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HomeMy WebLinkAbout04/06/1988CITY OF APPLE VALLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES April 6, 1988 Minutes of the meeting of the Apple Valley Planning Commission held Wednesday, April 6, 1988, at 7:30 p.m. at the Apple Valley City Hall. PRESENT: Chairperson Robert Erickson; Commission Members Richard Carlson, Alan Felkner, Marcia Gowling, Frank Kleckner, Virginia Sterling; Staff Members Dennis. Welsch, Rick Kelley, Meg McMonigal, Keith Gordon, Dick Ling; thirty -three members of the public. ABSENT: No one. 1. Chairperson Erickson called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. 2. Approval of Agenda. Mr. Kelley indicated that Item 6 should be withdrawn from the AGENDA agenda at the request of the Petitioner. MOTION: of Carlson, seconded by Sterling, to approve the agenda as amended. VOTE: Yes, 7; No, 0. 3. Approval of Minutes of March 16, 1988. MOTION: of Carlson, seconded by Cowling, to approve the MINUTES Minutes of March 16, 1988, as presented. M ARCH 16, 1S VOTE: Yes, 6; No, 0; Abstain, 1 (Phillip Peterson). 4. Public Hearing for Amendment to Shoreland Zoning Standards. PH AMENDMEt Chair Erickson opened the Public Hearing with the standard SHORELAND opening remarks. Ms. McMonigal presented the changes included ZONING in the Amendment to Shoreland Zoning Standards. The Department STANDARDS of Natural Resources has indicated these changes are acceptable. Discussion centered around the "zone on zone" district, lot provisions, and the high water points of the three lakes involved -- Alimagnet, Moeller, and Farquhar Lakes. Speaking from the Public: 1. Mr. Ed Holmes, 8921 138th St. Ct., AV: asked if the changes would be retroactive and was told the changes would be in effect when the revisions were officially passed. (If the Apple Valley apartment project is approve, it would have to be in compliance with the revised standards. 2. Mr. Albert Hoff, 12969 Diamond Path, AV: was told that a one -acre lot (43,000 ,sq. ft.) would be in compliance with the requirement regarding a substandard lot. Chair Erickson closed the Public Hearing with the standard closing remarks. MOTION: of Peterson, seconded by Felkner, to recommend approval of the revisions to Apple Valley's "SH" Shoreland Zoning District. VOTE: Yes, 7; No, 0. 5. Public Hearing for Rezoning and Preliminary Plat for Huntington 2nd Addition. PH, REZONIN Chair Erickson opened the Public Hearing with the standard opening PREL. PLAT HUNTINGTON remarks. Mr. Kelley presented the petition for a rezoning and PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES April 6, 1988 Page 2 Preliminary Plat of Huntington 2nd Addition - -a mixed residential development containing 111 single - family lots, 61 townhouse units, and 156 condominium apartment units (328 total units). Mr. Gordon indicated that sanitary sewer would be extended from Pilot Knob Road through the property which appears as an exception in the southeast corner of thf plat (requiring an easement); water would be extended from Pilot Knob Road; storm sewer would drain into the pond (in the southeast corner exception area owned by the Petter family) which connects to Farquhar Lake via a 27" culbert. Mr. Gordon indicated the need to replace the old culvert connecting this pond to Farquhar. Reagarding park dedication - -Mr.. Kelley indicated that the Park Committee just met on April 5 and their recommendation is to receive "cash in lieu of land" since the majority of the land recommended for a park site is under water. Also, there is .existing park development on the east side of Pilot Knob Road. The developer indicated this decision by the Park Committee would add about six lots to their proposed development. The City will accept the pond on this site as ana.outlot. The major access would be along the north, CR 1138. The road in Huntington is designed to line up with the ultimate elevation of CR 1138 and would probably become a signalized intersection. The petitioner, Mr. Wayne Tauer of Pioneer Engineering, explained the types of units planned for this project. He indicated that some of the elements from Huntington lst Addition are being brought "into "this project. The condo units will be slightly larger than the townhouse units, and some of the amenities found in single family houses /yards are included. Mr. Kleckner complimented Mr. Tauer on his project in Brooklyn Park which is along the same line as the proposed AV project. Ms. Cowling complimented him on the landscape plan and liked the transition between the high density dwellings and the single family units. Speaking from the Public: 1. Mr. Gene Tousignant, 12669 Pilot Knob Rd., AV: indicated that he owns a portion of the exception area and asked if he could be included in the road going through the project and the ability to 'hook up' to utilities. He questioned the level the pond would be maintained and was told that the current level is a 7' bounce during a severe storm. Mr. Tousignant said that there is a "wetland" on the back of his property that has never been wet in the 20 years he has been at that location, and requested that no wat be backed up to it - -this was.farmed at one time. 2. Mr. Albert Hoff, 12969 Diamond Path Rd., AV; was told that all water was going to drain to Farquhar Lake. Mr -. Gordon explained that the new pumping system for the Lake was been bid and will probably be installed in October. Mr. Hoff expressed concern in the Speed Limit - -50 mph on one side of Diamon Path and on other side 30 mph - -he requested that the speed limited be reduced at least one -half mile along Diamond Path Rd. just before intersect with Pilot Knob Rd. He cited examples of animals killed and expressed concern that next time it could be a human killed because of speed and the lack of sidewalks. Mr. Hoff indicated that he suffered severe damage when the rains of 1987 (summer) caused extenseive damage to his yard - -he indicat he has had to take legal action against Pioneer Engineering and the Rotlunc Company because of the lack of response to his concerns over resolving the damage caused by the washing of soils from Huntington 1 Addition. Mr. Tauer explained that Pioneer Engineering is presently in litigation regarding this matter which was turned over to their insurance company whi< has "free rein" to settle. Discussion ensued as to the errosion controls which were in place, the severity of the storm, etc. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES April 6, 1988 Page 3 Regarding the issue of speed, it would be appropriate for the City to request that a speed study on the portion of the road be done by Dakota County. Mr. Carlson indicated that it would be appropriate for Mr. Hoff to appear before the City Council to indicate the need for a speed study. 3. Mr. Byron Huseby, 4805 Dominica Way, AV: asked about the proposal to control sedimentation because of a 7' loss in the lake and was told of the plan to install new pipe which along with the pumps would help to control this problem. No water from the proposed development will go directly into Farquhar Lake. 4. Mr. James R. Lohmann, 12959 Diamond Path. W., AV: indicated that he is mainly concerned about the flow of water into Farquhar Lake so that the same mistake is not made again by not having adequate storm sewer in place with the land being completely stripped. Mr. Gordon indicated there would be a considerable amount of storm sewer in place. Mr. Lohmann asked about the grading plan, the storm sewer plan, whether the streets would be paved by the City or private contractor, etc.- Mr. Gordon indicated that the water in Long Lake would be raised 2 to 22' and that this is probably not the last planned development for this watershed. Mr. Lohmann said that the level of Farquhar Lake is rising - -he is losing land according to a marke that he placed 15' from the corner of his property. He is also distressed over the number of dead fish. Mr. Ling indicated that the level of the lake is the point that they try to keep it all summer so that it will not become too low. This 12" rainfall in 3 days was definitely unusual Mr. Ling pointed out to Mr. Lohmann. 5. Mr. Doug Williams, 12886 Essex Way, AV: indicated that the residents in his area are in the process of forming a homeowners association because of this development. They are basically concerned about property values, and the elevation of the eastern most side lots. He indicated they have beautiful view of Farquhar Lake at this time and is concerned that this development will "break down": their view. The added population in this area is also a major concern.. He indicated their desire to talk with the developer so that an understanding of the proposal could be determined. Ms. Cowling indicated that she felt the project seems to be a low profile two -story group of units and that there are no 3 -4 story apartment buildings proposed. Mr. Carlson asked if home owners in that area had checked with the City to find out what was planned in that area before purchasing their homes. 6. Mr. Bill Jackson, 12892 Essex Way, AV: expressed concern over the numbers of school children coming from Essex Way to Diamond Path for the school bus. The AV Police are there with radar; there is a high concentration of people there already. Mr. Kelley indicated that he could provide estimated traffic counts and how the anticipated increase in traffic compares with the design of the roar When Pilot Knob Road is widened, this will provide some relief. Ms. Sterling expressed concern over the children in this area and their need for a park - -she wondered if eventually there would be a sidewalk to at least aid them in reaching the park in Huntington 1- -there should be a provision for getting these children safely across Pilot Knob Rd. 7. Ms. Linda Merick expressed concern over the schools and was told how studies are done. 8. Ms. Kim Dally, 12840 Essex Way, AV.: indicated that the proposed townhomes will cut off their view of the lake, the increased density, and the need for a park. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES April 6, 1988 Page 4 9. Mr. Mark R. Gilligan, 12834 Essex Way, AV: indicated they would be overlooking a tar paper and asphalt jungle. 10. Mr. Greg Brown, 13826 Eveleth Ct., AV: requested that Apple Valley not become a part of the Eagan syndrome of building expensive homes next to townhomes. He feels there is not a need for the high density in this area; it does not seem desirable. Mr. Kelley explained the overall need in the City to provide for a variety of housing .needs at various locations. Mr. Felkner indicated that it is in the developer's best interest to not build large homes at the intersection of major roads especially in view of the fact the 30 +7 of a home is the value of the land. Ms. Sterling indicated that she would like to see the final plat with the new cul de sacs, etc. d taileg The neighbors should be made aware of the /pgans w ich the petitioner has for thie area and meet with them to .discuss concerns. Letter received from David and Patricia Evans indicating their views is noted. Chair Erickson closed the Public Hearing with the standard closing remarks. 7. Continuation of Public Hearing for Capital Improvements Plan. PH CAPITAL Mr. Kelley requested that this hearing be continued until IMPROVEMENTE the April 20, 1988 meeting. PLAN- -CONT. MOTION: of Kleckner, seconded by Peterson, to further continue the Public Hearing for Capital Improvements Plan until the April 20, 1988 meeting. VOTE: Yes, 7; No, 0. 8. Discuss Comprehensive Plan Update. Mr. Dennis Welsch indicated that there will be efforts made to COMP PLAN assess strengths. /weaknesses.. of the City by way of Comprehensive UPDATE Plan Review and Updates Procedures. For example, a concise message regarding land use should be included in the City's newsletter to begin an education process of the citizens. (Mr. Welsh will provide a draft of the newsletter at the April 20 meeting.) The April 13 work meeting will focus on sand and gravel operations. 9. Other Items. None were reported. 10. Adjourn. MOTION: of Carlson, seconded by Kleckner, to adjoun the meeting at 10:55 p.m. VOTE: Yes, 7; No, 0. APPROVED SECRETARY