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CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
APRIL 5. 1989
1. CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Robert Erickson at 7:37
p.m. in the City Council Chambers of the City of Apple Valley City Hall.
Members Present: Chairman Erickson, Members Carlson, Felkner,
Kleckner, Sterling, Weldon and Gowling.
Staff Present: Richard Kelley, Keith Gordon, Scott Hickok, Meg
McMonigal, Lon Aune, Dennis Miranowski and Dennis Welsch.
Others Present: See sign -in sheet.
2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA:
The agenda was approved as written.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF MARCH 15, 1989.
The minutes of the March 15, 1989 meeting were approved with the
following correction. In the last motion of #8, Member Kleckner was not
in opposition but felt meeting with the public would not be productive.
The motion approved 6 - 0 - 1 with Gowling abstaining.
4. CONSENT AGENDA (Non- controversial items needing no discussion may be
placed on this agenda by Commission members. One motion sends items
on to the City Council with the staff recommendations.)
None.
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Planned Development Rezoning and Preliminary Plat -
Hyland Pointe Shores.
LOCATION: North Side of County Road #46, West of Garden View
Drive.
PETITIONER: Arcon Development and Sienna Corporation
(PC89- 014 -ZS).
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April 5, 1989
Page 2
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal provided a background report dated
April 5, 1989 regarding the Hyland Pointe Shores proposal for 46 small
lot, single - family and 14 twin home sites to be constructed within a
planned develop -ment located along the south shore of LacLavon. She
discussed access to the site, grading on the site, and the developability
of the Schumann property, which is southeast of the proposed site. She
recommended that the project is consistent with the comprehensive plan.
Member Kleckner asked Keith Gordon for comment regarding the grading.
Mr. Gordon noted that the road is 16 feet lower than the entry from Garden
View Drive, but that the best access to the Schumann site would be at the
eastern edge of the Hyland Pointe Shores road.
Michael Black of James Hill Consultants and Scott Johnson of Arcon
Development presented information regarding the proposal. They noted the
proposal includes 15 acres with a density of 3.89 units per acres. Mr.
Black stated that Dakota County has agreed to access onto County Road 42,
but in the future it will be limited to right turn in, right turn out
only. Mr. Black discussed the lot layout, the grading and the
landscaping.
M. W. Johnson will build units on this site; primarily single - family
units of 1,200 to 2,200 square feet and twin homes of 1,500 square feet.
All roof styles and exterior materials will be similar. Heavy landscape
materials will be utilized along the site; particularly along County Road
42 and the entry roads.
Street setback reductions will be required on lots 1 through 14,
which would be setback 20 feet from the right -of -way line and on lots 16
through 22 also requiring a 20 foot front yard setback. In addition, all
twin homes would require a 20 foot setback.
Side yard setbacks for this project would be 5 feet on both the
garage side and on the house side. Each garage will be a double garage
and there will be two parking spaces in front of each garage with a
standard street width. Chairman Erickson asked for further information
regarding the cooperation between the developer and the Schmanns regarding
road alignment. Mr. Black stated that the developer has worked with Mr.
Schmann and that a settlement will be reached prior to this project being
reviewed by the City Council.
Member Sterling asked about the unit size and lot size and whether it
was similar to Nordic Woods. Mr. Black responded, "yes, the project is
similar to Nordic Woods. It will provide at least 5 designs of housing
and an additional 5 units are currently being designed." Mr. Johnson
stated that any of these units could be customized to meet the needs of
the owner.
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April 5, 1989
Page 3
Member Kleckner stated that the smaller lots are usually used for
lower income for lower cost housing. He asked why the developer was
requesting custom homes on smaller lots, which will be 13 feet closer to
the curb than would normally be approved.
Mr. Black stated that this is in effort to provide customized,
detached, mid - density, single - family housing with lower maintenance and
smaller lots.
Chairman Erickson stated this is a deviation because in previous
cases the Planning Commission has recommended approval of projects with
smaller lots only for lower income housing.
Scott Johnson stated that the market is very active and it is
targeted for the empty nester. This project will provide many amenities,
but lower maintenance costs. The units will be on one level for the most
part and will be deeper than a normal house.
Chairman Erickson asked for the staff prospective on smaller lots.
City Planner Kelley stated that the City's policy is to provide for a wide
range of costs, but also for a wide range of styles of housing - not
trying to address starter home units in all cases. He stated that these
units can be designed properly with coordinated landscaping and materials
and with a set of consistent setbacks for the entire development.
Scott Johnson provided information regarding the landscape plan which
will be installed on each lot and noted that it would be difficult to
reduce the number of lots because the density is already so low compared
to the current "M -4" zoning.
Member Gowling asked how the site would be marketed. Mr. Johnson
responded that the first phase will have a mix of both single - family and
twin homes within it.
Member Kleckner asked about the length of the cul -de -sac. Rick
Kelley noted that the cul -de -sac will be slightly less than 900 feet.
Member Carlson asked for clarification regarding the street maintenance by
the City and noted that all streets will be public with the exception of
the twin home cul -de -sac, which would be maintained by the homeowner's
association.
A general discussion of the zoning on the Schmann site and the
potential uses of the Schmann site ensued.
Gary Shade, property owner on Lot 17, 15989 Garden View Drive, stated
that this project was much more agreeable than proposals which had been
subm*tted in the past. He expressed concern about pine tr b e ing
planted at the entry roads along Garden View Lane to screen his house from
oncoming cars. He noted that vehicles have destroyed the groundcover
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April 5, 1989
Page 4
along a portion of the old gravel haul road on shoreline near his house
and that it should be immediately seeded after grading is complete.
Chairman Erickson asked if a berm could be placed in that location in
addition to mature pines. Scott Johnson stated in the affirmative. Mr.
Shade asked that a fence be installed to prevent vehicle trespassing from
Garden View. He expressed concern regarding the Schmann property rezoning
not wanting to see anything other than the uses proposed by the Arcon
Development. He expressed concern about grading and runoff into the Shade
property from the west. He noted that he had discussed this matter with
Scott Johnson and the contractor will be allowed to enter onto the Shade
property to match grades properly. Mr. Shade stated that more twin homes
could be developed on the site if each of the lots were at least 80 feet
in width. He expressed concerns over the $120,000 home price and over the
plan to empty storm sewers directly into the lake.
Vicki Gaviglio, 15775 Garden View Drive, stated that she was happy
with the development and very supportive. She had spoken with John Barton
of the Dakota County Soil and Water Conservation office and asked that Mr.
Barton work with the City and the consultant, Hill. Rick Kelley noted
that the City already has a contract with the Dakota County Soil and Water
Conservation District. Mr. Barton's comments related to nutrient
detention basins prior to allowing water to enter into the lake. These
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actually enters the lake. Keith Gordon, City Engineer, discussed the
storm sewer drainage policy of placing catch basins with sediment traps in
order to accumulate up to a year's worth of sediment, rather than allowing
it to run into the lake. Mr. Shade complained about the cleaning of the
catch basins and openings near his home.
Jeff Scislow, 15744 Highview Drive, expressed concern about the size
of the units and noted that he was hopeful that the project would be
completed all at one time.
Member Carlson noted that if this project is approved, it will
dictate what types of development will occur on the Schmann site. Member
Kleckner agreed. A general discussion ensued regarding the plans for
County Road 46 and stop signs on Garden View. City Planner Kelley noted
that County Road 46 will be updated in 1991 to a four lane, divided
highway status with turn lanes. Stop signs will have to be re- examined as
the need increases.
Gary Shade expressed concern over speed and traffic at the
intersection of the new plat with Garden View.
Chairman Erickson asked if there was any comment from Mr. Schmann
regarding this proposal. Mr. Schmann was in the audience, but had no
co w The public hearing Was closed.
Planning Commission Minutes
April 5, 1989
Page 5
B. Rezonings to "I -1 ", "GB" and "LB" - Southport
Industrial Park.
LOCATION: East of Galaxie Avenue Extended, Along the 153rd
Street Alignment.
PETITIONER: Richard Winkler (PC89- 013 -Z).
City Planner Rick Kelley provided a background report dated April 5,
1989 in which he discussed the proposed rezoning of portions of Southport
Industrial Park to light industrial, general business and limited
business. He noted that the shopping center in the gravel area plan will
drive the future needs of this site.
Chairman Erickson stated that this project would reduce another
"D -IV" zone and expressed concern over the amount of "D -IV" land which is
congregating in the southeast portion of the City. He noted that by 1991,
the number of one person households will exceed the number of traditional
households.
Member Kleckner agreed with Member Erickson. He asked for
clarification regarding the ring route and the property development around
the ring route.
A general discussion ensued regarding the shopping center and the
gravel mining operation. Mr. Dick Winkler provided information regarding
his rezoning request and noted that the request discussed this evening
will add to a previous request for land to the west and north of the
current proposal.
No comment was offered from the public. The public hearing was
closed.
6. LAND USE /ACTION ITEMS:
A. Setback Variance for New House.
LOCATION: East Side of Pilot Knob Road, Adjacent to Farquar
Lake.
PETITIONER: Michael Felix (PC89- 015 -V).
City Planner Rick Kelley provided a background report dated April 5th
which reviews a request to construct a house on Farquar Lake. This lot is
52,900 square feet in area with access from Pilot Knob Road. He noted
that a 50 foot setback is necessary from Pilot Knob Road and a 75 foot
setback is necessary from Farquar Lake. Because of the size of the
parcel, a variance would be needed from either the road or the lake. The
parcel was created in 1958 and is a lot of record. The staff has
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April 5, 1989
Page 6
requested further comment from the Department of Natural Resources regard-
ing the normal, ordinary high water mark.
Michael Felix stated that the lot is large and the location of the
house would fit best on the north side of the lot. He will await comment
from the Department of Natural Resources before taking any further action.
Mr. Felix has discussed the access issue with the County, but has to sub-
mit a plan for review and permits from the County for access onto Pilot
Knob Road. He is currently discussing the possibility of creating a joint
driveway access with the neighbor to the north.
City Engineer Keith Gordon stated that in a hundred year flood, the
water will rise to an elevation of 905, limiting the lowest living level
to 908.
Mr. Felix stated he had talked with the
Resources, Mike Mueller, on April 5th. Mr. Gordon
water main is approximately 1,000 feet away from
sewer is directly across the street from the house
that he may want to drill a well on this site and
lion of City water past the site when Pilot Knob
not be for at least 5 years.
Department of Natural
stated that the nearest
this house site; while
site. Mr. Felix stated
await the normal exten-
is updated, which would
Member Kleckner asked City Engineer Gordon to determine the
approximate cost of a water line installation on this site.
MOTION: It was moved by Member Sterling, seconded by Member Gowling
to table the Felix variance request until further comments and a recommen-
dation are received from the Department of Natural Resources. The motion
carried unanimously 7 - 0.
7. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
A. Council Action of March 23, 1989 (verbal Report).
City Planner Rick Kelley provided information regarding the actions
taken by the City Council on April 23rd; including Huntington 3rd
Addition, the 153rd Street design, Lebanon Hills Park rezoning, and
residential parking nuisances.
Regarding the parking nuisances, Chairman Erickson asked that the
staff attempt to provide notice to residents that the City's current
ordinance does not allow for parking on grassed areas.
Member Carlson asked the staff to continue to send Council minutes of
each meeting to the Planning Commission.
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April 5, 1989
Page 7
City Planner Rick Kelley provided further background information
regarding the Zoo master plan update process in which Kathryn Roberts and
members of the Zoo Board appeared before the City Council to explain
their planning process for expanding the Zoo.
B. Zoning or Other Code Improvement Suggestions (Commission).
None.
8. OTHER BUSINESS:
A. Pennock Avenue Corridor Land Use Study (P89- 012 -R).
B. Status of Sand and Gravel EIS - Artificial Lake Policy (Verbal).
C. 1989 -94 Capital Improvement Program (Verbal).
City Planning Staff provided background reports related to the
Pennock - Cedar - Garrett study background information on the Sand and
Gravel Environmental Impact Statement. The Planning Commission will be
asked to study a staff recommendation at its next meeting regarding the
Pennock Avenue land use corridor. In regards to the gravel operation, the
City Staff provided an illustration of an end use plan illustrating a
three lake chain where gravel mining had been exhausted south of 150th
Street. In this area, one of the lakes would be completely surrounded by
a City park. The map also illustrated the connection of 153rd Street to
the downtown.
City Planner Rick Kelley provided information to the Commission
regarding the Capital Improvement Program.
MOTION: It was moved by Member Carlson, seconded by Member Gowling
to set a public hearing for April 19, 1989 regarding the City of Apple
Valley Capital Improvements Program. The motion carried unanimously.
The Planning Commission directed the Staff to place this Capital
Improvements public hearing first on the list of public hearings for April
19th.
The Planning Staff asked that the Staff have packets delivered more
promptly. Dennis Welsch responded that the packets will be delivered by
the Police Staff in the future.
9. ADJOURNMENT:
Th meeting adjourned at 10:45 p.m.
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