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HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/19/2018 CITY OF APPLE VALLEY PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE July 19,2018 Minutes of the July 19,2018, Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee. PRESENT: Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee Chair Brent Schulz; Committee Members Noel Hammill, Matthew Hinrichs, and Jessica Montgomery; City Council Member John Bergman; Director Barry Bernstein; Park Superintendent Mike Endres; Recreation Manager Susan Muelken; Administrative Coordinator Dorene Perkins Monn; ESI Engineering, Inc., Consulting Engineer Ryan Skoug; and 10 members of the Pickleball public. ABSENT: Boyd Montgomery, Josh Gaffke and Ben Van Gundy ITEM 1. Call to Order Chair Schulz called the meeting to order at 7:22 p.m. Everyone took part in the Pledge of Allegiance. ITEM 2. Approval of Agenda MOTION: by J. Montgomery, seconded by Hinrichs, approving the agenda as presented. VOTE: Yes-4, No-0 ITEM 3. Audience— 10 Minutes Total Time Limit—For Items Not on the Agenda No one stepped forward to speak. ITEM 4. Approval of the May 2018, Minutes. MOTION: by Hammill, seconded by J. Montgomery, to approve the May 3, 2018, meeting minutes as presented. VOTE: Yes—4, No—0 ITEM 5.A. Agenda Items—Pickleball Recommendations Comments: - 1of4 - CITY OF APPLE VALLEY PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE July 19,2018 Linda Goodwin— 13015 Garvin Brook Lane. When you changed the hours at the last meeting Committee stated they would leave it until the end of the season and re-evaluate next year. Now trying to change the hours again. Going back on what was said. Committee Chair stated that, also at that meeting, a number of pickleball players said they would be a self-policing organization and that has not happened. Situation is such that the homeowners, I think,have a realistic and legitimate complaint. Everyone has the right to a quiet enjoyment of their home. At the same time, these homes backed up to a public space when they bought the homes and it's still a public space. Understand the pickleball courts are new and we have to deal with that. You(residents) are never going to have an area that's like backing up to a wooded area. Adjoining cities to Apple Valley are interested in pickleball and a number of them are already constructing courts and that should relieve some of the pressure on the Apple Valley courts. Other courts in the city are not being well utilized. Question is pressure on the courts at the community center. Hopefully the reduction of hours and better policing by the pickleball players will satisfy the homeowners. Rick Vondemkamp— 13062 Everest Avenue. Resident for over forty years. Doesn't play when it's hot due to health issues. Comes to Apple Valley because there are people to play pickleball. Committee Chair reminded him there are other courts available in the city. Discussion followed on how the pickleball group communicates informally amongst themselves and by the Parks and Recreation Department through collected email addresses when participants sign-in to play. Roger Eklund— 13309 Ellice Court. Taxes paid for these courts and you're asking me to go elsewhere. Not familiar with Greenleaf. Director Bernstein. Greenleaf tennis courts were done less than 7 years ago at a cost of approximately $130,000. In addition to these, Redwood and Scott have dual lined courts for tennis and pickleball. Committee member Hammill has concerns about pickleball issue, that we have citizens angry over a sport. Encouraged the group to create an organizational structure and together to come to a consensus. Believes there is a solution, as Apple Valley residents,to be found. Anger is not good for the community. Encouraged everyone to look at the big picture. Charlie Colin— 137 North Surrey Trail. Players can monitor language as much as possible when they are there,but need the Community Center to help monitor noise/language. Staff response: Emails have been sent to those on the Recreation Department's list when there has been an issue reported. There are big groups that play,but individuals can come in to play one time and they don't know the rules because they haven't been in on any of the discussions. They may be the ones swearing and yelling. - 2of4 - CITY OF APPLE VALLEY PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE July 19, 2018 Linda Goodwin—The group can police more if they know if the complaints are in the morning, in the afternoon, etc. Acknowledged the group is loud but very seldom if ever hears a swear word. Committee member Hinrich—The major things the Committee is taking into consideration is the overall noise and play during off-posted hours. Director Bernstein suggested before any investment, staff thoroughly look at sound attenuation material. ESI Engineering's report regarding the sound study performed June 7, 2018, was presented in the Informal meeting. Another submittal as part of their original project submittal is a sound attenuation study. Maggie Tjaden— 181 Strese Lane. Pickleball player, loves the game, doesn't like the noise when not playing. Other places to play include the Y and LifeTime. Problem yesterday and at other times, a dog on the court. MOTION: by Hammill, seconded by Hinrichs, recommending reducing pickleball court weekday hours to 9:00 a.m. — 1:30 p.m. and 4:30 p.m. —7:30 p.m., weekend hours remain the same(Saturdays 9:30 a.m. to 2:00 p.m., and Sundays 12:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m.) No weekday play 1:30 p.m.—4:30 p.m. or after 7:30 p.m. DISCUSSION: Committee member J. Montgomery—Recognized it is a passionate issue on both sides. Don't want to take away pickleball use all together without going through the year without seeing how we can make compromises between residents and pickleball players. There isn't going to be a perfect solution. Committee welcomes the feedback. It's going to go to City Council for them to discuss further. Recommends everyone listen to others and be respectful. Committee is committed to exploring other options, whether that be a sound reduction barrier or courts at other locations. VOTE: Yes—4, No—0 Committee Chair—recommendation will go to City Council, but become effective when a sign is erected. Committee comments—Need to know what it would cost to lower the decibel level. Wesley Dayus— 169 Strese Lane. Stated he believes there is a conflict of interest on the Council. Would like to see the pickleball courts moved and utilized in a different way if possible. - 3of4 - CITY OF APPLE VALLEY PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE July 19,2018 MOTION: by Hinrichs, seconded by J. Montgomery, recommending staff go ahead with the sound attenuation study(as provided by ESI Engineering, Inc.)to commence immediately. VOTE: Yes—4, No—0 Committee Chair—With these two motions the Committee is laying the groundwork toward a permanent solution,but taken into context that the pickleball players have to do a better job of policing and organizing themselves and distributing their play amongst the other courts in the city. ITEM 6. Adjourn There being no further business, the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting was adjourned. MOTION: by J. Montgomery, seconded by Hammill, to adjourn the meeting at 8:03 p.m. VOTE: Yes—4, No—0 spectfully Submitted, r, Dorene Perkins Monn, Administrative Coordinator Approved by the Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee Brent Schulz, Chair on September 6, 2018. / f/ -4of4-