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HomeMy WebLinkAbout06/16/1993PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES City of Apple Valley June 16, 1993 1. CALL TO ORDER The Planning Commission meeting of June 16, 1993 was called to order at 7:35 p.m. in the City Council Chambers. Members Present: Chairman Alan Felkner, Karen Edgeton, Marcia Gowling, Len Miller, Frank Blundetto, Jeannine Churchill and Jim Norris. Staff Present: Rick Kelly, Meg McMonigal, Scott Hickok and Dennis Miranowski. Others Present: See the sign -in sheet. 2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA MOTION: Marcia Gowling moved, seconded by Karen Edgeton, to approve the agenda as submitted. Motion carried unanimously. 3. APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 2, 1993 MINUTES MOTION: Marcia Gowling moved, seconded by Karen Edgeton, to approve the minutes of June 2, 1993 as submitted. The motion passed 6 - 0, with 1 abstention. 4. CONSENT AGENDA There were no consent items. 5. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. Capital Improvements Plan 1994 -2000 LOCATION Citywide PETITIONER City of Apple Valley (PC93- 021 -P) City Administrator Tom Melena presented information to the Planning Commission regarding the budgeting and CIP process. He noted that the City does 7 -year budgeting, staffing and capital improvements planning projections. The City does this in order to identify trends in advance and make adjustments before they become painful to make. He 1 noted the city budget is revenue diversified, and many of the funds are carried through user funds. City taxes have stayed fairly level for the last four years. He also noted that the city's bond rating had been increased from A to A -1 within the last year. Commissioner Edgeton asked about the process for budgeting and capital improvement planning. Administrator Melena explained that long -range budgeting begins in the middle of March; capital improvement planning begins in March and April; on June 1 annual budgeting begins. In August the City Council reviews the budget and adopts a preliminary budget in mid September. By December a final budget is approved. Commissioner Norris asked if the athletic complex is a political issue or a necessity. He was told that there have been need studies. Commissioner Edgeton noted that Rosemount has a new arena, and Lakeville has raised money toward building one. She wondered if there was still a need for an additional arena in Apple Valley. Commissioner Miller asked if there is a business plan for the ice arena. He was told that there is a business plan. Commissioner Edgeton asked if the arena is self supporting. The response was that it is in operations. Commissioner Norris asked how new costs would be allocated, and if governments are paying to use the arena, golf, etc. He was told that governments do pay to use those facilities. Commissioner Blundetto asked if a plan for a city hall in 1998 at $4 million is locked in stone. Administrator Melena noted that the final years of a capital improvement plan are considered a dream sheet. He noted that the city hall is an item for discussion and no decisions have been made. MOTION Len Miller moved, seconded by Karen Edgeton, to approve the Capital Improvements Plan as being consistent with the overall Comprehensive Plan. Motion carried 7 - 0. 6. LAND/USE ITEMS A. Conoco Car Wash Conditional Use Permit LOCATION 7575 - 145th Street West PETITIONER Conoco, Inc. (PC93- 029 -C) Associate Planner Scott Hickok first reviewed the request by Conoco and noted that Conoco will agree to the conditions recommended by Staff -- they will agree to signs as allowed under the City sign code, or will come back for sign variances; they will either accept the city's storm water design solution or present one of theirs. Hickok also noted that the storm water pond in the Pennock Shores area is designed to hold water from the surrounding area. Commissioner Miller indicated that he is not comfortable with the two lanes in back and thinks there will not be enough room. Associate Planner Hickok noted that the owner of the building will have to be responsible for traffic control. Commissioner Miller thought they may be losing 11 parking spaces on the east side of the building. 2 Hickok stated there were 7 additional spaces on the site with the car wash, counting all the spaces on the east side. Commissioner Miler asked who is going to control the movement in the back of the building. Mike Defranco of Conoco indicated there will be security cameras. He doesn't think cars will stack up all around the back of the building. Commissioner Blundetto asked if the doors in the back swing out. He wondered if employees go out the back to the dumpster, it may be a dangerous situation. Commissioner Miller asked if there could be mirrors put on the northeast comer. Defranco indicated that this could be accomplished. Commissioner Edgeton asked Hickok to go over the sign issue. Hickok responded that the request was for 97 square feet, far more than is allowed by the City's sign code. Commissioner Edgeton noted that she doesn't feel comfortable without knowing what directional signage will be present, and is also concerned about the opening doors and striping. Chairman FeEmer asked the petitioner if they could bring back the proposal at the next meeting with further information on traffic circulation. Mike Defranco from Conoco indicated that they will comply in any way they can. Commissioners Blundetto and Miller indicated they are concerned about the safety of people coming out the back doors. Chairman Felkner asked the petitioner to come back the next meeting with the issues of signage, doors and traffic flow addressed. 7. DISCUSSION ITEMS A. Sketch Plan for Redevelopment of Apple Valley Ford LOCATION Northeast corner of Pennock Avenue & C.R. #42 PETITIONER Doran Management Company, Inc. City Planner Rick Kelley presented a report on the potential uses of the Apple Valley Ford site. He noted that although zoning is General Business, the Comprehensive Plan Guide does designate this area for Retail Business. Because this is an isolated general business district, it has been planned for some time to be changed to retail business when the dealership relocates. Kelley explained the surrounding uses and noted that the proposal is to divide this parcel into five lots. The proposed uses include three fast food stores, one photography store, and an auto service store. He noted the traffic would increase dramatically, but the roads in the area do have the capacity for these uses. He also noted that the developer plans to have just one pylon sign noting all the uses on this site. Commissioner Edgeton asked about the frontage road and increased traffic near the frontage road in front of McDonalds. She wondered if there could be a right turn only off of the frontage road. Commissioner Miller noted that the drive- through for McDonalds is often busy and believes there are complicated traffic patterns in the area. He asked if there are any other studies for use of the property. Kelly Doran, the developer, noted that this is a sketch review only. He is looking at modifications to the plan. He said he agrees that the thoroughfare east and west needs to 3 look, feel and act like a public street. He does not have contracts yet with the potential users, but all do want to proceed. He wants to have all the buildings architecturally compatible. They are looking at the city's brick to tie into the city design standards. They also will look at red poles for their lighting and a pylon sign of red brick with wrought iron. He noted the various uses would have a reciprocal easement agreement for maintenance and restricting the uses on the site. All users are significant companies willing to make substantial investments. In regard to the frontage road, he noted the developer cannot control something outside of its plat. He does not think Apple Valley has more fast food than other communities. Advantages include the concentration of those fast food sites. Commissioner Gowling suggested that the private streets in the Granada Shopping Center are narrow and perhaps these could be a little wider. She also suggested there be a double turn lane out to Pennock going both directions. Commissioner Edgeton asked if the buildings will have four sides that look like fronts. The response was affirmative. Commissioner Norris asked if there will be multiple drive - throughs and how they could orient the buildings to pedestrians. Kelly Doran noted that they consciously staggered the buildings for visual access to C.R. #42. Commissioner Miller asked if parking is allowed on Granada. He was told that parking is currently allowed. Miller noted he would like to see parking on Granada eliminated. Doran indicated there could be a medium in Granada by the frontage road near McDonalds to allow for right turn only. It was noted on the site plan that the parking is in excess of the code. Chairman Felkner noted that traffic is an issue that Staff should look at very closely. Commissioner Norris indicated that the varied treatment of buildings would break up the fast food road look along C.R. #42. The commissioners asked what uses are allowed across Pennock on the Winkler site. The Commission noted that the plan looks good and recommended the developer work with Staff to refine the site plan and traffic circulation plan. 8. OTHER BUSINESS - None - 9. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m. 2