HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/03/1993CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
November 3, 1993
1. CALL TO ORDER
The City of Apple Valley Planning Commission Meeting of November 3, 1993, was
called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Chairman Alan Felkner in the Council Chambers of the
Apple Valley City Hall.
The agenda was approved as written with the exception of the addition by Staff of
Item 7B, Sketch Plan Review of Fischer Sand & Gravel Operation.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 20, 1993
The minutes of October 20, 1993 were approved as written.
4. CONSENT AGENDA
None -
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Huntington Ridge Garden Homes
Tabled until additional information is received.
6. LAND USE /ACTION ITEMS
A. Sideyard Setback Variance for Carport at 1066 Lowell Drive
At the request of the applicant, this item was tabled until further information could
be obtained regarding alternative designs for a carport or garage.
B. Frontyard Setback Variance for Porch Roof at 161 Spruce Drive
Chairman Felkner introduced Item 6B, and City Planner Rick Kelley presented
information regarding the variance request. Kelley stated that this is a standard R -3 (11,000
square foot minimum lot size residential site). This is the predominant lot size for
residential sites in Apple Valley. The legal description for this item is Lot 25, Block 2,
Apple Valley 11th Addition. The proposal is to cover or build a roof over a front porch.
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The code requires 30 feet between the front property line and the building setback. This
request would allow a 20 foot setback as opposed to the required 30 feet.
Kelley stated the owner would like to put a roof over the existing deck. Kelley stated
that an earlier variance request was requested and approved on an adjacent residential site.
That earlier variance was also to allow a reduced frontyard setback. Although there was
no physical hardship, the variance was reviewed and approved based on perceived impacts
on surrounding residential. Kelley concluded by stating that the impacts of this addition
may not be great, but there is no physical hardship on this site that would substantiate a
variance.
Commissioner Edgeton asked if there was a hardship on the house south of this
residence. Rick Kelley responded there was not.
Commissioner Churchill asked if the addition would be screened by landscape or
open to the street, and asked for clarification of right -of -way width from curb to private
property. Kelley responded that the home is set back approximately 45 feet from the curb.
Churchill then asked if this is a roof addition only. Mr. and Mrs. Larson were present, and
asked the Chair of the Commission for permission to distribute photos that would help
answer questions, and also to show an example of a similar addition to the one that they are
proposing.
Commissioner Blundetto asked for clarification of where the addition would be on
the site.
Commissioner Churchill asked when the home was built. The owners responded
approximately 1963.
Chairman Felkner asked if the petitioner has considered whether or not they have
room for a garage addition as they had mentioned in their conversation. The petitioner
responded that they would have room for approximately 1 -1/2 stalls without a variance on
the garage.
Marcia Gowling asked for further clarification on this garage addition. A general
discussion ensued.
MOTION: Churchill moved, seconded by Blundetto, to approve the front yard
setback variance for a porch roof at 161 Spruce Drive. The Commission felt that this was
not aesthetically offensive and is consistent with the addition on an adjacent site. The
motion passed 6 - 0.
Commissioner Edgeton asked if Staff would have a special work session with the
Planning Commission regarding variances. Staff agreed to set up a future work session on
this topic.
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6C. Conditional Use Permit for Outdoor Sales /Storage for Construction Materials
between 145th and 146th Street, East of Bishop's Storehouse and Al's Cabinets.
Lamperts Lumber and Fischer Development Co. II are the applicants for this request.
City Planner Rick Kelley explained the expansion of both 146th Street and 145th Street, and
the expansion of the outdoor storage requested by the petitioner. Kelley reminded the
Commission that this item had been reviewed earlier, and at the request of the petitioner
was tabled at the last Planning Commission Meeting due to a conflict in meeting schedules.
Kelley continued by stating that there is a barbed wire topped chain link fence in this
proposal. This fence is at the minimum setback distance from the right -of -way. The
landscaping proposal has been illustrated to show that as the landscape elements mature,
the chain link fence with the barbed top will be screened from the public right -of -way and
adjacent sites. Kelley concluded by stating that the petitioner and staff have worked to
reach an agreement. This agreement would allow the petitioner to have public assistance
through special assessments on the installation of the hard surface and curb and gutter
which is required to surround the outdoor storage area. Special assessments or public funds
are available to assist with mitigation of environmental problems -- in this case, sealing off
materials that may leach into the storm sewer system. This is an important aspect of the
hard surface, and public funds would be available to complete this project. Staff
recommends approval of the proposal for outdoor sales /storage of construction materials.
Commissioner Blundetto asked if we do this assessment process regularly. Mike
Dougherty responded that we have used this assessment procedure on other projects, and
it is appropriate in certain situations. There is a statutory allowance that allows cities to
participate in an improvement such as this. The act of going on private property is not
typical, but when providing abatement for a nuisance, the improvement activity is
appropriate.
Blundetto then asked Engineer Keith Gordon to explain the public improvement and
what exactly is involved in this case. Keith Gordon explained that the proposed surface has
crushed concrete and has already been observed leaching into the streets and down slopes
which will eventually lead to the storm sewer. This surface, however, is appropriate once
sealed, and can provide a base for a new surface of bituminous. The addition of curbing,
landscaping and resetting grades will eliminate the danger to the storm sewer. Gordon
continued by stating that the proposal and city - assisted improvements would include a 4 inch
bituminous surface which would allow heavy forklifts to make sharp turns as required to
load and unload material in the Lamperts operation. This 4 inch bituminous surface will
be surrounded by a standard B612 curb and gutter at the perimeter. Storm sewer will also
be installed as part of this project, as well as hydrants to be installed at the perimeter of this
storage area by request of the Apple Valley City Fire Marshall. These hydrants will provide
access points for water in the event of a fire within the storage area.
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John Gretz stated that the street improvements would not be charged to Lamperts.
Both 145th and 146th Street will be extended at the same time this public improvement
installation occurs, and those street improvements will be billed to the owner /developer of
the surrounding area.
Commissioner Blundetto asked for clarification of the elevation of the new proposal.
Blundetto stated that earlier discussion centered around severe slopes from the storage
surface to the street. Keith Gordon responded that erosion will be very slight with the
installation of the storm sewer, curb and gutter hard surface and landscaping surrounding
the perimeter. The City does not anticipate erosion towards the street or on the slopes.
Gordon concluded by stating the slope is a 6 or 7:1 slope and the City allows as much as
a 3:1 slope, which is still considered mowable and is much steeper.
Chairman Felkner asked if the proposal would be assessed in an "amount not to
exceed', and if the City has structured this on 15 years at 7 %, will the City be losing if the
rates go up. John Gretz explained that the City feels comfortable with the margins on this
project.
Commissioner Edgeton asked if, by approving this proposal, we would be removing
all variances. Kelley responded that no variances would be required as proposed.
MOTION. Churchill recommended approval as stipulated by Staff. Blundetto
seconded the motion. The motion carried 6 - 0. '
6D. Utility Corridor and Substation
The Dakota Electric /Cooperative Power proposal continues to be tabled at the
request of Dakota Electric until they have completely evaluated all alternatives listed in the
report prepared by the city consultant.
7. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Sketch Plan for Lot Rezoning/Split at 13140 - 132nd Street West
Rick Kelley introduced and discussed a sketch plan for a lot split at 13140 132nd
Street West. Kelley stated that the property is located in the White Oak Ridge
Development, north of Long Lake. As it exists, the area consists of large lot, single family
sites (40,000 square feet lot size minimum, or an R -1 zoning classification). Kelley
explained that historically the larger lot residential provided for homes with their own septic
systems, and that a more typical urban lot develops once utilities have been installed.
Utilities for this development were installed recently, and it is anticipated that the acreage
east of this proposed lot split will become an R -3 single family development. Kelley then
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explained the sketch proposed property line intended to divide the Brabec site into two
residential sites.
Currently the Brabec home exists on one lot. This home would continue to remain on a
smaller lot and a new lot would be created east of the existing home. Kelley concluded that
the alternatives are as follows:
1) The Commission could recommend leaving the property R -1 without allowing
further subdivision.
2) The Commission could leave the property R -1 and grant a variance to the lot
size to allow this subdivision.
3) The Commission could rezone the property to R -2 with an 18,000 square foot
minimum lot size.
4) The Commission could rezone the property to an R -3 with an 11,000 square
foot minimum lot size.
Again, Kelley emphasized the future development at no certain date to the east, and
stated that there is a likelihood that this could become an R -3, 11,000 square foot minimum
lot size single family development.
Chairman Fellmer asked about a past request to subdivide a lot on Farquar Lake.
Kelley responded by stating rather than rezoning to allow the subdivision, the Planning
Commission opted to allow a smaller than standard residential lot. That subdivision was
approved.
Commissioner Churchill asked what would keep this property owner from subdividing
the property further into five residential lots as opposed to two. The petitioner Bill Brabec
stated that they have no desire to subdivide the property in a configuration that would
include more than two lots. Brabec continued by stating that there is natural vegetation on
this site which already provides a division between the existing home site and the location
of a future home if the lot were to be subdivided. The Brabec's would like to keep those
natural features, and would not want to eliminate those to further subdivide the parcel.
Commissioner Gowling asked if the Brabec's had discussed the proposal with their
neighbors. Mrs. Brabec responded that they had not. Bill Brabec stated that he had spoken
to a neighbor who liked the idea.
Commissioner Churchill asked if the lots south of this proposal meet the 40,000
square foot minimum. Kelley responded that they do.
Commissioner Gowling asked for clarification of the roadway configuration once the
land to the east is developed. Rick Kelley explained the possible future street connections
to this area.
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Commissioner Miller stated that he would approve a change to an R -2, 18,000 square
foot minimum lot size.
A general discussion ensued about R -1, R -2 and R -3 lot sizes. A vote was then
taken showing Len Miller, Alan Felkner, Frank Blundetto, Marcia Gowling, and Karen
Edgeton all in agreement that R -2 seemed most appropriate.
Rick Kelley then stated that the next step would be for the petitioner to meet with
Staff and to discuss a rezoning request to R -2.
7B. Sketch Plan Review of Fischer Sand & Gravel Area
John Gretz gave a brief presentation and explained the activity of the council and
consultants who have studied the future development of the area north, west and south of
our Central Maintenance Facilities. Gretz continued by stating that there are three
proposals that will be coming forward for development of these areas. Gretz used a map
that was prepared by Urban Planning and Design and SEH Traffic and Planning Consultants
to explain the future road alignments and also potential future land uses in given segments
of the acreage. Gretz also explained the color coding: green, blue and yellow for different
street classifications, and the signalization of certain intersections. Gretz stated that 145th
would jog down to line up with 147th to the east. This jog would be requited because of
the elevation of the pipelines in this region. Gretz concluded by stating that three
developers, Joe Miller Homes, Centex Homes, and Arcon Development, have been working
with staff with preliminary layouts of the development areas north and south of 140th, and
formal proposals should be available in the near future.
Commissioner Edgeton asked if a road is actually going through a building as
illustrated on the street layout map. Staff responded that this street alignment has been
discussed.
John Gretz explained the need for signals and also the possibility of a 3 -way
intersection or a road alignment that would allow a slight jog in 147th Street to continue
south of the existing industrial buildings along Galaxie Avenue.
Commissioner Edgeton agreed in general with the street alignment layout, but felt
that this is an area of concern.
Commissioner Blundetto asked for clarification of how the pipeline affected the
decision for a 147th Street alignment. Keith Gordon stated that the Tank Farm is higher
in elevation than the proposed roadway, and that a 20 -30 foot increase in a short distance
would be required in order to make the transition from the Tank Farm site to 147th Street.
This drop would be too severe without modification to the actual elevation of the pipeline.
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Commissioner Miller asked why not raise the road.
Commissioner Blundetto asked about the cost of the change in elevation. Staff
responded that this grading modification would cost approximately $350,000.
Commissioner Edgeton asked for clarification of where the Ring Route would
actually go. Staff explained the possibilities.
Commissioner Blundetto asked about what we could do in this early stage of planning
to help attract a sit -down restaurant. John Gretz explained that the Staff has talked to
interested restaurant businesses and continue to do what we can to entice them to develop
in our community. Gretz continued by stating that currently we are being investigated by
many hotel developers, and Staff believes that once a hotel is developed in the community,
a restaurant will follow.
A general discussion ensued.
8. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Resignation of James R. Norris
A resignation notice of James Norris was received.
MOTION: Churchill moved, seconded by Gowling, to recommend to the City
Council to make every effort to advertise and decide on a Planning Commissioner to fill the
vacancy created by the Norris resignation.
The Planning Commission asked that for future meetings they be provided with a full
set of the minutes from the previous City Council meetings.
Commissioner Edgeton asked that a resolution of appreciation be drafted by staff in
recognition of Commissioner Norris's contribution to the City.
MOTION: Edgeton moved, seconded by Gowling, to have staff draft a resolution.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:35 p.m.