HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/21/1988CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
AMENDED PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 21, 1988
(With Corrections As Approved On 10 -5 -88)
1. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular monthly meeting of the City of Apple Valley Planning
Commission was called to order at 7:33 p.m. on September 21, 1988 at the.
Apple Valley City Hall by Chairman Robert Erickson.
Members Present: Chairman Robert Erickson; Members Richard Carlson, Alan
Felkner, Marcia Gowling and Virginia Sterling. Members absent: Phillip
Peterson and Frank Kleckner.
Staff Present: Lon Aune, Keith Gordon, Rick Kelley, Meg McMonigal, Dennis
Miranowski and Dennis Welsch.
Others Present: See sign in sheet.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: The agenda was approved as submitted.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 7, 1988 MEETING: The minutes were
amended by Chairman Erickson. On page 1, paragraph 12, by noting that
"Chairman Robert Erickson noted in the record that Judeen Smith Lucente
had submitted a letter in which she expressed concern regarding the
condition of the buildings and the site plan approval process. Chairman
Erickson asked Mrs. Wensmann whether the concerns expressed by Ms. Lucente
had been resolved. Mrs. Wensmann acknowledged that the concerns Ms.
Lucente had presented were resolved and there were no further problems."
A second change on the minutes of September 21st was requested by
Member Gowling who suggested that sentence one of the paragraph read "Mr.
Holmes stated that the homeowners association had been concerned about the
site and have thought about purchasing it. Previously a neighborhood
member had attempted to purchase the land with no result."
MOTION: Carlson, seconded by Member Felkner to approve the minutes
of September 21st with the two amendments as stated by Members Erickson
and Gowling. The motion carried unanimously.
4. CONSENT AGENDA: No items were presented.
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Conditional Use Permit for Parking Lot for Centel.
LOCATION: Southwest Corner of Garden View Drive and Walnut Lane.
PETITIONER: Centel Company. '
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal provided a background report dated
September 21, 1988 in which she described the request for a temporary
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parking lot to be placed on a vacant, residential lot at the corner of
Walnut and Garden View. The Planning Staff recommended approval of the
conditional use permit request.
Chairman Erickson asked for clarification regarding past performance
by Centel on the site. A Centel representative stated that Centel would
use the site for a 60 to 90 day period in which time employees would be
temporarily relocated from a Burnsville office to this site while the
Burnsville office was being renovated.
Member Sterling asked whether homeowners adjacent to the project
approved of the project. The homeowner who lived next door to the parking
lot was not present. However, Margaret Bonin, 121 Garden View Drive,
stated she opposed the proposal because cars and trucks park on the
boulevard lawn and Centel does not fix up the adjacent lawns after the
parking has been completed. She stated that when vans park adjacent to
the curb, they park on the boulevard grass; especially in the winter and
spring. She questioned the procedure of moving employees in and out as
they have done a number of times in the past. She noted that vans are
currently a problem regarding parking on Walnut Lane because the vans park
on both sides of the street, severely narrowing the driving surface. She
noted that the lot is not maintained when the trucks leave the site. She
stated that the lot should be used for permanent parking and all vehicles
should be required to park within the parking lot, not on the street.
City Staff explained that the property owner of the site is Tom
Reese, who does not want permanent parking placed on his lot.
Chairman Erickson asked what additional parking requirements would be
available for this site and could they be enforced retroactively. The
Staff responded that there are no additional parking requirements for
retroactive enforcement, however parking requirements can be placed in the
conditional use permit as they relate to the site onto which the proposed
conditional use permit would be placed.
Centel's representatives stated that for the long term, the company
could add additional parking on the same site with the Centel building,
but would require setback variances in order to park in front of the
building.
Planner McMonigal stated that there were two issues being discussed:
1) a request for the temporary 60 to 90 day parking project and 2) a
request for a long term parking solution on the street and on the lot.
Centel representatives stated they would approach owner Reese with a
proposal for a year long off - street parking lease or permit. Sue Knight,
owner of property at the corner of Walnut and Garden View, stated there is
a long lapse of time between the use of the site and repair of the turf
afterwards. Vans and cars continue to park on Walnut instead of using the
parking lot.
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Chairman Erickson asked if Centel could work with its employees to
park within the lot and not on the street. Centel responded affirma-
tively. Centel noted if the proposal were approved, 15 to 30 people would
be moved to the site on a temporary basis after the parking construction
has been completed. Centel representatives noted that they will work with
their staff to resolve the long -term parking problems on the site as well.
Member Carlson asked Centel if there were no conditional use permit issued
would Centel move to another location. Centel responded affirmatively.
Mrs. Bonin asked the commission to work cooperatively with Centel to solve
the van parking problem.
The hearing was closed.
Chairman Erickson explained that there was a controversy revolving
around the long term parking issue and not necessarily the short term
issue. He asked City Planner Kelley how many neighbors had been notified
of the hearing. Kelley responded 38 had been notified by mail. Member
Sterling urged that the project be acted upon this evening in order to
solve the parking problems before winter and snow set in.
MOTION: It was moved by Member Gowling, seconded by Sterling to
recommend approval of conditional use permit for Centel temporary parking
with the condition that Centel work with the City Staff to refine the use
of the site and require employees to park on the site and to reseed the
site when Centel is done using the site. The motion carried unanimously.
6. LAND USE /ACTION ITEMS:
A. Consideration of Building Permit for Apple Valley Apartments.
LOCATION: Southeast Corner of County Road #11 and 140th Street
Adjacent to Lake Alimagnet.
PETITIONER: H & Z Partners.
Chairman Erickson noted that a public hearing had been held in the
past on this project and that the purpose of the discussion this evening
was not to open another public hearing, but rather to review the building
and site plan for the Apple Valley Apartments and to make a recommendation
regarding issuance of the building permit.
City Planner Rick Kelley provided a Staff background report of
September 21, 1988 in which he explained that the project site had been
revised to include 2 - 36 unit, 3 story apartment buildings with a revised
building height elevation of 35 feet. He noted that a grading plan
purposed creating a ponding area in lieu of the small marsh which
currently exists because a pond was necessary to control the volume and
flow of runoff into the lake as per the City's storm water management
plan. Planner Kelley described a summary of the discretionary EAW and the
Staff recommended approval with seven conditions as listed in the report
of 9- 21 -88.
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Joe Christensen, attorney representing H & Z Builders, illustrated a
colored rendering of the elevation of the building. The building exterior
would be brick and vinyl siding and the roof line would be lowered by
design of a mansard roof instead of a gabled roof.
Chairman Robert Erickson acknowledged receipt of a legal brief on the
zoning of this and stated that he will turn the legal brief over to the
City Planning Staff for review by the City Planning Staff and City
Attorney in time for a recommendation to the City Council at its October
6, 1988 meeting. He noted that the Planning Commission will not review or
discuss the legal brief as it is not germane to the issuance of the
building permit itself.
Member Sterling provided a background history on zoning that has been
attached to the site; including a 1973 multi - family zoning, a 1977 single -
family R1 -C zoning and a 1978 request and approval of a multi - family M -2
zoning. She stated that she was generally opposed to apartments adjacent
to a single family project, but understood that the landowner had rights
to utilize the site for its multi - family zoning classification. Chairman
Erickson noted that a difference between 65 and 72 units; depending upon
which multi - family zoning class is utilized would not be a substantial
difference from either the code or the comprehensive plan.
Member Gowling noted that townhouses would be more compatible on this
site than apartments. Member Carlson stated that it is always difficult
to place apartments near the single family units, but he recognized the
City's needs to provide alternate sources of housing throughout the
community. Member Sterling noted that the best approach to building
apartments adjacent to single family homes is to build the apartments
first, then later begin construction on the single family homes. Member
Felkner noted that the ultimate end use decision for the neighbors
regarding compatibility of uses would be to ask the courts to review the
case.
Ed Holmes, 8921 138th Street Court, representing the Lake Alimagnet
homeowners association, provided a video tape of three (3) H & Z apartment
projects and suggested that the Planning Commission pay particular
attention to the compatibility issues adjacent to the structures. Bob
Substad, 1805 Victoria Lane, illustrated two (2) apartment projects in the
video; including Lexington Apartments in Eagan, Drexel Apartments in
Bloomington and the proposed site for the 2 - 36 unit buildings as seen
from 138th Street Court.
Chairman Erickson thanked the neighbors for the video presentation
and noted that the developer must still submit a complete landscape plan
which has to be installed as approved in the plan. Member Gowling asked
if H & Z would control the maintenance and upkeep on the rental site. Mr.
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Bob Hengel of H & Z Builders stated that he had no control over the Drexel
site in Bloomington, but that he would have complete control over the site
on 140th Street in Apple Valley.
Ed Holmes, 8921 138th Street Court, stated that Apple Valley should
have more apartments available but in this particular case there is no
buffer between the single family homes and the apartments. A buffer
should be townhouses or condominiums and then apartments. He noted that
the zoning code refers to harmonious relationships between existing
houses, the environment, the lake, the park and apartment buildings. He
stated that the building should follow the natural contours of the land.
Currently, the building requires extensive grading which is not, in his
opinion, proper planning. He noted that the Ml zoning is in compliance
with the comprehensive plan and the site could not support 65 units. City
Planner Kelley described the reason why 65 units would be allowed on the
site even if the zoning were M -1. It related to the zoning density
bonuses provided for the specialized type of construction. Mr. Holmes
noted that the comprehensive plan allows for up to six units per acre and
that the current project exceeds the requirements of the comprehensive
plan.
Brad Blackett, 457 Reflection Road, asked for clarification regarding
the grading plans and the vegetation plans for the new site. He expressed
concern about the vegetation and the shoreline, as well as the root zone
around the existing trees. Mr. Blackett suggested there needed to more
landscape improvements. Chairman Erickson referred Mr. Blackett to the
seven conditions enclosed in the Planning Staff report which dealt with
site planning, grading and landscaping. City Planner Kelley noted that
the specifics of the recommendation would be required to the issuance of a
building permit. Mr. Blackett illustrated two slides of an apartment
project on Thomas Lake in Eagan noting that the roof line was 45 feet in
height above the lake and that two stories of the building were clearly
visible above the vegetation from the lake.
A general discussion ensued regarding the need for a definition of
buffering single- family homes from other uses. Member Sterling asked for
clarification regarding the cost of the rental units as proposed. Mr.
Hengel stated that the two bedroom units in Apple Valley will rent for
$620.00 to $645.00 per unit and each resident will pay their own heat
costs. A one bedroom unit would cost $525.00. He also noted that garbage
trash masters would be placed in the basement of the tuck -under garage
area until such time as the trash is picked up by a garbage truck. Member
Sterling requested further information on the differences between a brick,
vinyl and aluminum sided building.
Member Gowling expressed concern about grading and landscaping and
asked how the park land adjacent to the site will be regraded and existing
shoreline and trees be retained as much as possible. Mr. Christensen
noted that the City will actually construct the pond and that the City
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will construct or supervise. Member Gowling requested information
regarding the pathway system and the mud that currently drains over the
site. City Engineer Keith Gordon explained that with a regrading of the
site and the park areas, as well as the pond, much of the muddiness found
along the park pathway system would be resolved.
MOTION: It was moved by Member Carlson, seconded by Member
Sterling to recommend approval of the site plan and issuance of a building
permit with seven staff conditions as stipulated in the staff report of 9-
21-88. The seven staff conditions stipulated were as follows:
1. Reduction of the building height to comply with the 35 foot
maximum of the "M -2" zone.
2. Construction of a right -turn only driveway access to 140th
Street in the north area of the parking lot to provide an
additional emergency vehicle access. This access will
necessitate the relocation of 3 parking stalls.
3. Dedication of a trailway easement abutting City property in the
southeast corner of the lot (as per preliminary plat approval).
Construction of an asphalt pathway on this easement from 140th
Street to the existing pathway in Sunset Park. This easement
will necessitate the relocation of at least 2 parking stalls.
4. Final pond design and discharge to be reviewed and approved by
the Dakota County Soil and Water Conservation District. The
pond shall be constructed as the first phase of site grading
activity.
5. Final detailed landscape plan to be submitted and reviewed by
Staff, including the Dakota Soil and Water Conservation
District, to reestablish to the maximum extent feasible a
wildlife habitat at the south end of the ponding area.
6. Final detailed erosion control plans to be reviewed and approved
by the Dakota County Soil and Water Conservation District. On-
site inspection services also to be provided by the Dakota
County Soil and Water Conservation District.
Any abandoned wells discovered on site to be sealed in
accordance with accepted procedure.
Member Sterling noted that she would vote in favor of this project because
it was in compliance with the zoning. Member Carlson stated that #7
should be clarified to note that the wells will be capped in accordance
with regulations of the Minnesota Health Department. The motion carried 4
to 1 with Members Felkner, Carlson, Sterling and Erickson voting in favor
and Member Gowling voting opposed.
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A ten minute break ensued.
B. Consideration of Building Permit for Medical Office Building.
LOCATION: 7631 - 145th Street West.
PETITIONER: Dr. Edward Kuch.
City Planner Rick Kelley presented the staff report for the
consideration of a building permit for medical office building located at
7631 - 145th Street West next to the Ameli Clinic. It was recommended
that the building permit be approved subject to the following nine
conditions:
1. The driveway isle should be 24 feet wide.
2. A hammer head turn around shall be built on the north side of
the parking lot.
3. A minimum of 28 parking stalls shall be provided.
4. Five additional flowering crab trees be planted between the
parking lot and the west lot line.
5. Concrete curb and gutter shall be installed on all sides of the
parking lot; including a valley gutter where the driveway ties
into 145th Street West.
6. The driveway curb radius shall be 15 feet at its intersection
with 145th Street West.
7. Revised site and landscape plans illustrating numbers 1 through
6 proceeding shall be submitted with a formal building permit
application. These plans should reflect the deletion of the
(future) building and the parking area and should identify the
existing ponding easement over the property.
8. A detailed grading and drainage plan shall be submitted to and
approved by the City Engineer.
9. A revised site plan shall be submitted showing an additional 30
feet added on to the building to the north, as well as the
additional parking that goes with the increase in the building
size.
MOTION: A motion made by Felkner, seconded by Carlson was to approve
the building permit authorization for Lot 2, Block 8, Valley Commercial
Park, 2nd Addition, subject to the nine items listed in the staff
recommendation. The motion carried 5 - 0.
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C. Sketch Plan Review for Residential Subdivision ( Gangl's
Estates).
LOCATION: Northwest Corner of Galaxie Avenue and 130th Street
West.
PETITIONER: Bernard Gangl.
City Planner Rick Kelley presented a staff report dated September 21,
1988 for a sketch plan for a 4 to 5 lot residential subdivision titled
Gangl's Estates. In addition to the staff report, City Planner Kelley
recommended that an fee be collected with each building permit for the
future installation of a pathway along Galaxie Avenue. Chair Erickson
questioned the access to the property and was told the lots would have
access to 130th Street, as that is a local access street. Mr. Gangl
indicated that he has had a 4 lot plat drawn up in which each lot has
access to 130th Street. Commissioner Sterling asked what the lot widths
would be and was told that they would be 80 to 82 feet wide and that the
depth would be 130 to 135 feet. Commissioner Carlson asked where the
utilities would come from. City Engineer Keith Gordon indicated that
utilities are in the boulevard of 130th Street and the City might want to
put in sewer to the north at this time in order to serve the Wachter
property.
Norm Wachter, the owner of the property to the north, was present at
the meeting. He indicated that he wants to subdivide, but has had some
complications in working it out. Keith Gordon indicated that the City
assumes the Wachter property will develop in the future, and would like to
make provisions for utilities for that property now if the Gangl property
develops. The sewer will likely be in the Galaxie Avenue boulevard. Mr.
Wachter indicated that he wants a fire hydrant in the area. Mr. Gangl
asked who would be assessed for serving the Wachter property. The Gangls
have already been assessed along 130th Street.
City Planner Kelley described the blister that he recommends along
Galaxie Avenue. Mr. Wachter indicated that they now have an apron in from
Galaxie Avenue and asked whether he can have two driveways off of Galaxie
Avenue. Kelley indicated that for safety reasons, the City does not want
individual driveways onto Galaxie and this is why the blister cul -de -sac
is suggested. Discussion continued on the location of the blister
cul -de -sac. City Planner Kelley indicated that because of the Gangl's
house, the access issue needs to be resolved at this time. Commissioner
Carlson suggested that discussions about the access need to be carried on
at the staff level and would like the two property owners to work together
with City Planner Kelley and City Engineer Gordon to resolve these issues.
Regarding utilities assessments, City Engineer Gordon indicated that
deferment is a possibility for the assessments.
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D. Concept Discussion Regarding Fischer Housing Development
(Verbal).
LOCATION: Southeast Quadrant of 140th Street and Galaxie Avenue.
PETITIONER: Fischer Development Company.
The consultant for the Fischer interests, Pete Jacobson, presented a
preliminary concept for housing development and golf course. The golf
course would be an eighteen hole championship course with single - family
townhouse and apartment developments surrounding it. The golf course
would be an amenity that would create a residential environment with a
strong sense of open space. The market research showed that this area
would support 700 to 1,000 units. This plan concurs with those numbers,
but with increased acreage and decreased density.
The single- family development has access off of Galaxie Avenue.
There is a separate access off of Galaxie Avenue for the apartments on the
corner of 140th and Galaxie. Directly on the corner will be one large
apartment building with a street separating it from several, 10 - 12 unit
buildings. The plan shows apartments and townhouses along the industrial
areas to the south. Townhouses are placed along fairways to act as a
buffer to the industrial area. The clubhouse for the golf course would be
right next to the Central Maintenance Facility on 140th Street.
This development plan shows the golf course and housing extending
across 140th Street to the north. Findlay Avenue is extended all the way
to 140th Street. North of 140th Street is mostly single - family
development with townhouses on the corner of Johnny Cake Ridge Road and
140th Street. The golf course would be connected via a tunnel under 140th
Street - 12 holes would be on the south property and 6 holes on the north.
The club facility, as envisioned, would include an area for dining and
meetings. The plan for the golf course is to have the holes act as swales
to move water above ground to provide ponding areas and natural movement
for storm water.
Commissioner Gowling asked whether this would be a private or public
course. Mr. Jacobson indicated that right now they are uncertain, but it
will probably be private with several types of memberships available. It
is envisioned that the clubhouse could be rented out for conferences, etc.
Commissioner Carlson asked about the lot size, with Mr. Jacobson
responding that most single - family lots are 90 feet in width. Chair
Erickson asked about the price range. Mr. Jacobson indicated that on the
golf course, the single- family would be generally in the $180,000 to
$200,000 range. The townhouses on the golf course would be in the
$130,000 to $140,000 price range. The townhouses off of the golf course
would be approximately $85,000.
Commissioner Gowling asked which type of unit would be constructed
first. She suggested that the apartments be constructed first. Cva_ir �
EriickU01. son asked whether this would be a planned development and was told
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that it probably would be. Chair Erickson asked about the timing of the
development and Mr. Jacobson indicating that it depends primarily on the
timing of the extraction. He expects that within 5 to 7 years the area
could be totally built out. He believes it is a viable product and will
sell well because there is not a similar project like it in this area.
The next steps for this project would be a comprehensive plan amendment,
rezoning and a request for tax increment financing.
7. DISCUSSION ITEMS.
A. Council Action of September 8, 1988 and September 15, 1988
(Verbal Report).
City Planner Kelley indicated the action that took place on the
Carrollton 5th Addition. The City Council adopted all the Planning
Commission's recommendations with the exception of the appraising of the
four houses near the quad homes.
B. Zoning or Other Code Improvement Suggestions (Commission).
Commissioner Sterling asked if there were any apartment sites which
may have a zoning and comprehensive plan conflict. She was told they will
each be addressed as a part of the current process.
8. OTHER BUSINESS.
Chair Erickson indicated that he was contacted by Greg Kopischke of
the Parks Committee who would like to have a Joint Planning Commission and
Parks Meeting. The Planning Commission has determined that Tuesday night,
October 4th, would be an acceptable date. The Staff will inquire to the
Parks Committee to see if that is acceptable. A time was not set.
Chair Erickson said "thanks" for receiving the current Council
minutes.
Commissioner Sterling asked if the Staff could provide more infor-
mation on the legalities of changing zoning. The Staff indicated they
would provide some information.
9. ADJOURN.
At 10:52 Commissioner moved that the meeting adjourn. Commissioner
seconded it. The meeting adjourned at 10:52.