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City of Apple 7100 147th Street West
Valley Apple Valley, Minnesota 55124
TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING TENTATIVE
AGENDA
September 12, 2018 - 7:00 P.M.
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Audience - 10 Minutes Total Time Limit - For Items NOT on this Agenda
4. Approval of Minutes of July 11, 2018 Regular Meeting
5. Regular Agenda Items:
A. Speed Concern at 8283 131st Street
B. Palomino Deer Crossing Signage Review
C. 140th and Granite Designated Right Turn Lane Request
D. Stop Sign Request at Pennock and 138th
E. Crosswalk Request at Pennock Avenue near Wallace Park
F. Driver Feedback Signs Requests and Deployment Schedule
G. MSA Traffic Count Updates
6. Informational Items
A. Other Traffic Concerns Communicated to the City:
1. Police
2. Public Works
A. Flashing Yellow Arrow Request at 140th and Garden View
B. Educational Issues
1. TZD Conference Update
7. Adjourn.
NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS:
Wednesday November 14, 2018 7:00 p.m. (Regular)
Welcome to the Apple Valley Traffic Safety Advisory Committee meeting. The Committee is a forum to hear citizen concerns
regarding traffic and parking on City streets, as well as pedestrian and bicycle safety issues. The Committee also evaluates
proposals for traffic control devices, signage, and striping and considers citywide traffic education and communication
programs. The Committee encourages residents to bring their concerns forward and appreciates your efforts to help make our
City a safer community. Specific traffic solutions may also have unintended and potentially dangerous consequences as there
are often engineering and liability issues involved with traffic controls and roadway designs to consider. When evaluating
resident concerns, the Committee follows a process that looks broadly at multiple possible solutions and utilizes the City's
engineering resources to help determine the most appropriate solution for identified problems: 1) The concern is received. 2)
Options are identified to address the concern. 3) Additional analysis of the options to determine engineering, legal liability, and
financial constraints or issues may be necessary. 4) A recommendation is made. We appreciate your participation in exploring
the most appropriate solution for the problem in your area.
Traffic Safety Advisory Committee
City of Apple Valley
July 11, 2018
7:00 p.m. Municipal Center
Minutes
1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chair Arthur Zimmerman.
Members Present: John Bermel, Linda Dolan, Charles Grawe, Fred Puente,
Matt Saam, Joe Shaw, Arthur Zimmerman
Members Absent:
Consultants/Alternates Present: Brandon Anderson, City Engineer, Ahmed
Omer, Engineer
Others Present: Lamont Rolfshues, Bill Swanstrom
2. Approval of Agenda
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The Engineer requested the removal of item 5 C regarding the Palomino
Speed study.
MOTION: Mr. Saam moved, second by Ms. Dolan to approve the agenda as
amended. Motion passed 7-0.
3. Audience Items
Mr. Swanstrom expressed concern that traffic is overwhelming the city and
causing a public health concern. He requested the creation of a separate
pedestrian safety advisory committee because the city is too auto-oriented. He
said he believes restructuring is necessary to handle pedestrian safety.
4. Approval of May 9, 2018 Minutes
MOTION: Mr. Grawe moved, second by Ms. Dolan, to approve the Minutes
of May 9, 2018. Motion passed 6-0. (Mr. Saam abstained.)
5A. 14025 1401h Ct Additional Cul-De-Sac Signage Review
Mr. Anderson reported that a resident complained about high number of
vehicles using the cul-de-sac as a turn-around. The resident believed that the
drivers must not know it is a cul-de-sac and are entering by error and
requested "dead end" signage at the mouth of the cul-de-sac.
5B. 14113 Garden View Court Additional Cul-De-Sac Signage Review
Mr. Anderson reported that a resident complained about high number of
vehicles using the cul-de-sac as a turn-around. The resident believed that the
drivers must not know it is a cul-de-sac and are entering by error and
requested "dead end" signage at the mouth of the cul-de-sac.
The Committee reviewed both cul-de-sacs and discussed possible reasons
would drive into the cul-de-sac. Some members suggested it is less likely that
drivers are unaware of the cul-de-sacs and more likely that they have a need to
turn around. Understanding the motivations for the need to make the turning
movements might lead to a better long-term solution. Other members
suggested that some signage could be added as a temporary measure.
MOTION: Ms. Dolan moved, second by Mr. Zimmerman, to recommend
installation of a rider style sign at the entrance to 1401h Court and installation
of a"dead end" sign at the entrance to Garden View Court. Motion passed 7-
0.
5C. Parkin in n Regents 2nd Neighborhood for Quarry Point Park Activities
Mr. Anderson reported complaints from residents in the areas west of Quarry
Point Park. Park users have been parking on the streets in the neighborhood.
This type of activity exists at parks around the City. The Committee held
brief discussion.
5D. Harmony Way Speed Concern and Warning Signage Request
Mr. Anderson reported concerns over a tight curve that causes difficulty for
visibility. The curve radius meets the criteria for an advisory sign. The
Committee discussed possible signage optics.
MOTION: Mr. Bermel moved, second by Mr. Zimmerman, to recommend
installation of appropriate signage. Motion passed 7-0.
5E. Driver Feedback Signs_ Requests and Deployment Schedule
Mr. Anderson said there is a lengthy list of neighborhoods requesting
temporary posting of the driver feedback signs to address speeding concerns.
He presented the current schedule for deployment. He noted that there is a
high rate of non-compliance with speed on 132nd Street near Johnny Cake
Ridge Road and an unusual number of vehicle trips occurring during late
hours. He noted higher rates of non-compliance on Pennock Avenue as well.
Mr. Swanstrom said he believes 8 of 10 cars in southbound traffic applied
their brakes when the advisory signs are in place. He believes that permanent
signage are warranted. The Committee discussed possible policies to allow
permanent signs under certain conditions, including in single directions of
traffic.
5F. Traffic Speed Concerns on 1601h Street
Mr. Anderson said the City has received concerns about speeds and noise
from Diamond Path to Garden View Drive. Mr. Rolfshues expressed
concerns over the use of engine brakes as vehicles approach Garden View
Drive.
5G. MSA Traffic Count Updates
Mr. Anderson said the City is updating its MSA traffic counts.
6A.Other Traffic Concerns Communicated to the City of Apple Valley
Police Concerns
Mr. Bermel reported concerns about speeds on Pilot Knob Road and Embry
Way.
Mr. Bermel recommended removal of vehicle noise enforcement signs as they
are not enforceable.
Public Works Concerns
Mr. Anderson said there are concerns about speeds on Gabella Street and
147Th Street.
Mr. Anderson said there continues to be one-way violations on Founders
Way and may require medians to prevent turning movements.
6B.Educational Issues and Grant Opportunities
Ms. Dolan mentioned the Toward Zero Deaths Minnesota conference will be
October 23rd and 24th.
7. Adjourn
MOTION: Mr. Bermel moved, second by Mr. Saam, to adjourn. Motion
passed 7 - 0. Meeting was adjourned at 8:57 p.m.
Traffic Safety Advisory Committee
TSAC
September 12, 2018
Regular Agenda Items:
A. Speed Concern at 8283 131st Street
B. Palomino Deer Crossing Signage Review
C. 140th and Granite Avenue Designated Right Turn Lane Request
D. Stop Sign Request at Pennock Avenue and 138th Street
E. Crosswalk Request at Pennock Avenue near Wallace Park
F. Driver Feedback Sign Requests and Deployment Schedule
H. MSA Traffic Count Updates
Informational Items:
Other Traffic Concerns Communicated to the City:
1. Police
2. Public Works
A. Flashing Yellow Arrow Request at 140th and Garden View
Educational Issues:
1. TZD Conference Update
A. Speed Concern at 8283 131st Street
8283 131st Street
McAndrews Road and
Hanover Avenue
Palomino and 131st
Street
131st Street looking South
131st Street looking North
131st Street looking South
131st Street looking North
A turn (W1-2R2) sign can be used with an advisory speed
of 30 mph or less.
B. Palomino Deer Crossing Signage Review
Palomino Drive Deer Crossing Signage Request
Palomino Drive Deer Crossing Signage Request
Section 2C.50 Non-Vehicular Warning Signs (W11-2, W11-3, W11-4, W11-6, W11-7, W11-9, and W11-16 through W11-
22)
Option:
01 Non-Vehicular Warning (W11-2, W11-3, W11-4, W11-6, W11-7, W11-9, and W11-16 through W11-22) signs (see Figure 2C-11)
may be used to alert road users in advance of locations where unexpected entries into the roadway might occur or where shared use
of the roadway by pedestrians, animals, or equestrians might occur.
Figure 2C-11 Non-Vehicular Warning Signs
Support:
02 These conflicts might be relatively confined, or might occur randomly over a segment of roadway
Section 2C.01 Function of Warning Signs
Support:
01 Warning signs call attention to unexpected conditions on or adjacent to a highway, street, or private roads open to public travel and to
situations that might not be readily apparent to road users. Warning signs alert road users to conditions that might call for a reduction of speed or
an action in the interest of safety and efficient traffic operations.
Section 2C.02 Application of Warning Signs
Standard:
01 The use of warning signs shall be based on an engineering study or on engineering judgment.
Guidance:
02 The use of warning signs should be kept to a minimum as the unnecessary use of warning signs tends to breed disrespect for all signs. In
situations where the condition or activity is seasonal or temporary, the warning sign should be removed or covered when the condition or activity
does not exist.
Option:
03 Consistent with the provisions of Chapter 2L, changeable message signs may be used to display a warning message.
Palomino Drive Deer Crossing Signage Request
From 5-11 -16 TSAC Minutes:
The Committee’s consensus is that there are deer that live in pockets of many
parts of the City, crossing many different roads, and there is not an identified
herd issue that is unique to this instance. Because implementing such signs
would set a precedent that would be used throughout the community, the
Committee agreed that there would need to be evidence of abnormally high
numbers of vehicle-deer crashes or other unique problems associated with the
area to justify signs.
C. 140th Street and Granite Avenue Designated Right Turn Lane
Request
140th Street and Granite Avenue Designated Right Turn Lane Request
REQUEST FOR RIGHT
TURN LANE LOCATION
140th Street
Cedar AvenuePennock Avenue142nd StreetGranite Avenue
140th Street and Granite Avenue Designated Right Turn
Lane Request
Traffic volumes at 140th Street and Granite Avenue do not demand the need for
a right turn lane for eastbound traffic. Typical right turn lane justification is 100
vehicles per day making right turns. Only 40-50 per day are expected with full
development. However, removing right turning vehicles from the mainline traffic
using a designated turn lane could improve the safety of this traffic movement.
D. Stop Sign Request at Pennock and 138th Street
STOP Sign Request on Pennock at 138th Street
REQUEST FOR STOP
SIGN ON PENNOCK AT
138TH STREET
140th Street Cedar AvenuePennock Avenue138th Street TH 77Wallace Park
138th and Pennock
Pennock approaching 138th looking north
Pennock looking south to 138th
138th approaching Pennock
Functional Classification System Map
140th Street and Granite Avenue Designated Right Turn
Lane Request
Currently there is only one traffic control device (STOP Sign from Pennock
Court) at the “intersection” of Pennock Avenue and 138th Street. The 2015
Minnesota State Statutes on right-of-way indicate at an uncontrolled approach
to a T-shaped intersections, the driver required to turn shall yield to the cross
traffic. The Minnesota Manual on Uniform Traffic Control (MnMUTCD)
designates that the use of yield or stop signs should be used under one of three
conditions: traffic volume over 2,000 vehicles per day, where normal right-of-
way rules do not apply, or where crashes indicate a failure to observe right-of-
way rules. The right-of-way rule conditions is likely met, but Pennock
intersection is signed as a thru street with advisory curve signs and NOT
functioning as a convention T intersection. The traffic volumes LIKELY do not
warrant all-way-stop control. Additional analysis is required.
E. Crosswalk Request at Pennock Avenue near Wallace Park
138th and Pennock
Pennock approaching 138th looking north
169.21 PEDESTRIAN.
Subdivision 1.Obey traffic-control signals.
Pedestrians shall be subject to traffic-control signals at intersections as heretofore declared in this chapter, but at all other places
pedestrians shall be accorded the privileges and shall be subject to the restrictions stated in this section and section 169.22.
Subd. 2.Rights in absence of signal.
(a) Where traffic-control signals are not in place or in operation, the driver of a vehicle shall stop to yield the right-of -way to a pedestrian
crossing the roadway within a marked crosswalk or at an intersection with no marked crosswalk. The driver must remain stopped until the
pedestrian has passed the lane in which the vehicle is stopped. No pedestrian shall suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk
or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close that it is impossible for the driver to yield. This provision shall not apply under the conditions
as otherwise provided in this subdivision.
(b) When any vehicle is stopped at a marked crosswalk or at an intersection with no marked crosswalk to permit a pedestrian to cross the
roadway, the driver of any other vehicle approaching from the rear shall not overtake and pass the stopped vehicle.
(c) It is unlawful for any person to drive a motor vehicle through a column of school children crossing a street or highway or past a member of
a school safety patrol or adult crossing guard, while the member of the school safety patrol or adult crossing guard is directing the movement
of children across a street or highway and while the school safety patrol member or adult crossing guard is holding an official signal in the
stop position. A peace officer may arrest the driver of a motor vehicle if the peace officer has probable cause to believe that the driver has
operated the vehicle in violation of this paragraph within the past four hours.
(d) A person who violates this subdivision is guilty of a misdemeanor. A person who violates this subdivision a second or subsequent time
within one year of a previous conviction under this subdivision is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.
Subd. 3.Crossing between intersections.
(a) Every pedestrian crossing a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or at an intersection with no marked crosswalk
shall yield the right-of -way to all vehicles upon the roadway.
(b) Any pedestrian crossing a roadway at a point where a pedestrian tunnel or overhead pedestrian crossing has been provided shall yield
the right-of -way to all vehicles upon the roadway.
(c) Between adjacent intersections at which traffic-control signals are in operation pedestrians shall not cross at any place except in a marked
crosswalk.
(d) Notwithstanding the other provisions of this section every driver of a vehicle shall (1) exercise due care to avoid colliding with any bicycle
or pedestrian upon any roadway and (2) give an audible signal when necessary and exercise proper precaution upon observing any child or
any obviously confused or incapacitated person upon a roadway
2016 Minnesota Statutes
Minnesota State Statute defines that crosswalks exist at intersections, whether
marked or unmarked, and provides for pedestrian and motorist responsibilities.
•The following guidelines shall be considered when evaluating a request for
installation of a cross walk.
•Minimum Traffic Volume
•Street Type and Speed
•Pedestrian Volumes
•Traffic Gaps
•Crosswalk Spacing
•Mid-Block Crosswalks
•Crosswalk Control
•Traffic Signals
•Roundabouts
City of Apple Valley Crosswalk Policy
F. Driver Feedback Sign Requests and Deployment Schedule
Driver Feedback Signs Requests
132nd Street West of Johnny Cake Ridge Rd. (completed)
Garden View North of 140th (completed)
Whitney Dr. near Southview Elementary (completed)
Walnut Lane (To Be Deployed 9/17/18)
Dodd Blvd at Eagle Bay Dr (completed)
142nd St (To Be Deployed 9/17/18)
Palomino (To Be Deployed 9/17/18)
Pennock Avenue (Completed –To Be Re-Deployed when available)
TO BE DEPLOYED
Walnut Lane
142nd St
Palomino
Pennock
G. MSA Traffic Count Update
MSA Traffic Counting Locations
56/68 MSA Routes (74%)
completed currently
Regular Agenda Items:
A. Speed Concern at 8283 131st Street
B. Palomino Deer Crossing Signage Review
C. 140th and Granite Avenue Designated Right Turn Lane Request
D. Stop Sign Request at Pennock Avenue and 138th Street
E. Crosswalk Request at Pennock Avenue near Wallace Park
F. Driver Feedback Sign Requests and Deployment Schedule
H. MSA Traffic Count Updates
Informational Items:
Other Traffic Concerns Communicated to the City:
1. Police
2. Public Works
A. Flashing Yellow Arrow Request at 140th and Garden View
Educational Issues:
1. TZD Conference Update
Flashing Yellow Arrow Request at 140th and Garden View
140th and Galaxie Intersection
140th and Galaxie Intersection