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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
OCTOBER 18, 1989
1. CALL TO ORDER
The October 18, 1989 meeting of the Apple Valley Planning Commission
was called to order by Chairman Robert Erickson at 7:31 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers of the City of Apple Valley City Hall.
Members Present: Chairman Erickson, Members Carlson, Felkner,
Gowling, Kleckner, and Sterling.
Members Absent: Member Weldon.
Staff Present: Richard Kelley, Meg McMonigal, Kurt Chatfield,
Keith Gordon, Lon Aune, and Dennis Miranowski.
Others Present: See the sign -in sheet.
2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
The agenda was approved with the following changes:
Item 7A was added to discuss the government training service courses.
Item 7B was added to discuss the editorial in Thisweek.
Item 8B was added to set a hearing for November 13th for the Park and
Recreation development plan.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Sterling, to approve the agenda. The motion carried unanimously.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 4, 1989
There was one correction to the minutes. On page 6, second
paragraph, the last sentence, should read "Member Kleckner stated that
with twenty (20) feet between the units in a "R -1B" zone, the houses could
be specially designed to sit on narrow, eighty (80) foot wide lots."
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Gowling, to approve the minutes with the above correction. The minutes
were approved unanimously.
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October 18, 1989
Page 2
CONSENT AGENDA (One motion sends items needing no discussion on to
the City Council with the staff recommendations.)
A. Setback Variance for a New Home
LOCATION: Lot 2, Block 2, Cherry Oak Estates
PETITIONER: Frank Biagi (PC89- 070 -V)
STAFF REPORT: October 18, 1989 by City Planner Richard Kelley
NOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Fel kner, to approve a setback variance for a new home, Lot 2, Block 2,
Cherry Oak Estates. The motion carried unanimously.
B. Variance for Front Deck Addition
LOCATION: 148th and County Road #42
PETITIONER: Handyman's Home Services (PC89- 068 -V)
STAFF REPORT:
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Felkner, to approve a variance for a front deck addition at 148th and
County Road #42. The motion carried unanimously.
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. American Transportation Bus Garage Site Review,
Conditional Use Permit for Motor Fuel Dispenser, and
Building Permit Authorization
LOCATION: Everest Avenue and 148th Street West
PETITIONER: Robert J. Regan (PC89- 065 -BC)
STAFF REPORT: October 18, 1989 by City Planner Richard Kelley
City Planner Richard Kelley provided a background report and
presented the revised drawings of the project.
The first phase of the building will be under 13,000 sq. ft. with
single access to the street. The petitioner shifted the building north
and west to allow for greater setbacks and included an underlying berm
along the west side of the property line. A six foot high berm is shown
on the eastern side of the property line. The staff recommended that the
berm be completed all along the lot with the first phase, and the lighting
on the back of the building that faces east should be structured so that
structure be pointed down toward the ground, so it does not shine on the
adjacent property. The public hearing is for a conditional use permit to
allow motor fuel as part of the motor fuel dispensing. They will have a
canopy over the gas pumps. The conditions recommended for the conditional
use permit are that the lights in the canopy also shine directly down and
that a fuel skimmer is added to the storm sewer. It was also recommended
that no additional signs be placed on the gas canopy and no retail sales
of gas are allowed.
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Chairman Erickson inquired as to the height of the berm on the east
side. Six feet high is proposed - eight feet is preferable. Member
Kleckner asked if the petitioner has talked to the adjacent property owner
to work out the berm on the east side of the property. He suggested that
they work out the slopes at this time. Member Sterling asked who the
parking is for and was told it was planned for employees only. Member
Kleckner asked if a forty foot setback was required. Richard Kelley
responded stating that forty feet is normally required, however, twenty -
five feet meets the intent of the ordinance and allows enough maneuvering
area. Member Gowling asked what the plantings on the berm are. The
petitioner responded that there are three various types of bushes and also
crab trees. Member Gowling inquired whether there should be more of a
barricade with evergreen trees, City Planner Richard Kelley responded
that while the intent was to soften the impact of differing uses, the idea
was not to create a wall. City Planner Richard Kelley asked the
petitioner what color they intended to use for the building and suggested
that they use a muted color. The petitioner indicated that they do want
to keep it low key. Chairman Erickson inquired whether there was any
objection to the limitation on signs. The petitioner indicated there were
no problems with that. The public hearing was closed with the staff
recommending approval tonight since it appeared to be a noncontroversial
item.
MOTION: A motion was made by
Kleckner, for the conditional use
canopy, the exclusive gas dispensing
only, and a fuel skimmer be put into
unanimously.
Member Gowling, seconded by Member
permit subject to no signs on the
to be used by American Transportation
the storm sewer. The motion carried
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Kleckner, seconded by Member
Sterling, to recommend building permit authorization subject to an eight
foot high berm along the entire east side with landscaping, and a berm
along the west side with the landscaping subject to staff approval.
Another condition of the motion was that the colors on the building be
neutral. The motion carried unanimously.
6. LAND USE /ACTION ITEMS
A. J. V. Development Rezoning ( "A" to "R -1C ") and
Preliminary Plat
LOCATION: South Side of C.R. #38 (125th Street West) East of
Dorchester Trail
PETITIONER: Earl M. Vraa (PC89- 049 -ZS)
STAFF REPORT: October 18, 1989 by Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield
Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield presented the staff report and
addressed the issues from the public hearing. One was the issue of a
neighborhood park and Mr. Chatfield explained that Valleywood is a special
use park and Huntington Park is the neighborhood park for this area. The
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issue of trees was also addressed. Mr. Chatfield indicated that the staff
would like to know how many trees will be lost and how many will be saved.
Staff recommended approval of the zoning from "A" to "R -1C" and the
amended preliminary plat, which showed the cul -de -sac coming from the east
side versus the west side. Member Sterling asked about the ponds and was
told that nothing had changed in regard to the ponds on the site. She
also inquired about the easement to Rosemount and was told that it remains
in the same place.
Chairman Erickson asked if the Park and Recreation Advisory Committee
had looked at this development plan. He also asked if the developers had
seen it. He was told that the Park and Recreation Advisory Committee had
briefly discussed the issue at their regular meeting. Valleywood is a
golf course and park_ No one is all -owed to be on the golf course without
a ticket purchased from the club house. The public can be in the picnic
area and on the volleyball courts. The staff inquired whether somebody
had been told to leave the park and the golf course staff indicated that
to their knowledge they had not told anyone to leave the park. The
staff developed the tree language that was presented at the meeting as an
indication of what might be included in the development agreement. The
developer had not seen it. The staff indicated to Chairman Erickson that
the development agreement will be worked out with the developer prior to
final plat. A short discussion ensued regarding trees. Mr. Vraa stated
he has not seen the language, but intends to save as many trees as
possible and would like to work with the City Forester to do so.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Sterling, seconded by Member
Carlson, to rezone the property to "R -1C ". The motion carried
unanimously.
Member Kleckner inquired about the option to Rosemount and was
concerned that the two property owners know that this will be a
possibility in the future. City Planner Richard Kelley responded stating
that the option will be filed against the property and will be shown on
their deed.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Kleckner, to approve the amended plat with the option on the east boundary
and the tree issue items addressed in the development agreement. The
motion carried unanimously.
Discussion on the Vraa property continued with Mr. Vraa asking about
the option for easement and the staff explaining the reasons behind. A
general discussion about the conditions under which the City would buy the
easement ensued. The staff indicated that safeguards would be put into
the development agreement regarding this option. Member Kleckner
indicated that he thinks the City should either buy it or not buy it at
this time. A member of the audience, Dan McGinley, asked to make a
comment. He was concerned that the revised plat was not available to the
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public and was also concerned whether the houses at the end of Dorchester
Court would meet City standards. Mr. McGinley was told that the lots do
meet City standards and that the Planning Commission and staff felt that
there would be no difficulties in placing homes on these lots. Mr. Stan
Swirhan, 12506 Dorchester Court, wondered if this new plat contained
everything that was recommended by the staff. The Planning Commissioners
indicated that they felt everything that was brought up at the public
hearing was addressed and that the plat met the standards the City
required. Mr. Swirhan said he was not pleased with the Planning
Commission's tone. The Planning Commissioners responded by indicating
this was not a public hearing, yet they were willing to listen to comments
from the public.
B. Galles Subdivision Preliminary Plat
LOCATION: Cimarron Road, West of Cedar Avenue, North of Palomino
Drive
PETITIONER: Glen F. Galles (PC89- 036 -Z)
STAFF REPORT: October 18, 1989 by Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield
Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield presented the staff report regarding
the Galles Subdivision. He indicated that at the last meeting, the
Planning Commission recommended denial of the zoning request from "R -1B"
to "R -1C ". They would be considering the preliminary plat at this
meeting. Mr. Galles did conduct soil borings as requested by the staff at
the last meeting and the tests indicate that the soils are correctable and
the area is buildable. Chairman Robert Erickson read the Anderson's
letter into the record:
Apple Valley Planners Office
From: Merlin J. Anderson
307 Cimarron Road
Re: Galles Addition
Neither my wife or I will be able to attend the planning commission
meeting on October 18, 1989. As requested by my wife during her phone
conversation with you on October 17, would you please read the following
into the record regarding the approval or disapproval of the access to the
development.
While we certainly respect Mr. Galles right to develop his property,
we continue to violently oppose the placement of the new access road so
close to the end of our driveway at 307 Cimarron Road. This violates the
city ordinance which allows for not less than 30 feet setback between
driveway and intersection. Actually the ordinance technicality is
secondary to the safety issue for our family.
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The present road or "path" that exists on this property is about 30
feet away from the end of our driveway and is the minimum distance
acceptable to us. Our intentions are to obtain legal assistance to reject
this access road if approved as proposed. This is not the only access
available to the development; only the most convenient for the developer.
Access could be purchased on the eastern boundary of the proposed
development.
We respect the planning commissions evaluation of this project
pertaining to the health, safety and welfare of the existing neighborhood
and again ask that this project be tabled until legal, alternate access is
proposed.
Sincerely,
Merlin J. Anderson
Member Gowling asked if the driveway is on the Galles property and
was told that it is. Planning Intern Kurt Chatfield indicated that the
question of the driveway being on another property is a civil matter
between the two property owners. The five -foot shift of the road would
require an approval by a variance so that the driveway would only be
sixteen feet from the new street at the curbline. Member Sterling asked
if a tree will be hurt by shifting the road five feet north and was told
it should not hurt the tree. Chairman Erickson asked if there will be a
stop sign and Keith Gordon replied that normally, there is. Member
Gowling asked if the five -foot shift is to improve the angle or because of
the driveway. Keith Gordon indicated that it is mostly because of the
driveway. Glen Galles indicated that the Anderson's driveway encroaches
three feet on his property. He is not opposed to shifting the street five
feet, but thinks Mr. Peahl did not understand that the shift is in the
right -of -way and thought it would be closer to his house than it is. He
also indicated that the Andersons have an outbuilding that is too close to
the property line.
Chairman Erickson asked about the soil borings. Keith Gordon, after
reading the report, indicated that it looks like on Lot 6 that six feet
would have to be taken out of the building pad. Member Sterling asked if
they could put in 5 lots instead of 6 lots and Mr. Galles replied that
economics dictate 6 lots. Member Carlson inquired as to whether the
driveway issue could be solved. He was told that the staff did try to
work with the Andersons to move their driveway. However, the Andersons
were unwilling to do so.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Felkner, seconded by Member
Kleckner, to approve the preliminary plat with a variance to the setback
requirements with the roadway being shifted five feet to the north at the
intersection with Cimarron Road. The vote was 4 - 0 - 2, with Members
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Sterling and Carlson abstaining. This item will go to the City Council on
October 26, 1989.
C. Valley Olds /Pontiac Building and Site Plan Review
LOCATION: 7500 145th Street W.
PETITIONER: Valley Sales, Inc. (PC89- 071 -B)
STAFF REPORT: October 18, 1989 by City Planner Richard Kelley
City Planner Richard Kelley presented the report on the portable used
car sales office for Valley Olds. He indicated that the existing portable
structure has reached the end of its' useful life and Valley Olds would
like to replace it. The replacement structure does not meet the
requirement for exterior masonry construction standards. The Planning
Commission recommended that the building permit be authorized with a
variance to the building materials requirement because an existing
structure is being replaced.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Kleckner, to approve the building permit with a variance to the exterior
materials and with the condition that the curb area be put in by October
1, 1990. The motion passed 4 voting in favor and 2 abstentions.
D. Multi- family Standards - Zoning
PETITIONER: City of Apple Valley (PC89 - 043 -Z)
STAFF REPORT: October 18, 1989 by City Planner Richard Kelley
City Planner Richard Kelley presented the report summarizing the new
standards, including the bonuses and the changes to the comprehensive
plan. Ross Glynn, 13349 Granada, indicated that he had been at the last
meeting, but did not have time to digest the standards and now had some
questions. He asked what was the purpose of the proposal and indicated
that he doesn't think confusion has been eliminated. There is still some
overlap - which means confusion. Chairman Erickson responded that he
thought the Planning Commission did not want to build the multi- family
zoning standards to be completely inflexible. A general discussion
ensued.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Gowling, seconded by Member
Carlson, to recommended approval with the change in the wording regarding
bathrooms. The motion carried 5 - 0 - 1, with Member Kleckner abstaining.
7. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Government Training Service Courses
The Planning Commission Members all received information about the
Government Training Services Seminars and recommended that we discuss it
further at the next meeting.
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October 18, 1989
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B. Editorial - Thisweek
8. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Consideration of Amendment to "RB" Zone for Car Washes
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Gowling, to set a hearing for November 15, 1989. The motion carried
unanimously.
B. Park and Recreation Development Plan
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Gowling, to set a hearing for the Park and Recreation Development Plan for
November 15, 1989. The motion carried unanimously.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at p.m.
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