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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
FEBRUARY 21, 1990
1. CALL TO ORDER
The February 21, 1990 meeting of the Apple Valley Planning Commission
was called to order by Chairman Robert Erickson at 7:32 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers of the City of Apple Valley City Hall.
Members Present: Chairman Erickson, Members Carlson, Gowling,
Weldon, Felkner, Sterling, and Kleckner.
Staff Present: Richard Kelley, Meg McMonigal, Scott Hickok,
Linda Brinkhaus, Kurt Chatfield, Deborah
Asselanis, Dennis Welsch, and Keith Gordon.
Other Present: See the sign -in sheet.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Gowling, to amend the agenda to include Item 6B (Hyland Shores Sign
Variance PC90- 006 -V) to the consent agenda. The motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Felkner, seconded by Member
Sterling, to approve the agenda as amended. The motion carried
unanimously.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 7, 1990 MEETING
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Gowling, to approve the minutes of the February 7, 1990 meeting. The
motion carried 5 - 0, with 2 members abstaining (Kleckner and Sterling).
4. CONSENT AGENDA (One motion sends items needing no discussion on to
the City Council with staff recommendations.)
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Sterling, seconded by Member
Weldon, to recommend approval of a sign variance for Hyland Shores
Development proposed by Scott Johnson PC90 -006 -V located at Highland
Avenue and 160th Street as per the Staff recommendation. The motion
carried unanimously.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 21, 1990
Page 2
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Robert Erickson opened the public hearing section of the
Planning Commission meeting and requested Staff to provide background
information related to the first public hearing case, the Render rezoning
and preliminary plat.
A. Render Development - Rezoning from "A ", Agriculture to
"R -3 ", Single Family and Preliminary Plat
LOCATION: Johnny Cake Ridge Road, South of Highway #77
PETITIONER: Render Development, Inc. (PC90- 009 -PZ)
STAFF REPORT: February 21, 1990 by Associate Planner Meg McMonigal
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal provided a background report
explaining a rezoning and preliminary plat request by Render Development,
Inc. for an 8.28 acre parcel of land adjacent to Johnny Cake Ridge Road
and Finch Way. She described the proposal for 23 lots and the extension
of roads and pathways through the project. McMonigal noted that an issue
to be resolved is the access onto Johnny Cake Ridge Road. The adjacent
property to the north, owned by Christ Church, was required to dedicate a
100 foot long by 30 foot wide road access to be used as a joint road onto
Johnny Cake Ridge Road. McMonigal also noted that the grading plan has
not been updated to accurately depict the existing and proposed grades.
She recommended that the grading plan be updated.
Chairman Erickson asked for clarification regarding the distances
between the proposed new road and the church driveway. Staff responded
that the distance would be approximately 150 feet. City Planner Richard
Kelley explained the City's policy of separating entrances onto community
collector streets.
Members Carlson and Kleckner led a general discussion regarding the
access locations to the project and suggested that one common access in
coordination with the church would be preferable. Member Kleckner
suggested that a bubble or cul -de -sac along the new proposed road at the
southeast corner of the project may be an acceptable way to provide
additional lots.
Jim Render of Render Development, 5120 Edina Industrial Blvd., Edina,
Minnesota, stated that there will be 23 lots in this proposal. The homes
to be built on the lots will cost between $150,000 and $160,000. He
stated that he strongly prefers a single entrance for the plat and asks
the Commission to consider why a shared access with the church would
create a problem since the church only uses an access on Sunday when other
traffic flows are much lighter. Render noted that only 40% of the parking
for the church will be built in the first phase and this too will reduce
the amount of traffic created on Johnny Cake Ridge Road.
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February 21, 1990
Page 3
Bill Maurer of Probe Engineering, representing Render Development,
explained to the Commission that the engineers had looked at redesigning
the subdivision to include a bubble or a cul -de -sac at the southeast
corner, but lost at least one lot. He also noted that there would be no
stacking distance available for a street which curved into the church
property. He suggested that it may be better to allow the church to stack
within their own parking lot and enter Johnny Cake Ridge Road through a
private driveway.
Greg Zeno, 6105 W. 130th Street, recommended to the Planning
Commission the use of cul -de -sac or bubble in the southeast corner of the
project because it would reduce the tracked appearance of the development
and would be a more creative solution. He discussed the accesses off of
Johnny Cake Ridge Road and concurred with the Planning Commission that the
fewer accesses onto Johnny Cake Ridge Road at this point, the better.
City Engineer Keith Gordon stated that the utilities are close to the
site, but that some existing streets will have to be dug up and repaired
in order to provide utility connections, in particular he identified Finch
and 130th Streets.
Mr. Render noted that the grading plan will be updated in the very
near future and submitted to the Staff and Commission for review.
Member Sterling said that this situation may be similar to the Grace
Lutheran Church entrances onto Pennock Avenue and adjacent to Jonathan
Drive. Keith Gordon responded that there are two accesses from Grace
Lutheran Church, but the northern access is too close to Country Road 42.
The southern access, adjacent to or close by Jonathan Drive, creates no
problem.
Greg Zeno asked for clarification regarding the stoplight or stop
sign configuration that will be installed at the intersection of Highway
77 and Johnny Cake Ridge Road. City Planner Richard Kelley responded that
the intersection will be designed for a stoplight, but initially there
will be stop sign installed.
There were no further comments from the public. Chairman Erickson
closed the public hearing.
B. Coady South - Comprehensive Plan Amendment from "MD",
Medium Density to "LD ", Low Density, and Rezoning from
"R -1" to "M -3A"
LOCATION: Southwest Corner of Cedar Avenue and Zoo Road
PETITIONER: City of Apple Valley (PC89- 040 -ZP)
STAFF REPORT: February 21, 1990 by Associate Planner Meg McMonigal
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal summarized the zoning consistency
case noting that the comprehensive plan and the zoning needed to be
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February 21, 1990
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brought into consistency. She noted that the zoning allows for large,
single - family lots, while the comprehensive plan designates the area for
medium density, residential of 6 to 12 units per acre. The staff
recommendation noted that the site is low and poorly served by access to
collector streets. Any traffic generated will have to use 132nd Street.
Staff recommended that the land use density designated by the
comprehensive plan be designed from "MD" to "LD" (low density, multi-
family) and that the zoning be changed to "M -3A" for multi- residences.
McMonigal noted that another type of use appropriate for the site would be
institutional uses, such as churches. She explained that the "M -3" pro-
posed zoning would generate approximately 560 vehicle trips per day.
Chairman Robert Erickson opened the public hearing. Chairman
Erickson read a letter dated February 21, 1990 into the record.
Mr. Coady noted that other than the contents of the aforementioned
letter, there were no additional comments necessary. Chairman Erickson
asked for clarification on the noise standards mentioned in the letter.
Associate Planner McMonigal noted that Cedar Avenue is a State Trunk
Highway exempt from the noise standards sited in the letter. Chairman
Erickson noted that the property owner, William Coady, invited the
Planning Commission to meet on March 5th and /or March 6th on the site to
hear and see the problems regarding noise and site lines. Commission
members were to contact Coady to set up a time to meet him there.
Chairman Erickson asked Mr. Coady to show how traffic access would be
handled if a proposed limited business use were approved on the site.
Coady noted that a limited business use would probably be a smaller office
building. Coady at this moment has no plans available to illustrate the
office building.
Mr. Coady stated that he felt the noise standards do apply to this
site and that he had talked with the PCA regarding this situation in the
last few days. He stated that the site is not marketable at this time for
single - family homeowners and that if multi - family housing were pursued,
the site would become a slum area with need of government assistance
providing only for low income families.
Chairman Erickson noted that the roads and access to the site create
prohibitions for many types of housing and asked Mr. Coady to clarify.
Coady noted that no housing would be marketable on this site currently. A
general discussion of the access to this site, which is located at the
southeast corner of this site ensued.
Coady noted he had received no interest from churches regarding the
use of this site or the zoning of this site for institutional purposes.
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February 21, 1990
Page 5
Chairman Erickson directed the Staff to seek an opinion from the City
Attorney's office regarding the applicability of the noise standards as
stated by Mr. Coady. Chairman Erickson asked the Staff to determine the
number of trips that would be generated by a limited business office use.
Associate Planner McMonigal noted that it would be approximately 15 trips
per 1,000 square feet of space.
Member Kleckner stated that multi - family uses may be appropriate on
this site if properly designed. He also noted that access to the site may
create problems for limited business because rental of a building without
an immediately visible access is very difficult.
A general discussion of the use of highway corridor standards to
reduce noise and visual impacts of the highway on this site ensued.
Kelley noted that such standards may increase the cost by as little as 5 %.
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal noted that the comprehensive plan
designation could be low "LD /LB -1" while the zoning could be designated as
"M -3" with the potential for "LB -1" by requesting a rezoning at a future
date.
Mr. Coady noted that he had previously requested "LB" zoning and
discussed the past history of his planning and consultant's work on the
site.
Associate Planner McMonigal noted that at the next meeting the Staff
will provide further information regarding the noise standards and a clear
differentiation between the use of limited business zoning and multi-
family housing on this site.
Member Kleckner stated that the Commission should consider using the
comprehensive plan for flexibility and then allow the applicant to add new
zoning at a future date.
Member Carlson stated that in the summer of 1989, he had tabled
further discussion on this issue while awaiting Mr. Coady's more definite
plans regarding the end use for this site. Coady responded that there
were no more definite plans available at this time.
Chairman Erickson closed the public hearing.
C.
Apple Ponds
Exceptions - Rezoning from " A " ,
Agriculture to
"M -6B"
or "C" and "M -8B" or "C"
LOCATION:
East Side of
Cedar
Avenue Between 155th and 157th
Streets West
PETITIONER:
City of Apple
Valley
(PC90- 008 -PZ)
STAFF REPORT:
February 21, 1990
by
City Planner Richard Kelley
Planning Commission Minutes
February 21, 1990
Page 6
City Planner Richard Kelley provided a background for the public
hearing which illustrated that the site is currently zoned for
agricultural uses, but is designated on the comprehensive plan for multi-
family uses at densities of 6 to 12 units per acre in one area and 12 or
more units on another portion of the site. He noted that the owners of
the site (The Carroll Family) have indicated a preference for retail
business along 155th Street West. Kelley noted that the retail business
destination existed on the comprehensive plan from 1985 to June 1989.
Reid Hansen of McMenomy, Hansen, Carroll and McCann Law Firm,
representing the Carroll family, stated that the Carrolls object to the
rezoning of the northern portion of the site for multi - family, noting that
the site is properly situated for commercial development. Mr. Hansen
provided back- ground information regarding the previous designation of the
area along 155th Street as a retail business area. He noted that the
Carrolls had donated their land for 155th Street in consideration for a
comp plan designation of retail business along the south side of 155th
Street. In October of 1985, the City Council had changed the
comprehensive plan to retail business along the north side with the
anticipation of the south side of 155th would also be retail business at
some future date. With the rest of the area south of 155th to be a higher
density, multi - family site.
Hansen noted that the Carroll family is currently in negotiations
with a potential user for the site. He would like the site rezoned to
some type of commercial use.
Chairman Erickson stated that retail business may not be an
appropriate buffer for single - family uses. A general discussion of the
zoning and past history ensued.
Hanson noted that the value difference between multi- family and
retail business is very significant and affects the overall valuation of
the Carroll property.
Kelley noted that when Menards was constructed, Menards was requested
to include buffers in their project - including screening landscaping,
noise abatement, and building design in order to reduce the impact on the
land south of 155th Street. Menards has become an adequate buffer with no
need for additional retail buffers.
Brian Jergenson, 7250 157th Street W., said that he objected to
commercial development on the site and asked for further clarification
regarding what developers have approached the City for uses on the site.
In addition, Mr. Jergenson asked for clarification regarding the number of
units that would be allowable on the site. A general discussion of the
densities for development on the site ensued with examples of quads,
three -story walk -up apartments at 18 units per acre, townhouse projects of
4 units per acre, and other clustered building design discussions.
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February 21, 1990
Page 7
City Planner Kelley noted that Clark Oil is interested in a portion
of the site, as well as the original soccer field building operators
interested in a portion of the site on the far east end of 155th Street.
He noted that a three -story building would be the limitation for the areas
along 157th Street and that these three -story apartments have a maximum
density of 12 units per acre.
Jennifer Poepping, 7247 Upper 157th Street W., expressed concern
about the value of the new homes being reduced by the introduction of
townhouses and apartments, as well as gravel pits to the east.
Member Felkner stated he was concerned that the addition of more
retail business space may not be a significant buffer adjacent to single -
family homes. Jennifer Poepping asked for further details regarding the
site plans on the site and asked to be notified when additional details
are available.
City Planner Kelley provided background on the performance standards
and setbacks required for "B" and "C" types of multi - family housing.
Mary Jergenson, 7250 157th Street W., asked for clarification
regarding where townhouses would be located and how access would be gained
onto 157th Street or Cedar. City Planner Kelley noted that there will be
no access onto Cedar, but only onto 155th and 157th and perhaps Galaxie
Avenue to the east. There would be a very limited number of direct
driveway accesses by townhouses onto 157th Street. He also noted that at
least one north /south street connection will be made between 155th and
157th Street.
Mary Jergenson asked the Commission to consider protecting the
Canadian geese nesting areas that are in or near the development site.
Reid Hansen stated that 157th should be buffered. The single- family
homes along 157th should be buffered by multi- family housing to a depth at
least as wide as the parcel along its eastern perimeter adjacent to
Galaxie Avenue.
Chairman Erickson closed the public hearing.
6. LAND /USE ACTION ITEMS
C. Hidden Ponds
Rezonings
LOCATION: North of Zoo
PETITIONER: City of Apple
STAFF REPORT: February 15,
- Comprehensive Plan Amendments and
Road and East of Cedar
Valley (PC89- 083 -ZP)
1990 by Planning Intern
Avenue
Kurt Chatfield
Member Kleckner stepped down from the Planning Commission table and
sat in the audience.
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February 21, 1990
Page 8
Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield provided a Staff report and background
information regarding the zoning consistency case for this site. He
summarized the issues as follows:
Comprehensive Plan
The Planning Staff recommends that the existing "MD" designation be
changed to the following (for details see Exhibit A):
SF - for existing single- family home areas.
LD - for existing duplex areas.
HD - for existing apartments.
HD - for Lot 1, Block 1 of Hidden Ponds (vacant lot).
Zoning
The Planning Staff recommends that the existing "M -8C" zoning
designation be changed to the following (for details see Exhibit B):
R -3 - for existing single- family home areas.
R -3 - for existing duplex areas.
M -7C - for Lot 1, Block 1 of Hidden Ponds.
Existing apartments will remain "M -8C ".
Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield noted that the property owner has
requested "M -8C" designation on the vacant Lot 1, Block 1 and on duplex
lot, Lot 2, Block 1. The Staff recommended the use of "R -5" on Lot 2,
Block 1.
Chatfield stated that the two sites could be developed independently
or could be consolidated into one tax parcel for development as an "M -7C"
multi - family apartment site. A general discussion ensued regarding the
difference between "M -7C" and "M -8C ".
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Weldon, to recommend approval of the comprehensive plan and zoning changes
as per the Staff report of February 15, 1990. The motion carried
unanimously, 6 - 0 (Kleckner had previously sat in audience)
D. Domestic /Calistro - Comprehensive Plan Amendments and
Rezonings
LOCATION: West of Cedar, Between 138th and 140th Streets
PETITIONER: City of Apple Valley (PC89- 051 -Z)
STAFF REPORT: February 15, 1990 by City Planner Richard Kelley
City Planner Richard Kelley provided a background report discussing
the proposal to change the existing "R -1" and "RC1" zoning to a multi-
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family residential density of "M -1B" and "M -6B ". A discussion ensued
regarding the trips generated per day noting that post office vehicles are
considered a separate trip when a mail truck visits each house.
Kelley noted that the City Engineer has reviewed the request to cut a
drive through in the median at 140th Street. This is not recommended by
the Staff because of safety problems with crossing traffic. He also noted
that Dakota County will not approve a signal at 138th and Cedar Avenue.
The Staff recommended that the comprehensive plan be updated to low
density and moderate density mixed residential development and that the
site be rezoned to "M -1B" and "M -6B ", respectively.
Member Felkner asked for clarification regarding the county design of
Cedar Avenue, asking whether a prepared -to -stop flashing sign could be
installed at the top of the hill. Kelley responded that this would be a
retrofit according to the County and it is normally used in visually
obstructed traffic lanes, but that Cedar Avenue is dangerous because of
the slope wherein traffic increases speed. A more likely solution to the
safety problem would be that the County would close the intersection of
138th and Cedar Avenue. A general discussion ensued regarding traffic and
speed on Cedar Avenue and Pennock Avenue.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Felkner, seconded by Member
Weldon, to recommend a comprehensive plan and zoning amendment to be
changed as per the Staff recommendations, including moderate density
development and low density development, as well as rezonings to "M -6B"
and "M -1B" with a central road designation to define the division between
the various zoning use. The motion carried unanimously, 6 - 0.
E. McNamara /and Others - Comprehensive Plan Amendments
and Rezonings
LOCATION: Between Cedar and Pennock, North of 138th Street
PETITIONER: City of Apple Valley (PC89- 059 -Z)
STAFF REPORT: February 21, 1990 by Associate Planner Meg McMonigal
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal provided a background report in which
she reviewed the proposed change in the Land Use Guide Plan from "LD ", low
density residential, to a combination of "LD" and "SF ", single - family
residential, and a rezoning from "R -1 ", large lot single - family, to "R -3"
single - family, "R -5 ", duplex, "M -IA" 3 to 4 units per acre, "M -2" 3 to 5
units per acre, or "M -3A" 3 to 6 units per acre. She reviewed the number
of units population and trips generated by the three types of zoning
districts proposed. McMonigal noted that only in the "M -lA" zone is a
detached single- family housing unit permitted.
She recommended that the comprehensive plan be changed from low
density 3 to 6 units per acre to a combination of low density and single -
family units and that the zoning be changed from "R -1" to "R -3" and to
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"M -1 ". A general discussion of official mapping within the proposed road
system corridor ensued.
Member Sterling asked for clarification regarding the procedure to
dedicate park land in the area. A consensus of the Committee was that the
Planning Commission will not resolve the park issue until such time as a
future development plan is proposed.
Chairman Erickson asked Staff to provide direction to the Planning
Commission on a policy regarding street development and construction for
this area in order to avoid piece meal projects.
NOTION: A motion was made by Member Sterling, seconded by Member
Weldon, to recommend a comp plan designations single- family and low
density as per the proposal and maps by the City Planning Staff. The
motion carried 6 -0.
Member Carlson asked what would be the difference between the
previous Vista /Domestic case and the lower density multi - family adjacent
to Cedar Avenue in the McNamara case.
Chairman Erickson stated that the higher density would allow for
better development at the intersection corner. McMonigal noted that the
lower density on the McNamara site is proposed in order to reduce or limit
the amount of additional traffic flowing through the 138th and Pennock
area. In addition, the McNamara area has fewer road accesses either to
Cedar or to the south.
A general discussion ensued regarding the density differences between
2 and 3 floor apartment buildings. Member Sterling stated that "M -1"
zoning would be more compatible with adjacent single - family development.
Chairman Erickson noted that it would be easier and more flexible for the
developer to designate the site as "M -3" and allow the developer to down
zone to "M -1" than to do the reverse.
City Planner Kelley provided some examples of 3 to 6 unit townhouse
projects across the street from single - family home areas and in
particular, pointed out the Wildwood Townhouse project, which is a 4 unit
per acre project.
Member Gowling stated that when the land becomes scarce within the
Apple Valley area, single- family development will develop along Cedar
Avenue.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Sterling, seconded by Member
Felkner, to rezone the "R -1" area to a combination of "R -3" and "M-IA".
The motion failed 5 - 1.
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MOTION: A motion was made by
Weldon, to rezone the "R -1" areas
discussion of the motion ensued in
comparison of the additional vehicle
"M -3A ". McMonigal responded that the
the "M -3A" would produce 576 vehicle
developer could always request a down
thus, the "M -3" is more flexible than
Member Felkner, seconded by Member
to "R -3" and "M -3A ". A general
which Member Sterling requested a
projected between an "M -1A" and an
"M -IA" would provide 384 trips while
trips. Member Felkner noted that a
zoning to "M -IA" from the "M -3" and
an "M -IA" designation.
The motion carried 5 - 1.
F. Ulrich Farm - Rezoning from "A" Agriculture to "M -6A"
LOCATION: Northeast Corner of Pilot Knob and County Road 38
PETITIONER: City of Apple Valley (PC90- 003 -Z)
STAFF REPORT: February 21, 1990 by Community Development Director
Dennis Welsch
Community Development Director Dennis Welsch provided a background
description in which he noted that the zoning district and the compre-
hensive plan designations for the Ulrich property are not consistent. The
zoning designation allows for agricultural uses, while the comprehensive
plan allows for a moderate density, multi- family land use. He noted that
a moderate density land use would allows for 6 to 12 units per acre. On
this 7 acre site, approximately 84 units would be allowed in a moderate
density development.
The Planning Staff recommended a rezoning of this site from "A" to
"M -6A" allowing 6 to 12 units per acre and being consistent with the
existing City comprehensive plan designation of "MD ".
The Planning Commission reviewed the comments from the public hearing
on February 7th and discussed driveway accesses on Highway 38 and traffic
congestion along Pilot Knob Road.
The Commission requested more detail at a later date regarding the
design and ultimate land use designation for any expansion of the golf
course maintenance buildings onto the Ulrich site.
MOTION: A motion was made by
Gowling, to recommend rezoning of the
The motion carried unanimously, 6 - 0.
Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Ulrich parcel from "A" to "M -6A ".
7. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. 1990 Goals - Sterling
Planning Commission Minutes
February 28, 1990
Page 12
Virginia Sterling provided a verbal report from the January 18th and
19th City Council Goal Setting Sessions, noting the process and the
individual goals that were discussed. The Commission accepted the report
and placed it on file.
B. Growth Projections - Chatfield
Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield provided a description of the growth
projections for Apple Valley based upon a project he and other members of
the Staff have been working on. He illustrated household size, vacant
residential land, and population projections through the year 2005. After
a general discussion, the Planning Commission accepted the report and
placed it on file.
8. OTHER BUSINESS
A. 1990 Minnesota State Planning Conference
The Planning Staff was directed to provide three full memberships to
the State Planning Conference to be held in early May in Bloomington.
B. Planners Periscope - A Look At Future Meetings
This information will be mailed out at a later date by Associate
Planner Meg McMonigal.
C. Planning Commission Liability
Member Carlson asked the Staff to request a legal opinion from the
City Attorney regarding the coverage that the Planning Commission Members
have individually within the City insurance policy if members of the
Commission were sued regarding City decisions or business. The Staff will
request an opinion from the City Attorney.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 10:57 p.m.
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