HomeMy WebLinkAbout05/01/1991PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
May 1, 1991
1. CALL TO ORDER
The May 1, 1991 meeting of the Apple Valley Planning
Commission was called to order at 7:34 p.m.
Members Present: Chairman Felkner, Members Karen Edgeton,
Marcia Gowling, Eugene Kitzman, and Joe
Nordlund.
Members Absent: Jeannine Churchill.
Staff Present: Dennis Welsch, Chelle Benson, Lon Aune,
and Meg McMonigal.
Others Present: See the sign -in sheet.
2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
The agenda was approved as submitted.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF APRIL 17, 1991
A motion was made by Marcia Gowling, seconded by Joe Nordlund,
to approve the minutes. The motion 4 - 0 with one
(Kitzman) . '
4. CONSENT AGENDA (One motion sends items needing no discussion
on to the City Council with the staff recommendations.)
None.
S. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Apple Ponds 3rd Addition
LOCATION: Northern Corner of County Road #46 and Garrett
Path
PETITIONER: Winkler Development (PC91- 014 -SF)
STAFF REPORT: May 1, 1991 by Intern Chelle Benson
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Chelle Benson presented a background report in which she
indicated that the plat has been changed from what was previously
approved. Instead of running all the roads east to west, the
southern most road has been eliminated and one east -west and two
north -south cul -de -sacs have been added. The only issues with the
plat are that a five (5) foot sidewalk connection is recommended
between Galaxie Avenue and the proposed park and that a five (5)
foot Galaxie Avenue sidewalk the length of the plat, needs to be
part of the improvement project. The petitioner, Bart Winkler, and
the engineer, Wayne Tauer, were present. Mr. Tauer explained the
reasons for the changes of the development. He indicated that the
plat was changed in order to allow deeper lots along Galaxie Avenue
and County Road 46. He also indicated that the streets are now
more curvilinear and that the average lot size is now a little bit
bigger. Mr. Tauer further indicated that the developer opposes the
sidewalk from Galaxie Avenue to the park as he feels it is not
necessary and that children will be encouraged to cross Galaxie
Avenue. He also indicated that they would like to change some of
the landscaping that is required by the planned development
ordinance. Chairman Felkner requested that the developer review
the landscape plan with the City Forester. No one was present from
the public to speak. Chairman Felkner closed the hearing. This
item will be on the May 15, 1991 Planning Commission agenda.
B. Southport Centre Planned Development
LOCATION: Southeast Corner of Cedar Avenue and County
Road #42
PETITIONER: Ryan Construction, Inc. (PC91- 015 -Z)
STAFF REPORT: May 1, 1991 by Community Development Director
Dennis Welsch.
Dennis Welsch presented the staff report indicating that the
issue is whether a drive -thru is permitted on this site or not.
Because this is a multi- tenant building, the Staff and the City
Attorney interpret the code to read that the drive -thru is not a
permitted use. He indicated that drive -thrus on multi- tenant
buildings create conflicts between vehicles and pedestrians because
the drive -thru requires driving entirely around the building. He
also noted that downtown design guidelines indicate that building
should be oriented toward the street.
Vince Driessen from Ryan Construction was present. He said
that there are other areas in town and in the metro area where
drive -thrus are attached to multi- tenant buildings. Examples
include: Walgreen's that was approved with a drive -thru. He said
that traffic congestion would be internal on the private road. He
said that the retailers do not object to a drive -thru. He indicated
the drive -thru window will be screened by the building itself.
Member Gowling asked about the traffic pattern and said that it re-
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quires going around the entire building. This is not true on TCF
and other banks.
She also asked how they propose to handle the internal
congestion. Mr. Driessen said they would not have any noon -time
deliveries, and because there is enough stacking space, stacking
will not occur around the main parking lot.
Commissioner Nordlund asked how many tenants will be in the
building. Mr. Driessen indicated there will be four tenant spaces.
Mr. Nordlund asked if they could put the drive -thru in the back,
which would require pavement only around three sides of the
building. Mr. Driessen indicated that it could be put in the back
but the drive -thru window would then be more visible. Commissioner
Kitzman said that he thought it was a complicated design for a
building. He asked about signs to direct traffic and thought that
it would be confusing and that signs would distract aesthetically.
Mr. Driessen read excerpts from the letter from City Attorney Jim
Sheldon. Commissioner Edgeton asked why a multi- tenant would be
more desirable than a single tenant in this building. Mr. Driessen
answered that the advantage is getting a national retailer and more
businesses. Member Marcia Gowling asked about size comparisons and
was told that a fast food restaurant is usually about 3500 square
feet. This building is 4000 square feet..
Chairman Felkner asked Dennis Welsch about the status of the
restaurant study. Dennis Welsch indicated that the first phase of
the restaurant study was approved and implemented. It included
phone and mail contact of over 250 restaurants. Many restaurants
have contacted the City indicating an interest. They are directed
to 18 sites in the downtown area, including this site. Mr.
Driessen indicated that Ryan Construction is working with a Class
I restaurant, but is not certain that a deal will be completed.
Because Ryan has a signed lease with Wendy's, they must go through
with this request as a good faith effort.
Gene Pedersen, 12910 Hamlet, described other restaurants
seeking space in Apple Valley.
Gerald Benack, 5387 Emerald Way, suggested closing off one of
the driveways near the front of the store. He was told that it
lines up with the driveway in the Target parking lot and is
necessary.
The public hearing was closed. No action was taken.
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C. Electric Substations /Transmission Lines zoning
Ordinance Amendment
LOCATION: City -wide
PETITIONER: City of Apple Valley (PC91- 017 -0)
STAFF REPORT: Dennis Welsch
Chairman Felkner opened the public hearing. Community
Development Director Dennis Welsch presented the proposed
amendments to the text of the zoning code. They state that such
facilities should be located in a institutional zone, with a
conditional use permit. They must be adjacent to a utility
corridor. There are two new definitions in the ordinance for
"utility corridor" and "utility building ". The utility corridors
must be consistent with Comprehensive Plan. New standards are
established for utility buildings and burial of cable.
Mr. Eldon Johnson, representing Dakota Electric Association,
indicated that D.E.A. staff have had fruitful meetings with the
City Staff. He said that the issue was raised when Dakota Electric
approached the City on a new substation. The new substation is
proposed to be located on a wooded site in the side of a hill. He
thinks they can cut into the hill to make it less noticeable, with
no adverse impact on the residents. The lines would follow the new
County Road 38 and would not be buried.
Apple Valley currently only has one substation. Johnson said
utility corridors are a good idea. The Fischer substation was
built in 1971 and the feeder lines that run along Galaxie Avenue
were also built in 1971. Dakota Electric would like to be a part
of planning the corridors and because stations must be located
where they can support each other. Dakota Electric is opposed to
the City requiring existing overhead services to be buried. This
can be very costly. If other public road or private development is
occurring concurrently, then it may make sense to bury them.
Member Nordlund questioned how much of a subsidy Apple Valley
gives to the more rural communities. Nordlund indicated that
revenues are higher in Apple Valley because it is a higher density
area and are more cost efficiencies. Mr Johnson indicated that he
thinks that instead of an ordinance, the City should adopt more
flexible guidelines. He also indicated that in Section Al -17(b)
lines cannot always be buried. Masonry walls around a station are
not practical because of the heat the stations give off. He also
said that barbed wire is the industry standard and is required
around the stations.
Member Nordlund asked about the maintenance of underground
lines. Dakota Electric representatives said that underground lines
are currently being replaced every 14 years, whereas overhead lines
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are being replaced every 45 years. Mr. Arleigh Thorberg of Dakota
Electric Association Board indicated that he thinks that they could
work out the concerns and revisions to the ordinance. Chairman
Felkner said that he hopes that the Staff can work with the utility
companies to resolve the issues and return at a future meeting.
Mr. Gene Nelson from Central Telephone Company also spoke. He
indicated that while Centel supports Dakota Electric's points, they
also support Apple Valley efforts to ensure orderly planning
efforts. He said that aesthetics are considered when siting
facilities. He welcomes the opportunity to discuss the issues with
other utilities and City Staff.
The public hearing was closed. No action was taken.
D. Conditional Use Permit - Amendments to
Standards
LOCATION: City -wide
PETITIONER: City of Apple Valley
STAFF REPORT: May 1, 1991 by Community Development Director
Dennis Welsch
Community Development Director Dennis Welsch presented the
report dated May 1, 1991 indicating that text amendments to the
zoning code, specifying standards for issuing a conditional use
permit. He said that the City has been using such standards, but
the City Attorney thinks these standards should be listed in the
Code. There are seven standards as noted in the report. No one
was present to speak at the public hearing, the public hearing was
closed.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Nordlund, and seconded by
Member Edgeton, to recommend approval of the zoning text change as
modified by Staff including an eight stipulation or standard that
indicates that the other city standards or those attached to the
permit in addition to the 7 listed in the ordinance would still
apply.. The motion passed P' 5 - 0.
E. Capital Improvements Plan Chapter of the City's
Comprehensive Plan
LOCATION: City -wide
PETITIONER: City of Apple Valley (PC91- 019 -P)
STAFF REPORT: May 1, 1991 by Associate Planner Meg McMonigal
Chairman Felkner opened the public hearing and asked Associate
Planner McMonigal to present the staff report. McMonigal indicated
the purpose of the public hearing was to receive comments on the
Capital Improvements Plan for 1992 -1996. She described the
purposes and definitions within the plan. The Planning
Commission's role is to review the improvements, and determine
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whether they are consistent with the comprehensive plan. The
C.I.P. ultimately becomes a chapter of the Comprehensive Plan.
There are 87 requests over five year period. The closest years are
the most realistic; 1996 and beyond are considered long term
projects. McMonigal reviewed the proposed items each year and the
assumptions by each department. The Staff recommended that the CIP
be approved as consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Robert
Berg questioned what are the priorities in the plan. Staff
responded that the priorities are set when the City Council makes
budgeting decisions each year.
Chairman Felkner closed the public hearing. A motion was made
by Member Gowling, seconded by Member Edgeton, to recommend
approval of the CIP as being consistent with the Comprehensive
Plan. The motion was carried-k5-0.
6. LAND USE /ACTION ITEMS
A. Midas Muffler /Jiffy Lube Restaurant -
Comprehensive Plan Amendment from "LB" to SC",
Rezoning for Amendment to Planned Development
No. 244, Subzone #1, Preliminary Plat and
Conditional Use Permit
LOCATION: SE Quadrant of the Intersection of C.R. #42 and
Gleason Avenue
PETITIONER: Midway National Bank of St. Paul (PC91- 010 -BSZ)
STAFF REPORT: May 1, 1991 by Community Development Director
Dennis Welsch
Community Development Director Dennis Welsch presented the
background report. He recommended that the Commission should not
focus on the site design issues but rather on the rezoning issues.
The Staff recommends that auto services should be located on the
peripher)�k of the downtown area - a yl__ =' _ __' _" -- * , The
zoning of this retail site should not be changed to include auto
services.
Gene Pederson, the developer, indicated that a restaurant that
is committed to the site is "The Grainery" from Grand Forks, North
Dakota. He also indicated that the doors on the auto services will
be a non -glare anodized type.
Member Edgeton asked if they have looked at other sites in the
community. Dick Strand from Midas Muffler indicated that he thinks
location is vital to the business and is not willing to locate at
another site.
Chairman Felkner indicated that he has spoken to many of the
people here. He believes that, although the businesses would be
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good for Apple Valley, this may not be the right spot. He said the
parcel is one of the prime undeveloped real estate in Apple Valley
and thinks that it will develop very soon. Gene Pederson indicated
that this is a development that is "one -in- the - hand" and is worthy
of the City's approval.
Chairman Felkner said the building design is appropriate, but
does not think it is an appropriate use on the site. He doesn't
think the best use of this property is for auto repair. Dick
Stranik indicated that this is a difficult site to develop. Ed
Brunkhorst said that the idea of the ring route is to have services
close.
John Anderson, representing Jiffy Lube, indicated that he will
locate on that site or not in Apple Valley at all. He indicated
that times are changing and this is a service economy.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Gowling, seconded by
Member Felkner, to recommend denial of the rezoning and other
affiliated requests because the use is not consistent with the
comprehensive land use guide plan and the existing planned unit
development. The motion passed 3 - 2. This item will be sent to
the City Council on May 9, 1991.
Chairman Felkner indicated that he would like to comment on
the way this project was pursued by the proposers. Planning
Commissioners received several calls from the people on this
project. Felkner indicated that he objects to the proposers making
comments indicating that the Staff may be changing its'
recommendation and also to comments that the Commissioners will be
voting a certain way. He feels that the Commissioners will make up
their minds at the meeting and feels these techniques are not fair
to the other Commissioners.
Mr. Dick Stranik responded that he did say that the Staff was
more responsive than before, but he did not say they were changing
their recommendation. He also did say that "there is support for
the project" among the Planning Commissioners.
B. Building Permit Authorization for Centel
LOCATION: 132nd Street and Galaxie NE Corner
PETITIONER: Central Telephone Company (PC91- 016 -BV)
STAFF REPORT: May 1, 1991 by Associate Planner Meg McMonigal
Associate Planner McMonigal presented the staff report
describing Centel's proposal for a small 400 s.f. building that
will contain a switching station on the corner of Galaxie Avenue
and 132nd Street. It will be a brick building. The staff
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recommends adding some relief to the brick on the building and
landscaping along the south side towards 132nd Street. A
representative from Centel, David Frame, indicated that Centel
could accommodate those two requests.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Gowling, seconded by
Member Nordlund, to approve the building permit authorization for
a Centel Switching Station subject to the two conditions
recommended by staff. The motion passed unanimously.
7. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Concord Property
May 15, 1991 - Dennis Welsch
Dennis Welsch presented a verbal report indicating that the
Staff would continue studying some of the items and will be working
with the property owners on uses which would be more compatible to
the site and adjoining properties. He indicated that at this time
there are no specific answers or recommendations.
Mr. Robert Berg, 14441 Emerald Path, complimented Dennis
Welsch for his efforts on this property. He indicated that there
had been a lot of animosity with the people that live in the area.
He suggested that a meeting be held with the neighbors to discuss
the future land uses. Dennis Welsch agreed that that would be a
good idea. A meeting will be held with the consultants and
property owners invited.
Mr. Earl Brookes from "Diamond Path Clusters" agreed that
there was animosity and indicated that he would like to be
contacted for a meeting, also.
B. Airport Issues
Dennis Welsch indicated that he thought the airport meeting
went very well and that the Planning Commission on their
willingness to hold such a meeting. A general discussion ensued on
what direction the Planning Commission should take. It was agreed
that at the next meeting of May 15, 1991, some time would be
reserved for further discussion from the public on the item.
C. Wensmann Sketch Plan
Pilot Knob Road between Essex Avenue /Embry Path (to the
north) and 144th Street (to the south)
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Associate Planner McMonigal presented the report and Wensmann
proposal. The Commission indicated that they thought the site
could be designed more creatively, with less -over all coverage of
the site. A staged or phased plan with apartments, townhouses, and
more open space was preferred. They recommended that Staff work
with the Wensmanns to redesign the project.
8. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Resolution Congratulating Richard Carlson
The Resolution congratulating and thanking former Member
Richard Carlson was signed.
B. Receive Draft Amendments - Mobile Home Park Ordinance
Dennis Welsch distributed the draft ordinance amendments to
the Mobile Home Park Code and indicated that they are making
progress with the owners on record keeping and procedures. The
Planning Commission consensus was to continue to improve the
ordinance.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 11:05 p.m.