriers.
MOTION: by Hammill, seconded by B. Montgomery, recommending
pickleball court weekday hours 8:30 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. and 4:30
p.m. to 8:00 p.m., Saturdays 9:30 a.m. to 2:00 p.m., Sundays 12:30
p.m. to 4:30 p.m. Also remove text line from the sign "Players
who violate these court rules may be trespassed for up to one
year." Noise reduction balls are an option during non -regulation
hours.
VOTE: Yes — 5, No — 0
ITEM 5.B. Agenda Items — Quarry Point Field #4
Tabled
ITEM 5.C. Agenda Items — Kelley Park Redesign
Director Bernstein reminded the Committee of the 2016 WSB Kelley Park master plan
design process. Construction of apartment buildings have since changed the dynamics and
function of Kelley Park. The local Rotary Club has also proposed a clock donation for the
park. Staff is recommending re -assessment of Kelley Park and taking another shot at master
planning the park using Confluence, Inc. .
MOTION: by Hammill, seconded by B. Montgomery, recommending City
Council retain Confluence, Inc. to re -master plan Kelley Park and
to bring the Rotary clock tower into that design.
VOTE: Yes — 5, No — 0
ITEM 5. D. Agenda Items — Valleywood Food and Beverage Operation Plan
Golf Course Manager Zinck reported the City has entered into a food and beverage provider,
Pear One, Inc., dba Roasted Pear. They will provide daily menu items as well as catering
events and outings.
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ITEM 5. E. Agenda Items — Senior Center Food and Beverage Operation Plan
Recreation Manager Muelken noted staff investigated a preferred caterer program when the
Senior Center opened in 2008 but it was not enacted. Staff is again proposing a Request for
Proposal process to select preferred caterers for food and beverage service at the Senior
Center beginning in 2019. A process calendar was reviewed.
ITEM 5.F.1. Agenda Items — Athletic Field Usage Cost Recovery
Tabled
ITEM 5. F. Agenda Items — Division Updates
Golf Course Manager Zinck reported the golf course is open for the season. The course has
sold approx. 250 patron cards and 80 season passes since opening May 1, 2018.
The MN Golf Association's and PGA Youth on Course program provides opportunities for
youth to golf for $5 per $18-hole round or $3 per 9-hole round. MN Golf Association covers
the cost difference between what the youth pays and price of a round through their MN
license plate initiative.
Arena Manager Christianson reported the Sports Arena turned over to tennis courts March
19"', Hayes Park Arena is currently hosting a kids' consignment sale May 3rd — 61h
Upcoming events include the hockey summer training program, Learn -to -Skate program,
public skating hours, and LED lighting upgrades.
Parks Superintendent Endres noted park maintenance happening, including construction of
new park signage, equipment serviced and converted for the summer season, crews dealt
with the heavy April 14 snow storm, and are playing catch up on operations. May and June
upcoming task list was presented.
Recreation Manager Muelken presented the recreation update. The spring/summer combined
brochure has been well received. Apple Valley Seniors will be hosting their 2018 Showcase
May 171h. 99 teams started in the softball leagues and summer playground program
registrations have started. Pools will open June 8 h. Kelley Concert series starts June 15.
ITEM 6. Adjourn
There being no further business, the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting was
adjourned.
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MOTION: by B. Montgomery, seconded by Hammill, to adjourn the meeting
at 8:56 p.m.
VOTE: Yes — 5, No — 0
Respectfully Submitted,
Dorene Perkins Morm, Administrative Coordinator
Approved by the Apple Valley Parks
and Recreation Advisory Committee
on July 19, 2018.
Brent Schulz, Chair
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COMMITTEE MEETING DATE:
July 19, 2018
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SECTION:
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ITEM DESCRIPTION:
Pickleball Recommendations
STAFF CONTACT: DEPARTMENT/DIVISION:
Barry Bernstein, Director Parks and Recreation Department
Action Requested
Motion to approve recommendations addressing Apple Valley pickleball courts.
Summary
The presentation by Director of Parks and Recreation Bernstein is intended to further explain the
issues brought forward by some neighboring residents, who live on the southern border of Hayes
Park, closest to the pickleball courts.
Background
Since the development of the Hayes Park pickelball courts, some of neighboring residents to the
south have relayed concerns surrounding pickleball play/use. The discussion for the July 19`"
meeting is to further inform the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee of issues and further
attempts to satisfy both the neighbors and players.
Budget Impact (possible)
Natural barrier plantings
Sound reducing material
Additional courts
Attachments
Sound Study
Map of Courts and Homes
$ 8,500
$ 40,000
$200,000 (est.)
Desi engineering
June 14,2018
Mr. Barry Bernstein
City of Apple Valley
7100 147th St W
Apple Valley, MN 55124
Subject: Summary Report for
Pickleball Noise Survey
Hayes Park — Apple Valley, Minnesota
Dear Mr. Bernstein:
We understand the City of Apple Valley has received noise complaints from residents living on
the south side of pickleball courts at Hayes Park in Apple Valley, Minnesota. The complaints
were mostly related to the noise created from the pickleball paddles hitting the plastic balls.
ESI Engineering was asked to measure pickleball noise at the nearest residential property line
to the courts and compare the results to the State code requirements. The following is a
summary of our analysis.
Site Conditions
The pickleball courts, shown in Figure 1, are located 54 feet from the nearest residential
property lines. There are six total courts. We have been told the busiest time of day for court
usage is typically between 9:00 AM and 11:00 AM on weekdays. During this time period,
every court is usually in use with people waiting to play. Usage is lighter in the afternoon.
During the early morning and evening hours, the City requires the use of noise reducing balls.
Regular balls are allowed between the mid -morning and early -afternoon hours, including the
9:00 AM to 11:00 AM timeframe.
Structures I Vibration I Noise I Monitoring
ESI Engineering Inc. 7831 Glenroy Road Suite 430, Minneapolis, MN 55439
952,831.4646 1 esi-engineering.com
Mr. Barry Bernstein June 14, 2018
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Figure 1 — Aerial image of the Hayes Park pickleball courts, nearest residences and
measurement location.
Noise Requirements
Minnesota Rule 7030: Noise Pollution, prepared by the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency
(MPCA), has requirements for maximum allowable sound levels by receiving land use
evaluated at the point of the nearest receiver. Table 1 shows the Rule 7030 L501 and L10z
noise limits (in dBA') per noise area classification (NAC). NAC 1 is residential and
recreational, NAC 2 is commercial, and NAC 3 is industrial.
Table 1 — MPCA Code Requirements
Noise Area
Classification
Receiver
Type
Daytime (7AM -10PM)
Nighttime (10PM - 7AM)
L10
L50
L10
L50
1
Residential
65 dBA
60 dBA
1
55 dBA
50 dBA
2
Commercial
70 dBA
65 dBA
70 dBA
65 dBA
3
Industrial
80 dBA
75 dBA
80 dBA
75 dBA
Based on these requirements, the daytime pickleball activities should not have noise levels at
the residential receivers that exceed an L50 of 60 dBA and an L10 of 65 dBA.
' L50 is the sound level that Is exceeded 50% of the time during a measurement period.
' L10 is the sound level that is exceeded 10% of the time during a measurement period.
' dBA is the abbreviation for an A -weighted decibel measurement. A -weighting is a filtered decibel level that reflects the human
ear response to sounds of a low pressure level.
Mr. Barry Bernstein
City of Apple Valley
Measurement Results
June 14, 2018
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On June 7, 2018 between 9:45 AM and 10:45 AM, Mr. Ryan Skoug of ESI performed sound
level measurements at the residential property line location nearest the pickleball courts. As
shown in Figures 1 and 2, the sound level meter was placed mid -way between the sets of
courts. The 9:45 AM to 10:45 AM measurement period was selected because usage is
typically highest during this time of day. While measuring noise, all six courts were
continuously in use with other people waiting to play. The dominant noise sources were
pickleball players talking and the ball/paddle impacts. Other background noise sources were
birds and distant traffic.
Figure 2 — Photo of the sound level meter at the noise monitoring location.
Table 2 summarizes the noise measurement results, and measurement data is provided in
Attachment A. The results meet the State code requirements.
Mr. Barry Bernstein
City of Apple Valley
Table 2 — Pickleball Noise Measurement Results
June 14,2018
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Measurement Results,
Code Limit,
dBA
dBA
L50
L10
LSD
L10
Location
Time
Dominant source
1
9:45 AM to
Pickleball Noise
52
61
60
65
10:45 AM
Conclusions
ESI Engineering was asked to measure pickleball noise levels at the nearest residential
property line to the courts at Hayes Park in Apple Valley, Minnesota, and compare the results
to the State code requirements. The State requires noise levels at residential receivers to not
exceed an L50 of 60 dBA and an L10 of 65 dBA during daytime hours. A one hour long noise
measurement was performed on June 7, 2018 during a peak court usage period. The
measurement results were an L50 of 52 dBA and an L10 of 61 dBA, which meet the State
requirements.
We appreciate the opportunity to serve the needs of the City of Apple Valley and remain
available to assist in the resolution of these and any other matters. Please let us know if you
have any questions or need more information.
Sincerely,
Ryan koug,�cs/Oregon)
Consulting Engineer
ESI Engineering, Inc.
Attachments
Anthony J. Baxter, P.E. (MN and WI)
Principal
ESI Engineering, Inc.
File: P2462 City of Apple Valley - Summary Report for Hayes Park Pickleball Noise Survey, Jun 14, 2018 ver 1
rl�esi engineering
Acoustic Test Results
Project No:
P2462
Analyzer:
Larson Davis 831 s/n 3553
Project:
City of Apple Valley - Pickleball Noise
Preamplifier:
Larson Davis PRM831 s/n 029391
Location:
Apple Valley, MN
Microphone:
Larson Davis 377B20 s/n 137686
Engineer:
R.L. Skoug
Calibrator:
Bruel & Kjaer 4231 s/n 3009047
Last Calibrated:
February 20, 2018
Location:
South Residential Property Line Meteorology:
Temperature: 70 °F
Date:
6/7/2018
Wind Speed / Dir.:
3-7 MPH / E
Start Time:
9:44:57 AM
Humidity: 60%
End Time:
10,45:02 AM
Run Time:
3605.1 seconds
Calibration Check:
Calibration Frequency: 1 kHz
Initial Calibration:
93.9 dB
Final Calibration:
93.9 dB
Measurements: File N. 1: Pickteball Noise Measurement
Last Cal. Check:
617/18 @ 10:47 AM
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