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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05/04/1988CITY OF APPLE VALLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES May 4, 1988 Minutes of the meeting of the Apple Valley Planning" Commission held Wednesday, May 4, 1988, at 7:30 p.m. at the Apple Valley City Hall. PRESENT: Chairperson Robert Erickson; Commission Members Richard Carlson, Alan Felkner, Marcia Cowling, Frank Kleckner, Phillip Peterson, Virginia Sterliu Staff Members Dennis Rick Kelley, Keith Gordon; seven members of tb public. ABSENT: No one. 1. Chairperson Erickson:called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. 2. Approval of Agenda. AGENDA Please note that Items which are acted upon will appear on the City Council agenda on May 26, 1988 (not May 12 as noted on the agenda) unless otherwise noted. MOTION: ofFelkner seconded by Carlson, to approve the agenda for the meeting as corrected. VOTE: Yes, 7; No, 0. 3. Approval of Minutes of 20, 1988. MINUTES Please note the following corrections APRIL 2C Page 2, 3rd line from the bottom - -area is doing (not dring) 1988 Page 3, 10th line from the bottom -- gravel trucks (not gravel picks) Page 5, clarification of by Ms. Elanor.Petter -- add "where the culvert is coming into the Petter property lying west of Farquhar Lake. MOTION: of Carlson, seconded by Cowling, to approve the Minutes of April 20,15 as amended. _ VOTE: Yes, 6; No, 0; Abstain, 1 (Peterson). Chair Erickson commented that he would like a copy of the City Council Minutes dated March 29, 1988, regarding Fischer Gravel.and Sand Mining Operations. 4. Public Hearing for Conditional Use Permit and Building Permit Authorization for Shepherd of the Valley Church Expansion. PH, CONI LOCATION 12650 Johnny Cake Ridge Road. USE PER PETITIONER Shepherd of the Valley Lutheran Church. BLDG. PE SHEt HERI Chair Erickson opened the Public Hearing with the standard opening OF THE remarks. Mr. Kelley explained the request for a conditional use permit VALLEY in the Institutional zoning district being considered because the CHURCH highest point of thgg ggroposed addition will be 45 feet (40 feet being EXPANSIC the limit). All /g����ack and zoning requirements are met. Four hundred seats will be provided with the addition; 124 parking spaces are planned. In the future, there is space for additional parking if needed. The peak of the roof goes to 45' and is solely for architectural interest; this peak is situated on the addition at the fartherest point from the residential area. All property owners within 350' were mailed notice; no one wished to speak at thi hearing. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES May 4, 1988 Page 2 MOTION: of Carlson, seconded by Peterson, to recommend approval of the Conditional Use Permit for the addition to Shepherd of the Valley Lutheran Church regarding the requested height of 45'` at the highest point. VOTE: Yes, 7; No, 0. MOTION: of Carlson, seconded by Sterling, to recommend approval of the issuance of the Budding Permit authorization for the Shepherd of the Valley Lutheran Church addition. VOTE: Yes, 7'; No, 0. Mr. Kelley commented that the landscape plans were complete. 5. Continuation of Public Hearing for Rezoning and Preliminary Plat for Carrollton 5th Addition. PH, RER LOCATION Between Haven Drive and C. R. 1142, West of 147th St. PREL PLA PETITIONER Carrollton Development, Inc. CARROLLI 5th ADD Mr. Kelley explained /reviewed issues that were brought forward& °at the Public Hearing bn 20, 1988. He reviewed the items that will be considered at a public hearing scheduled for May 18, 1988, to consider changes to the Comprehensive Plan to allow the Planned Development zoning . to be amended: 12 single family lots (changed area zoned for institution /mulr to allow for single family; Outlot A designation changed from small lot sing family, inst /multiple residential uses to allow quasi —civic center uses (includin an armory); Outlot B to be changed from institutional /multiple residential to allow commercial uses with special performance standards Chair Erickson indicat he felt he was somewhat misinformed at the April 20, 1988 meeting when told by a City Council Member that an�armJgq E$ilt.in;AV__would not be in conflict with any proposals in towns and five days 'after the meeting it was officially announced b the National Guard that they would be building an armory in RosemountChaiY' r ciffa that the National Guard is also very interested in building an armory in Apple Valley, Itswould be up to five years before an armory would be constructed and the total dollar expenditure is uncertain. Over seventy percent of the time, the Armory could be used for community purposes. Mr. Carlson indicated that he has no objection to the concept of bring an Armory into the Community, but as a result of the proposed location, he does not approve of the concept of further commercial development down along CR #42 - -- -this would become strip zoning, as is happening on Cedar Ave. How far are we willing to allow commercial along CR 1142. -- The intersection of Gardenview Drive and CR 1142 needes to be redeveloped. Mr. Carlson expressed great concern over the "creepiness of this kind of activity which would ultimately result in strip development." Discussion followed and the comment was made that perhaps more restrictive zoning for commercial would be appropriate in that area. Ms. Sterlin questioned why couldn't Outlot Bbe multiple since the appearance of an Armory is similar to a school. Mr. Felkner commented that it seems as is the entire driving force of the requested zoning changes is the idea of an Armory. Witb it probably being five years before it is built, action being taken to accom at this building could be incorrect especially in the National Guard changes its mind. Mr. Carlson raised the issue of the capacity of Hayes Road and its ability to handle the high volume of traffic in the near future. Hayes Road is designed to PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES May 4, 1988 1 Page 3 handle 4 -8,000 vehicles per day and should be adequate for projected future use. Mr. Carlson indicated that he would rather see Outlot B as multiple residential rather than Limited Business 1. Mr. Winkler explained that at the Armory the Fire Station would be expanded and a common wall would separate it from the Armory. This would become the City's emergency center. The concern was not so much the allowing of an Armory, but the proposed use of Outlot B. Mr.. Kleckner indicated that he felt an Armory would be as attractive or more so. than the existing fire station. He felt a limited business use could be a smaller generator of traffic than multiple, and that the facility certainly could be very attractive. Mr. Carlson asked when. do we stop the strip development and HOLD FIRM to what has been decided. Mr. Winkler indicated that he felt the fire station and Armor; are very intense uses of an area and this backs up his request to put commercial on the other piece of property which is. so screened by the trees. He would not want to put multiple next to a fire-;station and Armory - -he could have difficulty renting his units. Chair Erickson indicated that he does not feel multiple is out of line in that Outlot B location. Mr. Carlson cited the example of single family homes being built next to gravel pits (noise). The acquisition of land for the Armory would be the City's responsibility and at that point: in time the National Guard would commit to building it. It is felt the City has the financial: ability make this commitment. Ms. Sterling was told that Park Dedication would be Cash in Lieu with none of this money being used for the land acquisition. The National Guard is adamant about being on the CR #42 corridor. Mr. Winkler explained. that his request is for Retail Business and he feels that Limited Business l is .really offices and these belong in the office park complex, Mr. Winkler indicated - he bo know about.his requests as soon as: possible because of the need, to know the size of the pond (zoning on the corner property would dictate, the, size of the pond); but Mr. Gordon did not feel this would dictate the size of the pond. Mr. Carlson voiced his opinion that he has the feeling of some "frustration"- - he would like to know about some of these ideas (example, the Armory) before the get to the point of where this issue is. He feels that it has been laid out that the City wants an Armory in that location. He would like to be clued in periodically in advance prior to see a proposal of this magnitude formally. Specifically, it would have helped to have seen the memo from City Administrator Thomas Melena regarding the Proposed National Gurad Armory prior to the meeting this evening. This Public Hearing was continued by Chair Erickson. I PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES May 4, 1988 Page 4 6. Consideration of Preliminary Plat for Diamond Path 12th Addition. LOCATION Northwest.- of Embassy Ave. and Embry Path. PREL PL PETITIONER Wensmann Homes, Inc. DIAMOND PATH Mr. Kelley presented the petition for consideration of Preliminary 12th AD Plat for Diamond Path 12th Addition for 18 townhome lots - -three 4 -unit structures and one 6 -unit structure to be served by a private street off of Embassy Ave. Outlot A will be owned by the new Diamond Path 12th Association but Emerald Point and Diamond Path 5th Associations will have easement agreements. The associations are satisfied with this land ownership agreement.. MOTION: of Kleckner, seconded by Peterson, to recommend approval of the Prelimi- nary Plat for Diamond Path 12th Addition.. - VOTE: Yes, 7; No, 0. - - MOTION: of Sterling, seconded by Carlson, recommend approval of the Building Permit Authorization for Diamond Path 12th Addition. VOTE: Yes, 7; No, 0. 7. Consideration of Planning Commission Mission Statement. The Mission Statement of the Planning Commission was reviewed by PC A_ ki the Members resent. Mr.. Welsch ex STATEMEA p pained that Item 5, "the Commission would look at public and private buildings to use materials that -- would last the life of the.building- -for example, heating elements to last as,lcng as possible. Mr. Carlson.pointed out that part of the duty of their Commission is that the type of development allowed makes sense finacialiy to the City- -for example, gravel operations south of CR X142 would be covered by Item 3. All Commission members felt this was an excellent statement as prepared by Mr. Welsch. This statement can be updated at an annual meeting as well as the bylaws. Chair Erickson indicated he would not hesitate to request updating. MOTION: of Carlson, seconded by Kleckner, to recommend approval of the Planning Commission Mission Statement as submitted. VOTE: Yes, 7; No, 0. _ Discussion followed as to the Planning Commission members feeling at times as if they just rubber stamp proposals and at other times when they really do not feel something is appropriate and the City Council votes to approve without any real discussion between the two boards if the Commission is justified in spending their time on these issues. Mr. Welsch explained that Mr. Melena is working with the members of the City Council so that the recommendations from the Planning Commission are taken objectively. Some issues are of a political - nature which Staff cannot answer and this becomes a different matter. May 19 Meeting with the City Council: Discussions in some detail will be on Armory; Sand and Gravel Operations; Design of Government Center; Transportation Study. Mr. Welsch gave a brief synopsis of the last City Council Meeting April, 14, 1988 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES May 4, 1988 ` ) Page 5 8. Update on Comprehensive Plan Revisions Related to Sand and Gravel Mining Operations. (verbal) Mr. Welsch indicated that he has compared a good share of the ordinances of surrounding communities and will have a synopsis for the Commission members soon. He explained that he feels most ordinances are good, but could be more stringent. Mining terms should be defined. He also used the national APA Repor on Sand and Gravel in his study. MAY 11 WORK SESSION POSTPONED 9. Continuation of Public Hearing for Capital Improvements Plan. MOTION: of Carlson, seconded by Peterson, to Table the continuation of the Public Hearing for Capital Improvements Plan. DISCUSSION: This continues to be postponed because Staff is continuing to look for some way of projecting funding sources. It should be adopted by July 1, 1988. VOTE: Yes, 7; No, 0. 10. Other Items. a. Mr. Kleckner indicated he is scheduled to be out of town on May 19 & 20, but will try to rearrange his schedule. b. Mr. Carlson stated that he is starting to see some residential areas in Apple Valley looking worse than the commercial areas - -all kinds of vehicles parked all over, etc: - -AV is starting to look BAD in some areas. The City Attorney is designing a domestic ordinance and request has been mad for a Code Enforcement Officer. 11. Adjourn. MOTION: of Gowling, seconded by Peterson, to adjourn the meeting at 9:28 p.m. VOTE: Yes, 7; No, 0. APPROVED SECRETARY