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CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
November 28, 1990
1. CALL TO ORDER
The November 28, 1990 meeting of the Apple Valley Planning Commission
was called to order by Chairman Robert Erickson at 7:34 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers of the City of Apple Valley City Hall.
Members Present: Chairman, Robert Erickson, Members Carlson,
Edgeton, Felkner, Gowling, Kitzman, and Sterling.
Staff Present: Richard Kelley, Meg McMonigal, and Dennis Welsch.
Others Present: See the sign -in sheet.
2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
The proposed agenda for the November 28, 1990 meeting was approved
with one addition. Item 6B - Veterinary Clinic Excavation and Foundation
Permit Review.
MOTION: The motion to accept the agenda with the amendment carried -
unanimously.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 7, 1990 MEETING.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Gowling, to approve the minutes of the November 7, 1990 meeting. The
motion carried 5 - 0 with two abstentions ( Felkner and Erickson).
4. CONSENT AGENDA (One motion sends items needing no discussion on to the
City Council with the staff recommendations.)
- None -
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Cedar Knolls Subdivision
LOCATION: West Side of Germane Avenue, North of 127th Street
West
PETITIONER: City of Apple Valley and Thorson - Cornwell Company
(PC90- 013 -ZS)
STAFF REPORT: November 28, 1990 by City Planner Richard Kelley
Planning Commission Minutes
November 28, 1990
Page 2
Chairman Robert Erickson opened the public hearing and requested the
staff to present a background report. City Planner Richard Kelley
presented a background report in which he discussed the application for a
subdivision of land to create four parcels out of one parcel. He noted
that the ten acre parcel would be subdivided into four, two and one -half
acre parcels. The current comprehensive plan designation on the site is
medium density and the current zoning on the site is retail business.
Previously, the Planning Commission and Council Members had discussed this
site because of its inconsistent comprehensive plan and zoning
designations. There was no easy answer as to how to resolve the
inconsistency between the plan and the zoning. The developer /owner of the
site decided to dedicate the property to the City instead of attempt to
develop on this difficult site. The dedication would appear in four
parcels over four years, with Parcel C being dedicated in December of 1990,
Parcel D in January of 1991, Parcel A in January of 1992, and Parcel B in
January of 1993. Kelley noted that while the City may approve a waiver of
platting to allow for transfer of metes and bounds descriptions, a public
hearing is still necessary for the subdivision. The Planning Staff
recommended approval of the project with the stipulation that an access
easement be provided over Parcels A and C to allow Parcels B and D to have
direct access to Germane Avenue.
Chairman Erickson asked the staff what are the proposed uses for the
site. Kelley responded that the City has a number of possible uses for the
site including parkland, park and ride lots, and HRA housing, all of which
could be done on the 10 acre site.
Member Kitzman asked if there was any objection from the convenient
store landowners. The staff responded no objections had been received.
The public offered no comment.
Chairman Erickson closed the public hearing.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Sterling, seconded by Member
Gowling, to recommend approval of the metes and bounds subdivision of one,
ten -acre parcel into four, two and one -half acre parcels subject to access
easements over Parcels A and C to provide access to Parcels D and B. The
motion carried unanimously.
6. LAND USE /ACTION ITEMS
A. Rodeo Hills Porch /Deck Setback Variances
LOCATION: Southwest Corner of the Intersection of Palomino
Drive and Garden View Drive
PETITIONER: Diedrich Builders, Inc. (PC90- 056 -V)
STAFF REPORT: November 28, 1990 by City Planner Richard Kelley
Planning Commission Minutes
November 28, 1990
Page 3
City Planner Richard Kelley provided a background report describing
the need for setback variances to allow maximum size decks and porches as
accessory construction in a townhouse project. The staff recommended
approval of variance between dwelling units on Lots 6 & 7, Block 1, and Lot
8, Block 1, RoDeo Hills, to allow construction of accessory decks and
porches to within 30' of each other's outer edge and in accordance with the
building line illustrated on Exhibit A.
Staff recommends approval of a variance between dwelling units on Lot
9, Block 1, and Lots 10 & 11, Block 1, RoDeo Hills, to allow construction
of accessory decks and porches to within 18.5' of each other's outer edge
and in accordance with the building line illustrated on Exhibit A.
Staff recommends that as part of any variance approval, the developer
be required to submit a revised development plan illustrating the maximum
extent of optional accessory decks and porches all of which must conform to
the required setbacks or have approved variances as listed above. This
plan should also be posted at the sales office.
Chairman Erickson expressed frustration with the development in which
the variance is requested after - the -fact.
Mr. Roger
Anderson, owner of the existing
townhouse unit #10,
described the distance between the townhouse unit
deck and the porch
adjacent to him
as 18.5'. He noted that a 40' setback
is required from the
block walls of
the side of unit #9 and the rear of
unit #10. Anderson
stated that he had
invested over $200,000 in the townhouse on a premium lot
suppose to be
in the woods, which now has been
removed. Anderson
questioned the
permit process, noting that no permit
had been taken out
specifically for
the porch prior to the variance request.
Anderson asked
for clarification
regarding where the setback is taken
from. City Planner
Richard Kelley
responded that the required setback is
from building wall to
building wall.
Kelley also noted that both units #9 and #10 encroach into
that 40' setback.
Bill
Diedrich, builder and
owner,
stated
that the hardship for unit
#9
to have
a porch on the east
side is
that the occupant is handicapped
and
must use
kitchen access to get
to the
porch
level. A general discussion
of
setbacks
ensued regarding the
side
setback,
the rear -to -rear setback,
and
the side -to -rear setback.
In response to a question by Member Gowling, Kelley noted that a
permit had been issued by the building inspector for this structure only,
but that an additional permit was needed for the porch.
Member Edgeton asked if construction had continued since the variance
was requested (staff responded - yes).
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November 28, 1990
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Member Gowling asked if modification would be necessary if no variance
is issued. (Yes)
Member Carlson asked Mr. Anderson what he expected to be done to solve
the problem.
Mr. Anderson responded:
1) He was concerned about the property lines and the structures
being placed properly within the property boundaries.
2) He asked for clarification as to where the house is actually
located on the lot.
3) He asked that the porch be found in violation of the code.
4) The Andersons requested that the porch be removed.
Mrs. Anderson also stated that, if necessary, because of the encroach-
ment into the setback, she would also be willing to take her deck down.
Member Kitzman asked if the porch could be placed along on the north
side of Lot 9 instead of the east side.
site.
Member Gowling asked if landscape screening could be placed on the
Member Carlson asked if both the deck and the porch could be removed.
Members Kitzman and Carlson agreed that the porch and the deck should
be removed, noting that the builder has an obligation to both the buyers
and the City to adhere to the zoning codes.
site.
Mr. Anderson displayed diagrams and pictures of his structure on the
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Erickson, to recommend denial of the variance request. The motion carried
5 - 2. The case will be sent to the City Council on December 13th.
A general
discussion ensued regarding the
setbacks
and orientations of
the
building.
Developer Diedrich stated that
he had
interpreted the west
side
of Lot 10
to be a "side lot line" because
the front
of the unit on Lot
10
faces south.
He also had interpreted the
east side
of Lot 9 to be a
"side lot line ". Thus, Diedrich thought this allows for
a 20' setback.
Member Kitzman asked if the porch could be placed along on the north
side of Lot 9 instead of the east side.
site.
Member Gowling asked if landscape screening could be placed on the
Member Carlson asked if both the deck and the porch could be removed.
Members Kitzman and Carlson agreed that the porch and the deck should
be removed, noting that the builder has an obligation to both the buyers
and the City to adhere to the zoning codes.
site.
Mr. Anderson displayed diagrams and pictures of his structure on the
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Erickson, to recommend denial of the variance request. The motion carried
5 - 2. The case will be sent to the City Council on December 13th.
Planning Commission Minutes
November 28, 1990
Page 5
B. Veterinary Clinic Foundation Permit
LOCATION: Garrett Avenue
PETITIONER: Dr. Kurt Walter - Hansen
STAFF REPORT: November 28, 1990 by Associate Planner Scott
Hickok
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal provided a staff report noting that
the project, which would include 3,000 square feet of veterinary clinic on
the first floor and also 3,000 square feet on the lower level, meets the
City's zoning and parking codes. Staff recommended that the Planning
Commission and Council approve an excavation and foundation permit, but
request the applicant to return with finished building plans and landscape
plans in order to determine the exterior elevation of the building. She
also described the confusion of the number of parking spaces required.
John Natwick, representing the owner, stated that the materials will
be brick and other low maintenance materials. He noted that the lower
level of the building will provide for kennels and two small offices, one
for each veterinarian. He stated that the only way to expand parking
beyond 23 spaces would be to have cross parking easements with the Mardell
Building to the west or the daycare facility to the east.
Member Sterling asked members of the Commission to compare this
structure and its' parking with that of the Cedar View Veterinary Clinic.
Dr. Hansen, the applicant, stated that at a peak time there may be up
to ten staff members in the building, usually from 4:00 to 6:00 p.m. in the
evening. This would leave 13 customer spaces to pick up animals.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, second by Member
Gowling, to recommend approval of the excavation and foundation permit and
to request the applicant to return with finished building plans and site
landscape plans. The motion carried 6 - 0 with one abstention (Karen
Edgeton). The project will be placed on the December 13th City Council
agenda.
7. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Sign Ordinance Revisions
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal provided an outline of revisions to
the sign code, which will allow for more administrative clarity. The
following new sections would be added:
Section 6 -105 - Building Sign Criteria
Section 6- 104(d) - New Definitions For Open House Signs
Section 6- 104(i) - Pedestrian /Awning Signs
Section 6- 105(a) - Limited Business Signs
Section 6- 104(v) - Public Interest /Land Mark Signs
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November 28, 1990
Page 6
A general discussion ensued regarding the amendments and the need for
clarity in the builder's model home sign criteria. No action was
necessary.
B. Transportation Plans and Policies
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal provided a presentation which dealt
with strategies for travel demand management. See Attachment A and
Attachment B.
C. Policies Regarding Industrial Land /Zones
The Planning Commission, Community Development Director Dennis Welsch,
and City Planner Richard Kelley discussed the need for clarifying
industrial land development policies and zoning. A handout was provided to
describe the various actions that could be taken. The staff will provide
specific recommendations on each of the discussion items at future
meetings.
No action was taken.
8. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Planning Commission Christmas Party
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Erickson, to hold the annual Planning Commission Christmas Party after the
meeting on December 19th at Member Gowling's house. All members are to
bring treats. The motion carried unanimously.
B. Discussion of WCCO I -Team Investigation of Building Inspection
Activities Within The City of Apple Valley
A general discussion ensued regarding the reports prepared by WCCO and
the response from other construction people in the community. No action
was taken.
C. Discussion of Ordinance Enforcement For Snow Shoveling and
Plowing
The Planning Commission requested the staff to provide more publicity
and newspaper coverage of the City Code requirements for snow shoveling
individual, residential sidewalks. The Commission asked who is responsible
for enforcing the snow shoveling and snow plowing code. Welsch responded
that this is within the streetscape area and therefore, would be
administered by the Public Works Department when sidewalks are within
right -of -way and by the Parks Department when pathways are within parks.
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The staff was asked to follow up on this issue and provide a report at the
next meeting.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 10:15 p.m.
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