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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
OCTOBER 4, 1989
1. CALL TO ORDER
The October 4, 1989 meeting of the Apple Valley Planning Commission
was called to order by Chairman Robert Erickson at 7:33 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers of the City of Apple Valley City Hall.
Members Present: Chairman Erickson, Members Carlson, Felkner,
Weldon, Kleckner, Sterling, and Gowling.
Members Absent: None.
Staff Present: Richard Kelley, Meg McMonigal, Kurt Chatfield,
Keith Gordon, Lon Aune, and Dennis Welsch.
Others Present: See the sign -in sheet.
2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
The agenda was approved with the following changes:
Item 4B, a variance request, was removed from the consent agenda and
placed on the agenda as the first item within the Land Use /Action section.
Item 7 was to include a report on code enforcement.
Item 8 was to include a setting of hearing dates for comprehensive
plan amendments and notification of joint City Council /Planning Commission
meeting minutes.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Weldon, seconded by Member
Carlson, to adopt the agenda. The motion carried unanimously.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 20, 1989
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Sterling, to approve the minutes of the September 20, 1989 meeting. The
motion carried unanimously.
4. CONSENT AGENDA (One motion sends items needing no discussion on to
the City Council with the staff recommendations.)
A. Porch Variance
LOCATION: 14453 Guthrie
PETITIONER: Dennis Van Laecken (PC89- 064 -V)
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MOTION: A motion was made by Member Weldon, seconded by Member
Gowling, to approve a porch setback variance for Dennis Van Laecken
located at 14453 Guthrie with staff recommendations attached. The motion
carried unanimously.
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. J. V. Development Rezoning and Preliminary Plat
LOCATION: South Side of C.R. #38 (125th Street West) East of
Dorchester Trail
PETITIONER: Earl M. Vraa (PC89- 049 -ZS)
STAFF REPORT: September 24, 1989 by Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield
Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield introduced the subject and provided
background information noting that the project request was to rezone 20
acres south of Valleywood Municipal Golf Course from agricultural zoning
to "R -1C" single - family residential zoning. The applicant, Earl Vraa, has
submitted preliminary plats proposing 33 single - family lots and a new road
connecting Dover Drive from the Hunter Ridge plat to County Road 38.
The Planning Staff recommended approval of the rezoning because it is
consistent with the comprehensive plan and adjacent and future land uses.
In addition, the staff recommended that Dorchester Court should not be
extended to the east, but should remain as an existing cul -de -sac. A new
cul -de -sac should be constructed extending east from Dover Drive to
service the area toward Dorchester Court cul -de -sac. An easement should
be provided between lots 3 and 4 to provide future access to the 38 acre
parcel of land east of the Vraa land. This parcel is within the City of
Rosemount. With those conditions, the Planning Staff recommended approval
of the preliminary plat.
Members Weldon and Kleckner asked for clarification regarding
topography and walkout lots adjacent to Dorchester Court.
A general discussion ensued regarding the access to the City of
Rosemount 38 acres parcel adjoining the Vraa land. The staff was
requested to provide more details on the ultimate land use on this site.
City Engineer Keith Gordon stated that it would be better to have this
site served with Rosemount's services. Kurt Chatfield noted that in
addition to normal utility easements, this project will require three (3)
pond area /storm water easements in order to retain storm water on site.
Member Kleckner asked for clarification regarding the park dedication
needed. Kurt Chatfield noted that Valleywood Golf Course and Park is
north of this site and the Hunter's Ridge Park is nearby, within one -half
mile of the Vraa site. He noted that the Park Committee has not reviewed
this subdivision to date, but will do so prior to the next planning
commission meeting.
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Member Sterling asked for clarification regarding the possibility of
making Dorchester Court a cul -de -sac versus a street. City Planner
Richard Kelley responded that the city had intended the site to be a
cul -de -sac - not a through street. Kurt Chatfield and Keith Gordon
explained the need to loop the water system through an easement from the
Woods Subdivision to the south.
William Johnson and Del Schwanz, representatives for Vraa
Development, explained that they had no problem with the rearrangement of
the subdivision to include a cul -de -sac off of Dover Drive instead of
Dorchester Court. Mr. Schwanz noted that the Rosemount access may be
impractical, but created no problem within the lots for the Vraa Develop-
ment.
Stan Swirhun, 12506 Dorchester Court, and Rick Wasilensky, 12516
Dorchester Court, presented the following list of objections to the Vraa
Development:
1. Dorchester Court should remain as a cul -de -sac since it is poorly
drained to the south and would require extensive reworking.
2. Water pressure in the Huntington area is poor in some of the
higher areas with forty (40) pounds of pressure at best.
3. The plan calls for seven (7) lots instead of four (4) adjacent to
the cul -de -sac, thus loosing trees in the area.
They also expressed concern with the grading of the streets and the
need for restrictive covenant to reduce the amount of tree cutting that
would take place in the Vraa Development.
Stan Swirhun asked for clarification regarding the value of the homes
proposed in the area. Chairman Erickson stated that the city stays out of
restrictive covenant issues and does not place values on housing to be
built in an area, but rather lets the market demand place that value.
William Johnson of Vraa Development stated that homes will be upper
echelon homes and that the project will have covenants which protect the
site.
A citizen in the audience remarked that the park area within the
Valleywood Golf Course was not considered a neighborhood park. Chairman
Erickson asked the staff to respond to the citizen request for more infor-
mation regarding the park within the golf course.
Citizens in the area expressed concern about the safety of children
crossing County Road 38 to enter the neighborhood park within the
Valleywood Golf Course area.
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Del Schwanz stated his only objection to the project, as a surveyor
for the project, would be if the project were to loose three (3) lots by
relocating the cul -de -sac on Dover Drive instead of Dorchester Court.
Member Carlson stated that the project would best be served by a new
cul -de -sac off of Dover Drive instead of Dorchester Court.
Pat Cropsey, 12626 Driftwood Lane, asked for clarification regarding
the city's policies for tree replacement. He stated that the Huntington
area was poorly graded and trees were cut down needlessly. He expressed
concern whether the same type of grading would occur on the Vraa site.
Chairman Erickson requested a written report from the Forester and
the Park Committee regarding their concerns over the Vraa property and the
need for tree protection, as well as construction of parks in the area.
Keith Gordon stated that he had received a call from Warren Bond who
lives in the Woods Addition, south of the Vraa site. Mr. Bond stated he
objected to the construction of a road connecting the Woods Addition to
the Vraa Development.
Member Gowling explained the differences in the levels of services
and neighborhood needs as parks and development mature.
Chairman Erickson closed the public hearing.
B. Multi - family Standards - Zoning
PETITIONER: City of Apple Valley (PC89- 043 -Z)
STAFF REPORT: October 4, 1989 by City Planner Richard Kelley
City Planner Richard Kelley provided a background report and
explanation of the issues requiring a new multi- family housing ordinance.
He stated that the new ordinance would upgrade the multi - family districts
into eight (8) separate districts. It would reduce the sliding scale and
uncertainty of current density and it would eliminate overlaps in the
lower and upper ends of density. He explained a bonus system for the
additional density that could be acquired by developers.
Member Kleckner asked if there would be a bonus for underground
parking. Richard Kelley responded no, that underground parking or
attached parking was required in all multi - family A and B zones. Member
Kleckner asked if a functional fireplace would be required and what would
be the definition of a functional fireplace. City Planner Richard Kelley
responded that it could be either gas or wood. A general discussion
ensued regarding the need for two (2) bathrooms and three (3) bedrooms in
some units.
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City Planner Richard Kelley explained the area requirements and the
density requirements proposed and how they will be consistent with the
comprehensive plan.
Member Kleckner asked whether exterior siding should be specified as
a natural material and sited various projects which had steel siding with
low maintenance and good visual appeal. City Planner Richard Kelley
responded that any developer can request, through the public hearing
process and approval of conditional use permit, to use other materials
other than wood or brick. This allows the city to have an additional role
in the review of the exterior of buildings.
Member Kleckner asked for clarification regarding the minimum
setbacks from buildings. City Planner Richard Kelley explained the
definition of height of a building for setback purposes was from the grade
entrance to the overhang of the roof.
The public hearing was closed by Chairman Robert Erickson.
C. Garage Variance
LOCATION:1 424 Walnut Lane
PETITIONER: William K. and Myra M. Almen (PC89- 066 -V)
STAFF REPORT: October 4, 1989 by Associate Planner Meg McMonigal
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal presented a background report
regarding the Almen request for a one foot variance to allow a garage to
set within four (4) feet of side yard.
MOTION: A motion was mad e
Kleckner, to recommend approval
located within four (4) feet of
and to require the applicant to
adjacent neighbor prior to the
carried unanimously.
by Member Weldon, seconded by Member
of a variance to allow a garage to be
a side property line (one foot variance)
provide a letter of support from the
next City Council meeting. The motion
LAND USE /ACTION ITEMS
A. Galles Subdivision Preliminary Plat and Zoning
LOCATION: Cimarron Road, West of Cedar Avenue, North of Palomino
Drive
PETITIONER: Glen F. Galles (PC89- 036 -Z)
STAFF REPORT: October 4, 1989 by Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield
Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield provided a background report relating
to the proposal and previous action provided by the Planning Commission
regarding the rezoning request and the six (6) lot preliminary plat. He
noted that the Park and Recreation Advisory Committee recommended that no
park be constructed because the Galles site was too small, inaccessible
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and had poor visibility. Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield compared the
attributes of a "R -1B" and a "R -1C" zone and highlighted the density
requirements.
A general discussion ensued regarding the soils and drainage on the
site. Chairman Erickson stated that he had received letters of opposition
to the project and was primarily concerned with the soils, setback, and
driveway access problems. Member Kleckner stated that with twenty (20)
feet between the units in a "R -1B" zone, the houses could be specially
designed to sit on narrow, eighty (80) foot wide lots.
Merlin Anderson, 307 Cimarron Road, stated he was opposed to moving
his driveway because it would require cutting down Oak trees and regrading
his lot.
Developer Glen Galles provided information regarding the road
location and the width of the road, asking the Planning Commission to
grant a variance to allow the road width to be reduced to twenty (20)
feet..
Keith Gordon and Member Carlson discussed the accuracy of the current
preliminary plat. Member Gowling stated that the issue should not be
resolved without an accurate drawing and completion of a soil and drainage
study.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Sterling, seconded by Member
Carlson, to recommend denial of a rezoning from "R -1B" to "R -1C ". The
motion carried 6 - 0 - 1. Member Kleckner abstained.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Sterling, seconded by Member
Carlson, to table for two (2) weeks the action on the preliminary plat
with the following corrections to be made during that time:
A. An accurate preliminary plat be filed.
B. Soil borings on lots 1 and 6 be completed.
C. An agreement on the street location acceptable to the City
Engineer be provided to the Planning Commission.
The motion carried 6 - 0 - 1. Member Kleckner abstained.
Member Felkner stated that the Planning Commission should deal with
the lot widths through the normal variance process when the preliminary
plat is considered for approval.
B. American Transportation Bus Garage Site Review and
Building Permit Authorization
LOCATION: Everest Avenue and 148th Street West
PETITIONER: Robert J. Regan (PC89- 065 -BC)
STAFF REPORT: October 4, 1989 by City Planner Richard Kelley
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City Planner Richard Kelley provided a background report dated
October 4, 1989 in which he recommended tabling the issue for further
details. He noted that there was a possibility of 224 buses to be located
on this site and that the site plan allowed for significant infringement
on the residential area to the east and Everest Street to the west.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Weldon, to table action on the American Transportation Bus Garage until
October 18th, at which time a public hearing will be held to discuss the
establishment of a gas dispensing operation on the same site. The motion
carried unanimously.
C. Coldwell Banker Sign Variance
LOCATION: 14990 Glazier Avenue
PETITIONER: John Rezac (PC89- 067 -V)
STAFF REPORT: October 4, 1989 by Community Development Director
Dennis Welsch
Community Development Director Dennis Welsch provided a staff report
regarding a request by Coldwell Banker to create a seventy -five (75)
square foot free - standing sign in a location where a sixty (60) square
foot free - standing sign is allowed and currently exists. He noted that
the applicant does have forty (40) square feet of building area on which
additional signage could be placed instead of requesting an additional
fifteen (15) square feet of sign area on the free - standing sign.
The Planning Staff recommended denial of the variance to allow
additional sign area on the ground sign at the Coldwell Banker building
because there are alternatives, such as decreasing the present sign area
on the free- standing sign to allow signage for a second tenant, or
utilizing the building wall to attach additional signage. In addition,
the staff noted there was no apparent hardship of the land in this site.
Garfield Clark, representing John Rezac, stated that a sign on the
building would create a proliferation of signage and destroy the ascetics
of the building. The sign proposed would be to advertise an attorney's
business. He requested the commission to consider a tradeoff of signage
on the building. In effect, Mr. Clark would agree to placing an
additional fifteen (15) square feet of signage on the free - standing sign,
but prohibit any signage from being placed on the building if this
variance were granted.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Sterling, to recommend denial of a variance request for fifteen (15)
additional square feet of space on an existing free - standing sign. The
motion was defeated 4 - 3.
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Member Felkner recommended that the Planning Commission approve a
variance provided that no additional signage be placed on the building and
that additional signage placed on the free - standing sign will not exceed a
total of seventy -five (75) square feet.
Garfield Clark stated that he can have up to three (3) tenants in the
building and that the first tenant in will receive the choice of signage,
while other tenants will have to abide by the remaining signage available
whether on the building or on the existing free - standing sign.
NOTION: A motion was made by Member Felkner, seconded by Member
Weldon, to recommend approval of a variance to add fifteen (15) square
feet of non -lit signage to the existing free- standing sign provided no
other building or free - standing sign is allowed on the site. The motion
failed on a 4 -3 vote.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Weldon, to table this issue until the next meeting. The motion died on a
3 - 3 vote with 1 abstention.
Member Gowling and Associate Planner Meg McMonigal discussed the
available signage on the building which would allow the owner to place a
forty (40) square foot sign on both sides of the building facade, as well
as allow for a free- standing sign.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Erickson, seconded by Member
Sterling, to recommend denial of the variance. The motion carried on a
4 - 3 vote.
7. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Code Enforcement Quarterly Report
Community Development Director Dennis Welsch presented a summary of
code enforcement issues and activities during the first three - quarters of
1989. He noted that the Planning Staff will prepare an annual report on
code enforcement issues and begin to compare seasonal and annual
activities in code compliance over the coming years in order to gauge time
to be allocated, as well as need for additional ordinance revision.
B. Establish Public Hearing for the Comprehensive Plan
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Felkner, to direct the staff to select a date for a public hearing to
update the comprehensive plan designations for all land use
classifications. The motion carried unanimously.
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C. Zoning Consistency Studies
A series of study meetings to consider additional zoning consistency
reports was discussed. The Planning Commission established the first
meeting of each month, beginning at 6:00 p.m. until 7:15 p.m. as the time
to review zoning consistency reports. The first study meeting will be
held at the first meeting in November - November 1, 1989.
D. Joint Meeting with the City Council
November 16, 1989 (Thursday evening) beginning at 6:00 p.m. at the
Redwood Community Center, the Planning Commission, City Council, Park
Committee, Urban Affairs Committee and Cablevision Commission will meet
for their annual discussion meeting.
8. OTHER BUSINESS
None.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 10:50 p.m.
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