HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/09/1988CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
NOVEMBER 9, 1988
1. CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Robert Erickson at 7:37
p.m. in the City of Apple Valley Community Center, 14603 Hayes Road.
Members Present: Chairman Erickson, Members Richard Carlson,
Virginia Sterling, Marcia Gowling, Frank Kleckner and Alan Felkner.
Staff Present: Richard Kelley, Meg McMonigal and Dennis Welsch.
Others Present: See the sign in sheet.
2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA:
The agenda was approved as submitted.
3. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Chairman Erickson opened the following public hearings and requested
public comment:
Zoning /Comprehensive Plan Consistency Cases.
A. Case No.: 027
Project Name: Government Campus Site.
Street Address or Location: Northwest Corner of C.R. #42 and
Galaxie Avenue.
Proposal: Amend Comprehensive Plan from Limited Business (LB)
to Civic Center (CY); Change Zoning from Limited
Business (LB) to Institutional (P).
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal presented a background report dated
November 4, 1988 explaining the updates to the comprehensive plan and the
requested rezoning. The staff report recommended approval of both the
amendment to the comprehensive plan and the amendment to the zoning code.
Member Kleckner asked about ownership of the site and approval, as
necessary, from the County and City. Ms. McMonigal said both the City and
County were aware of the proposal and had no opposition.
Chairman Erickson opened the public hearing for public comment. Art
Eaton, 7882 - 280th Street, Randolph, Minnesota, asked for clarification
regarding the construction deadlines for the building. An unidentified
citizen asked for information regarding the gravel pits to the east of the
County Courthouse site. City Planner Rick Kelley provided some background
information regarding the agreements the City had with the Fischer gravel
operators regarding vacation of the site to the east of the government
center project site. No.further public comment was offered. Chairman
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Erickson closed the public hearing. Chairman Erickson then noted that the
Planning Commission will review the minutes and the staff report of this
public hearing at a future meeting and make a recommendation to the City
Council.
B. Case No.: 032
Project Name: Scottsbriar 3rd /Eastview Athletic Complex.
Street Address or Location: Southeast Corner of 140th Street W.
& Johnny Cake Ridge Road.
Proposal: Amend Comprehensive Plan for Mixed Residential
(D -III) to Park (PK); Change Zoning from Mixed
Residential (P.D. #342 Subzones 1 & 2) to Park
(P.D. #342 Subzone 3).
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal presented a report dated November 4,
1988 illustrating changes in zoning on Eastview Athletic Complex to uses
for park purposes only. Staff recommends approval. Member Frank Kleckner
questioned differences between zone 2 and zone 3. Chairman Erickson asked
for comments from audience. There were none. The public hearing was
closed.
Case No.: 040
Project Name: Saddle Ridge
Street Address or Location: 128th Street West Lying West of
Proposal: Amend
(D -II)
Zoning
Family
(R -1C)
Pennock Avenue.
Amprehensive Plan from Mixed Residential
to Single Family (D -I) and Park (PK); Change
from Neighborhood Commercial (NC) to Single
(R -1C) or Duplex (R -2) and from Single Family
to Institutional (P).
Chairman Erickson opened the public hearing. City Planner Rick
Kelley provided a background report dated November 4, 1988 in which he
explained the comprehensive plan designation as D -2, but used as a R -1C
zoning area. The staff report recommended amending the comprehensive plan
to D -1 for single - family housing. In addition., one portion of the site
which is zoned R -1C ( Outlot B) should be rezoned "P" for Park. Outlot A
is currently zoned "NC" and should be rezoned to R -1C or R -2. Mr. Kelley
noted that the size of Outlot A is such that only three (3) single- family
homes or two (2) duplexes could be constructed on the site. Each of these
structures would have access only to Pennock Avenue and not to the Saddle
Ridge subdivision. Art Eaton, property owner of Outlots A and B,
explained that the property was the residual land left after a taking by
the Minnesota Department of Transportation for expansion of the Cedar
Avenue right -of -way. The parcel is approximately 350' by 115' in width.
Note that the property on the east side of Pennock Avenue, directly across
from Outlot A, will influence the ultimate use of Outlot A. If the parcel
east of Pennock develops for commercial purposes, then even duplexes would
be difficult to build on Outlot A. He suggested that redesignating Outlot
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A for any other use may be premature and recommended that the site be left
as it is without further zoning changes.
City Planner Rick Kelley explained that the property east of Pennock
Avenue is zoned for neighborhood commercial or for multi- family of up to
twelve (12) units per acre. Member Kleckner explained that at one time a
buffer had been constructed along the back of Lot 33 in order to provide
some visual screening between Outlot A and Lot 33. Member Sterling asked
for clarification on when this site was zoned for its current use.
Planner Kelley noted that in 1985 the site carried a "NC" on the compre-
hensive plan, but it now carries both a multi - family and a "NC" use
because it has no direct access to Cedar Avenue. The site is open and is
directly across from Outlot A. It was graded with fill and raised in
elevation approximately 30 feet. Kelley noted that there appeared to be
less opportunity for development of commercial uses because of the access
problem, but that a more appropriate use may be commonwall housing or
apartments.
Art Eaton, owner of the property on the east side of Pennock Avenue
which is directly across the street from Outlot A, stated that use on this
site is also premature and that commercial value is limited because of the
address and the limited amount of market area that the site would serve.
He stated that on this site attached housing or multi - family housing may
be the best; perhaps with a small convenience center. He noted that the
site was not appropriate for single- family housing.
Rick Owens, 7576 - 128th Street W., asked for clarification on the
designated uses for Lot 1 and Lot 33.
Robert Sanders 7659 - 128th Street W., asked for clarification about
future plans for the mobile home park. City Planner Rick Kelley noted
that the current comprehensive plan designation is D -2, 1 to 6 units per
acre. The zoning on the site is M -4 for mobile homes. Kelley noted that
the site is too valuable in the long -term for mobile homes. He noted that
the mobile homes will remain in the M -4 zone unless the site is voluntar-
ily abandoned or converted to another use. Converting the site to another
use will be costly because it will require relocation of homes and people;
as well as upgrading the utility systems. Therefore, the expense of the
land and relocation will require a higher level of density on the site in
order to pay for these improvements.
Dave Phillips, 7638 - 128th Street W., asked for clarification
regarding the requirements for open space.
Joe Clifford, 7843 - 128th Street W., asked for clarification
regarding the dedicated land in Outlot A or Outlot B that was to be used
for a park. Frank Kleckner clarified which parkland was dedicated for a
park (Outlot B).
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Chuck Payne, 7625 W. 128th Street, asked Member Kleckner to explain
his relationship and knowledge of the Saddle Ridge site. Member Kleckner
stated that in the past he had bought land in the Saddle Ridge subdivision
and built homes for many of the residents.
Bob Ross, 7600 - 128th Street W., asked why this site was not fit for
multi - family housing if the Pennock Avenue and Zoo Road land (Wellington/
Palomino Ridge project) was recommended by the Planning Commission for use
as a multi- family site. Stated that he would encourage Mr. Eaton to wait
for further development of single - family homes since there are already
nine (9) housing units on this portion of Pennock Avenue. Mr. Ross also
stated he was in favor of single family homes replacing the mobile home
park.
A general discussion ensued regarding the use of the land east of
Pennock Avenue and west of the Cedar Avenue right -of -way.
Chairman Erickson and City Planner Kelley were asked by members of
the audience to explain the purpose of apartment housing in community
development and the method of dispersion throughout the community. A
general discussion of the perimeters for apartment housing ensued.
Members of the audience suggested that the best location for mixed use and
apartment housing was south of 140th Street. Several members of the
audience suggested that the reason for utilizing sites adjacent to Saddle
Ridge for neighborhood commercial or multi - family housing was that the
area is now considered a desirable place to live with high valued homes.
The high value homes have created a better market for multi - family housing
adjacent to it. The neighbors questioned what the multi- family housing
would do to the single family homes.
Member Sterling asked for clarification regarding the disposition of
the 115' by 350' Outlot A. She asked whether the Outlot could be
developed today, but be nonconforming with the eventual uses of the mobile
home park.
Art Eaton stated that he has no plans to develop Outlot B at this
time. He noted that the property taxes on the site are currently accept-
able but that the assessments on the site are very expensive. In the
future, he would like to build a small rental project similar to the pro-
ject proposed at the Zoo Road and Pennock Avenue (Wellington - Palomino
Ridge project). He noted that retail space would not work on this site
because of the steep slopes. Mr. Eaton stated that housing to be placed
on the site would have to be tuck -under type housing with living units
above the garage. This would allow for 3 to 4 units of a townhouse
variety. Member Kleckner noted that such townhouse development would be
better than having the mobile home park expand to this site.
Bill Milon, 7840 - 128th Street W., asked whether the Outlot A site
would be large enough for a convenience store with adequate parking.
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Chairman Erickson responded that at this time no proposal for a conven-
ience center has been submitted. There was no further public comment.
Chairman Erickson closed the public hearing. No action was taken by the
Planning Commission. However, Chairman Erickson noted that the issue will
be on the agenda of the Planning Commission ready for recommendation on
December 7, 1988 or later.
D. Case No.: 048
Project Name: Christian Science Church Property.
Street Address or Location: Southeast Corner of Cedar Avenue
and 145th Street West.
Proposal: Amend Comprehensive Plan from Mixed Residential
(D -III) to Church (CH) and Mixed Residential (D -11).
Chairman Erickson opened the public hearing on the Christian Science
Church request. City Planner Rick Kelley provided a background report
dated November 4, 1988 explaining the comprehensive plan designation of
D -III and the zoning designation of R -1C and P. The church currently uses
the residential property for church purposes which is compatible with City
policy. The City proposes to change the comprehensive plan to "CH" and to
"D -II" for the residential site. The staff report recommended approval of
the amendments to the comprehensive plan and the zoning code.
Chairman Erickson asked for public comment. Art Eaton asked for
clarification regarding the ownership of the parcels. No further public
comment was offered. Chairman Erickson closed the public hearing.
MOTION: A motion was made by Member Felkner, seconded by Member
Gowling to recommend approval of the comprehensive plan amendment for the
Christian Science Church property from D -III to D -II and from D -III to
"CH ". The motion carried unanimously.
OTHER DISCUSSION:
Member Sterling asked if there were other areas within the community
where potential multi - family housing abutts single family housing areas.
She asked the Planning Commission and staff to review each of these areas
as potential conflicts and to add those to the zoning consistency study.
4. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.