HomeMy WebLinkAbout08/01/1990PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
AUGUST 1, 1990
1. CALL TO ORDER
The August 1, 1990 meeting of the Apple Valley Planning Commission
was called to order by Chairman Robert Erickson at 7:50 p.m, in the City
Council Chambers of the City of Apple Valley City Hall.
Members Present: Chairman Erickson, Members Carlson, Gowling,
and Kitzman.
Members Absent: Weldon, Sterling, and Felkner.
Staff Present: Richard Kelley, Meg McMonigal, Scott Hickok,
Dennis Welsch, and Lon Anne.
Others Present: See the sign -in sheet.
2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
The proposed agenda of the August 1, 1990 meeting was amended to add
Item 6A - Parking Lot Expansion at Greenleaf and Westview Schools.
MOTION: With the above amendment, Member Carlson moved, seconded by
Member Gowling, to adopt the agenda. The motion carried unanimously.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF JULY 18, 1990
MOTION: A motion was made
by
Member Carlson,
seconded
by Member
Gowling, to approve the minutes of
the
July 18, 1990
meeting as
submitted.
The motion carried unanimously.
Clubhouse Expansion for Storage Space
LOCATION:
8661 - 140th Street West
PETITIONER:
4. CONSENT AGENDA (One motion sends items needing no discussion on to
the City Council with the staff recommendations.)
A.
Zoning Ordinance Amendment Permitted Setback
Encroachments
LOCATION:
City of Apple Valley
PETITIONER:
City of Apple Valley (PC90- 030 -B)
B.
Site Plan for Apple Valley Executive Golf Course
Clubhouse Expansion for Storage Space
LOCATION:
8661 - 140th Street West
PETITIONER:
City of Apple Valley (PC90- 043 -B)
Planning Commission Minutes
August 1, 1990
Page 2
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Kitzman, to recommend approval of 4A - Zoning Ordinance Amendment
Permitted Setback Encroachments and 4B - Site Plan for Apple Valley
Executive Golf Course Clubhouse Expansion for Storage Space. The Planning
Commission motion included all staff recommendations. The motion carried
unanimously.
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Carrollton Commercial Addition Preliminary Plat
and Bachman's Conditional Use Permit for Outdoor
Sales
LOCATION: Corner of County Road #42 and 147th Street West
PETITIONER: R.W.W., Inc. and Bachman's (PC90 -040 -S and
PC90- 041 -BC)
STAFF REPORT: August 1, 1990 by City Planner Richard Kelley
Chairman Erickson opened the public hearing on the preliminary plat
and the conditional use permit for outdoor sales.
City Planner Richard Kelley provided a background report based upon a
written staff report of August 1, 1990. He noted that the comprehensive
plan for the area has designated the area for shopping center and retail
business, while the zoning in the area designates the site as planned unit
development 341, subdivision 4A and is primarily to be used for retail
uses.
Kelley explained the surrounding uses and noted that 147th Street and
Pennock Avenue are neighborhood collector streets. Pennock Avenue is also
a portion of the Ring Route System. He explained that 147th Street, from
Pennock to County Road 42, will eventually have street lights, trees, and
sidewalks along it.
Kelley reviewed the overall preliminary plat, noting that a loop road
would connect from 147th to Pennock at 149th Street. There would be a
right turn only lane on County Road 42 into the site and allowing for
exists in a right hand manner. Kelley noted that it is unclear at this
time whether the subdivider (Winkler) will utilize public streets or a
private road construction system. No further information was available at
this time. The staff will be working with Winkler on this project during
the upcoming two weeks.
Kelly also described the Bachman's site plan, noting that the
building will be an L- shaped building and will have only one driveway from
147th Street, but will have internal access from the shopping center roads
at the northwest and northeast corners of the site, as well as southeast
corner. The intersection of the shopping center streets at the northeast
corner of the Bachman's site have been reworked to create a "T" intersec-
Planning Commission Minutes
August 1, 1990
Page 3
tion. The west loading area adjacent to the shopping center road shares
both car and truck traffic and is not screened adequately.
Kelley
noted that
the
landscaping on the site
meets or exceeds
the
requirement
that 2 1/2% of
the construction value be
placed in
live land-
scaping on
the site.
Bachman's had requested that
the City
reduce
its'
requirement
for street
tree
plantings, but Kelley reported
that
the
City
Forester has
required
that
the standard City tree
placements
along
the
boulevard be utilized.
This
means that trees will
be planted
every
27
feet.
Parking setback reductions were discussed in detail. Since Bachman's
will only construct three rows of parking in front of their building and
will depress the parking lot and create a berm of one to two feet, it may
be unnecessary to require a three to four foot high berm as was stipu-
lated in the planned unit development for this area. Kelley also noted
that the side and back areas, where outdoor displays will take place, will
be screened and fenced with a wrought iron fence.
The architecture of the building will be combination of brown brick,
glass, and a major architectural atrium entrance. Kelley stated this
architecture is compatible with other downtown designs.
Brian Clots, architect representing Bachman's,
plans and outdoor display areas are designed to meet
unit development requirements. He explained the
connections to the existing pedestrian walkways.
elevations and a nighttime elevation of the site.
Chairman Erickson stated that the projei
compatible, project.
stated that the site
or exceed the planned
Bachman's concept of
He displayed building
:t is an attractive,
Cheryl Clark, 7929 147th Street W., stated that many of the neighbors
that have just moved into the site have not received notification of this
hearing. Kelley explained that the notification has gone out to all
property owners of record within 350 feet. The record was submitted to
the City by Dakota Abstract. Ms. Clark asked for additional information
regarding the amount of parking on the site, noting that three rows of
parking may not be enough in terms of high sales, particularly in the
spring. She asked if 147th Street would be available for overflow parking
and expressed concern about the speed control on 147th Street.
Chairman
Erickson responded that the
parking on the site has been
reviewed by the
staff and by Bachman's in which
Bachman's noted "full
utilization will
occur only a few weekends
in May ".
Chairman Erickson
encouraged Ms.
Clark to speak with Council
Members
regarding police and
speed controls on
147th Street.
Planning Commission Minutes
August 1, 1990
Page 4
Ms. Clark asked for further information regarding the trucks making
delivery on the site and from which direction these trucks would be
entering or leaving. A general discussion of the truck delivery process
ensued. City Planner Kelley noted that 147th Street is constructed to a
nine ton size, thus allowing trucks to utilize the street without damage
to it. He also noted that there appears to be more than enough parking on
the site and that the developers will be requested to have cross easements
allowing for additional parking in the shopping center site when an
overflow situation occurs. He noted there will be no parking allowed on
147th Street since it is a four -lane road with no parking lanes.
Ms. Clark asked if the stoplight will be installed at County Road 42
and 147th Street. Chairman Erickson responded that the petitioner has
requested a stoplight, but the cost of such a stoplight is $100,000 and
that the site will have to meet traffic warrants. It may be installed in
the future.
Ivan Adams, 863 Haralson Drive, asked for further information
regarding the berms along County Road 42. He requested that berms and
landscaping assist in reducing lights and car impacts parked across the
street from the Bachman's site. City Planner Kelley responded that the
combination of landscaping berms and a depressed parking area will reduce
the impact of the headlights.
Sheila Hisdahl, 815 Fireside Drive, asked for clarification regarding
the types of street lights to be utilized on the site.
Dick Neumeg, 14741 Guthrie Avenue, asked what would be the additional
uses on the site. Staff responded that the specific additional retail
uses have not been determined at this time by the developer, Winkler.
Jane Angove, 14719 Guthrie Avenue, asked the Planning Commission for
clarification regarding the uses that would occur on the north side of
147th, between Pennock Avenue and Guthrie Avenue. The Planning Commission
and Staff responded that this is a general retail area and would allow for
most types of retail use including gas stations and fast foods. However,
a buffer of berming and landscaping will be required along Guthrie Avenue
and no driveway access will be allowed onto Guthrie Avenue.
An unidentified citizen asked the Commission to consider whether
there would be pollution coming from the site either from vehicles or
fertilizers. Mr. Todd Bachman of Bachman's, Inc. stated that he was un-
aware of any chemicals or fertilizers that would hurt the environment. He
stated that only one truck would deliver on a normal day and two to three
trucks would deliver on busier days. The trucks would be on the site from
9:00 to 5:00 p.m. and would not be parked on the site over night.
Planning Commission Minutes
August 1, 1990
Page 5
Susan Trish, 15454 Drexel Way, stated that Minnehaha Nursery has been
in the community for many years and has had no problems with either
trucks, fertilizer, or other environmental problems.
Chairman Erickson asked the staff to respond more definitively on the
stoplight situation at 147th Street and County Road 42. He also requested
a definitive answer on the screening of rooftop mechanicals.
Brian Cluts noted that the current design has a 5 foot parapet wall
around the entire building, thus screening all mechanical equipment.
Member Kitzman asked the staff and developers to work out more
details regarding the screening of the loading dock area.
There were no further public comments. Chairman Erickson closed the
public hearing. The Planning Commission will review further details of
this project on August 15, 1990.
6. LAND USE /ACTION ITEMS
A. Parking Lot Expansion For Greenleaf and Westview
Schools
LOCATION: City of Apple Valley
PETITIONER: City of Apple Valley
STAFF REPORT: August 1, 1990 by City Planner Richard Kelley
City Planner Richard Kelley provided a handout to Planning Commission
Members which illustrated proposals by School District 196 to add 19 to 20
parking spaces each to the street side of Westview and Greenleaf Schools.
He noted that the parking and the parking setbacks meet or exceed the
zoning code requirements and that there are existing driveways in both
situations to allow for surfacing this new parking area.
Member Carlson stated that he was concerned with the site planning at
Greenleaf School. While the parking does meet the setbacks for the zoning
codes, it is a major loss of green space in front of the building.
Carlson asked if there would be another alternative site on the school
property for such parking, perhaps in the service area to the north and
west.
A general discussion ensued regarding the parking sites and the
esthetics and landscaping at the schools. Member Carlson recommended that
the City and School District work to modify these parking areas by
providing more landscaping or finding alternate sites for the parking
lots.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Kitzman, to recommend denial of the site plan for parking at Westview and
Planning Commission Minutes
August 1, 1990
Page 6
Greenleaf Schools as presented, because there are no other alternative
sites shown nor is a landscaping plan provided for screening of the
parking areas (from the street) that were actually proposed. The motion
carried with two members approving the motion, one member opposed to the
motion, and one member abstaining from the motion.
7. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. ZonCon 003 - Palomino Woods Exception (McMonigal)
B. ZonCon Oil - North Star Industrial (Welsch)
C. ZonCon 037 - Rodeo Hills (Kelley)
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Gowling, to set public hearings for zoning consistency case 003 - Palomino
Woods Exception, zoning consistency case 011 - North Star Industrial Park,
and zoning consistency case 037 - Rodeo Hills for the first meeting in
September of 1990. The motion carried unanimously.
In zoning consistency case 003, the staff was instructed to provide
notification of rezoning to "R -5 ", "M -1 ", "M -2 ", or "M -3" and to
illustrate that the comprehensive plan would change to LD - low density.
In zoning consistency case 011, the staff was instructed to advertise
in the public hearing that the zoning would be changed from heavy
industrial to light industrial.
In zoning consistency case 037, the commission recommended that the
legal notification advise the site as being rezoned from "M -4C" to "M -3C ".
8. OTHER BUSINESS
Member Carlson asked for the staff update on the Environmental Impact
Statement /Gravel Planning Report. Dennis Welsch reported that there has
been no new activity other than meeting with the consultants to establish
time lines for completion of the revisions to the Environmental Impact
Statement and to begin the studies and uses for the land north of County
Road 42. He noted that it is unlikely that the revisions to the Environ-
mental Impact Statement will be done until November or December of 1990.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 9:18 p.m.
kg