HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/18/1992PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
City of Apple Valley
November 18, 1992
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Alan Felkner called the Planning Commission meeting of November 18, 1992 to order at 7:35
p.m. in the City Council Chambers.
Members Present- Chairman Alan Felkner, Frank Blundetto, Marcia Gowling, and Karen
Edgeton.
Members Absent: Eugene Kitzman, Jim Norris, and Jeannine Churchill.
Staff Present: Richard Kelley, Lon Anne, and Dennis Welsch.
Others Present- Terry Wensmann, Terry Maurer, Bill Maurer, Walter Santyzr, and Rick
Dineen.
2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
With the addition of Item 8B, a discussion of the Planning Commission Holiday Party, the agenda was
approved as recommended.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 4, 1992
The minutes of the November 4, 1992 meeting were approved with the correction to the motion within
Item 6 which should have been a 5 - 0 - 1 vote. The minutes were approved unanimously with the correction.
4. CONSENT AGENDA (One motion sends items needing no discussion on to the City Council with staff
recommendations.)
None -
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
None
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6. LAND USE /ACTION ITEMS
A.
Gardenview Place - Preliminary Plat for 88 Townhouse Units
LOCATION:
East Side of Gardenview Drive at 143rd Street West
PETITIONER
Wensmann Homes, Inc. (PC92- 088 -SB)
STAFF REPORT:
Richard Kelley, dated November 18, 1992
City Planner Richard Kelley provided a background report regarding the request for approval for a
preliminary plat site plan approval and building permit authorization for a townhouse development to be located
on the east side of Gardenview Drive at 143rd Street. The development as proposed would contain 88 3 -level
townhouse dwelling units offered for sale as owner /occupant units.
Kelley reviewed the preliminary plat and the new grading and landscape plans. In addition, he explained
an architectural sketch of the buildings. He noted that the grading plan will require revisions in order to comply
with the wishes of the Commission to retain as much of the wood lot as possible.
The Staff recommended approval of the preliminary plat and the site plan and building permit
authorization subject to Staff review and approval of a landscape plan and grading plan by the Staff.
Terry Wensmann clarified the architectural plans for the north side of the units which will abut 142nd
Street. He noted that additional windows will be placed on the back of the building and the units will be
staggered to create a different architectural appearance. He also stated there was no problem with realigning
the roadway along Gardenview Drive as per the Staff recommendation.
MOTTONh Member Gowling moved, seconded by Member Blundetto, to recommend approval of the
preliminary plat as per the Staff recommendations. The motion carried 4 - 0.
MOTION: Member Gowling moved, seconded by Member Blundetto, to recommend approval of the
site plan and building permit authorization subject to the landscaping plan and grading plan meeting the Staffs
criteria and the building elevations along 142nd Street being completed to allow for windows and a staggered
appearance on the north side of the building and subject to the realignment of the road system as it enters
Gardenview Drive. The motion carried 4 - 0.
613. Conditional Use Permit for Reverse Vending Machine for Beverage Can
Recycling
LOCATION: Southeast Comer of Cedar Avenue and 153rd Street West by Cub Foods
PETITIONER: Super Valu, Inc. and ABC Recycling (PC92- 090 -C)
STAFF REPORT: Scott Hickok, dated November 4, 1992
Community Development Director Dennis Welsch provided a background report in which he reviewed
the request for a conditional use permit and the background report on other such recycling operations within
the metropolitan area. The Staff recommended a number of alternative sites for a recycling operation such as
the north side of the lot and the east side of the lot. In both cases, applicant Walter Santyrz stated that he was
concerned about the location being difficult to serve with electric power.
Member Blundetto explained problems at the Eagan Cub Food recycling site, especially the cleanliness
and inefficiencies of the machine. A general discussion ensued regarding the various sites around the
metropolitan area. Member Gowling asked for clarification regarding the heights of the various recycling
operations; Member Edgeton asked for clarification regarding sinking concrete at the Eagan site; Member
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Blundetto asked for further clarification regarding the years of use and Chairman Felkner asked whether Cub
approves of the use on the site.
Rick Deneen, representing Cub Foods Apple Valley, stated that Cub Foods considers a recycling
operation a service to the community.
Member Gowling asked whether reporting tonnage to the City would be difficult. Mr. Santyzr said that
he was willing to report such tonnage to the City for its own recycling efforts.
Blundetto asked for clarification regarding the revocation of a conditional use permit should this project
not meet the City expectations. City Planner Kelley explained the revocation process.
Member Gowling asked if additional consideration had been given to the west side of the parking lot.
Chairman Felkner asked the Staff why they were opposed to the original proposed site. Dennis Welsch
responded that the original site has problems with parking, cleanliness, insects and bees, drainage, and pedestrian
access to the main entry area.
Chairman Felkner stated that another meeting may be necessary to address all these issues.
Member Edgeton stated that she preferred a site in the parking lot instead of adjacent to the buildings
and that there maybe a significant traffic sight line problem along the east side of the property. Dennis Welsch
concurred and noted that generally these operations are considered an industrial use and are placed in a
industrial zone. That is one of the reasons why this is a difficult issue in Apple Valley.
Rick Deneen of Cub Foods asked.the Commission to remove the original proposal from further
consideration until a meeting can be established with Mr. Santyzr, Rick Deneen, and Scott Hickok to review
alternate sites.
Chairman Felkner stated that this will continue to be on the agenda for further discussion at the next
meeting. No further discussion occurred. No action was taken.
9. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Highpoint - Sketch Plan Review for 23 Single Family Lot Development on Southwest Corner
of Cedar Avenue and McAndrews Road. Staff report by Richard Kelley, dated November 18, 1992-
City Planner Richard Kelley provided a background report in which he reviewed a sketch plan of
proposed development for 23 single family lots at the southwest corner of Cedar Avenue and McAndrews Road.
He noted that the current Comprehensive Plan designates the site for medium density multi -family residential
uses of 6 -12 units per acre. He also noted that there is no clarification at this time concerning what designation
should be given for zoning on the site should it be rezoned for single family detached development. Finally, he
noted that it would be difficult to provide single family lots on this site and still maintain the natural
environment. A general discussion ensued with Planning Commission members and Mr. Maurer.
Member Gowling asked for further clarification on what would happen to the Adelman parcel to the
south.
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Member Edgeton asked for clarification regarding the multi -family designation. City Planner Kelley
responded that the multi -family sites are designated and scattered throughout the community and are placed near
to major roadway systems. Originally, the City's concept for development of this site was a clustered multi - family
project on the portion of the site nearest the roadways without disturbing the major trees, soils, and slopes on
the steeper portion of the site.
Terry Maurer responded that the site is a very unique site. Historically, the topography of the mound
has been known as a landmark in the community. He stated that in order to save the hill, it may be best used
for single family detached development rather than multi - family development. A major problem is accessibility
of sewer and water from the southeast to the northwest. He stated that after all development was done, 41%
of the trees would remain untouched. However, the top of the hill is heavily wooded and most of the trees at
the top of the hill would have to be removed. If the grade of the street could be increased through the issuance
of a variance, fewer trees would have to be removed and the site would become more compatible.
Mr. Maurer also noted that the Adelman property and owners to the south have been communicated
with regarding street access through their property on the east side of the site. The conversations to this date
have been positive. He stated that the lots are high and the housing costs would be $200 - 350,000. The density
of the development would be 1.7 units per acre, which is the same density as the Oaks I.
Member Blundetto asked if the soil from the top of the hill could be moved to the lower areas to create
more development areas. The consensus of the meeting was that this would reduce the amount of vegetation
which could be preserved.
Mr. Maurer stated that the 10% grade instead of an 8% required grade would help reduce the amount
of cuts necessary at the top of the hill.
The Planning Commission consensus was to make it a single family site compatible with the adjacent
single family areas and to begin the process of rezoning.
8. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Master Development District
Community Development Director Dennis Welsch provided a background report in which he reviewed
the City's master development district and master development plan for use of Economic Development Authority
funding and programs. Currently, the Staff is attempting to update the boundaries of the Master Development
District in order to provide for future options regarding the use of the Economic Development Authority and
further commercial or residential rehabilitation assistance.
Two maps were illustrated, one in which the Master Development District (red, yellow, blue) as it
currently exists and a second as the amended Master Development District map (green) would look should this
be approved by the Council and Economic Development Authority.
A general discussion ensued with Planning Commission Members. The Commission understood the
issues and expressed no opposition to the proposal.
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B. Holiday Party
The annual Planning Commission Party will be held December 2, 1992 after the Planning Commission
meeting on that evening. The location will be at Member Gowling's house.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.