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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
April 1, 1987
Minutes of the meeting of the Apple Valley Planning Commission held Wednesday,
April 1, 1987, at 7:30 p.m. at the Apple Valley City Hall.
PRESENT: Chairperson Robert Erickson; Commission Members Richard Carlson, Marcia
Gowling, Frank Kleckner, Virginia Sterling, Arleigh Thorberg. Staff
Members Rick Kelley and Keith Gordon. Twenty members of the public.
ABSENT: Phillip Peterson.
1. Chair Erickson called the meeting to order at 7:32 p.m.
City Clerk Mary Mueller conducted the Swearing -In Ceremony of Reappointed
Members Erickson, Thorberg, Kleckner and of the New Member Carlson.
2. Approval of Agenda.
Mr. Kelley suggested that Distribution of Packet regarding AGENDA
Senior Housing Meeting for April 7 be included under Item 11 -0ther Items- and
that 4a. Recognizing of Residents, Zoogate Rezoning be added to the agenda
for tonight's meeting.
MOTION: of Thorberg, seconded by Carlson, to approve the agenda as amended.
VOTE: Yes, 6; No, 0.
3. Approval of Minutes of March 4th and 18th, 1987.
MINUTES, MARC
Mr. Kleckner indicated that under Item 4, Linef15, March 4th 4th & 18th, '
Minutes - -he asked Mr. Winkler if the Carrolls would object to such
an action by the City and Mr. Winkler indicated there is no problem.
MOTION: of Thorberg, seconded by Sterling, to approve the Minutes of March 4,19
as clarified and the Minutes of March 18, 1987, as presented.
VOTE: Yes, 4 (Erickson, Kleckner, Sterling, Thorberg); No, 0;
Abstain, 2 (Carlson, Gowling).
4. Public Hearing for Rezoning to "R -1C" & Preliminary Plat,
Cherry Oak Estates.
LOCATION East Side of Cedar Avenue, 4 Mile South of
132nd Street.
PETITONER: Leet Wilson & Sherwood Hoel.
PH REZONING
TO R -1C &
PREL. PLAT
Chair Erickson opened the Public Hearing with the standard opening remarks.
Mr. Kelley presented the petition for rezoning from R -1A to R -1C and preliminary
plat for 45 detached single family lots. This proposal would yield a density of
2.2 dwelling units /acre, which is in the low range of the Comp Plan D -II
category. Mr. Gordon said that utilities are available to the Site. Access
would be via the Cedar Ave. frontage road on the east and from a new internal
road system, Georgia Drive, extended from Eagle Ridge Estates.Mr. Wilson indicat
they wish to begin the eastern phase of the project as soon as possible. He
told Mr. Carlson that he had not talked with ISD #196 regarding the holding
pond which abuts their property. Mr. Wilson said the topography of the area
will not change and that he would be bringing large rocks to place around the
pond. There will be no excavation at all.
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No one from the public wished to speak; therefore, Chair Erickson closed the
Public Hearing with the standard closing remarks.
4a. ZOOGATE COMMERCIAL PROPOSAL -- CITIZENS' REQUEST TO SPEAK.
ZOOGATE COMM.
Chair Erickson recognized Mr. Dan Davies, a resident of the PROPOSAL- -
area near the proposed Zoogate Commercial Proposal, who was CITIZENS' RE(
acting as spokesperson for a number of residents in the area
who were unaware of this proposal before reading about it in the
newspapers. Mr. Davies indicated that he realized their being able to speak
at a meeting other than the Public Hearing was certainly appreciated- -they woulc
have liked to have been heard at the Public Hearing to make known their i co n ncern:
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regarding the proposal. The citizens feel that is a unique area a
natural state of the property was what was planned for in the City's Comprehensi
Plan. They are concerned that the rezoning would permit the right to a con-
venience store and filling station. This is a real nature area abutting the
Zoo and with the Dakota County park on the other side. The Citizens (400 sig-
natures on a petition) would like the Planning Commission to reconsider their
recommendation to the City Council of Rezoning or Table this item because of
the high citizen interest on both sides of Johnny Cake Ridge Road.
Mr. Dave Evans indicated he and his wife moved into the area just after
Christmas and thought they were moving away from commercialism into a "rural"
area. He indicated concern that the initital approval had been given to the
rezoning request and that they have 400 signatures indicating the proposed
development would not be uited to the area. Mr. Evans lives within 350' of the
proposed development and was concrned he had not received notice of the Public
Hearing. The church, he indicated,-d not receive notice either. Chair Erick-
son indicated that the question of motel or hotel construction was not feasible
in that area because of the location of the property off from a major freeway- -
the property owner had received no interest in this type of development.
He indicated the Planning Commission felt the convenience store /filling station
would be an appropriate use since there seemed to be no interest in motel
facilities. The proposal is still at the Met Council and Mr. Erickson advised
this group to present their concerns to the City Council. Mr. Davies indicated
they do plan to go to the City Council because of the nature of the proposal an(
because there is such a trememdous response now that knowledge of the proposal
has been made public and especially since the Mayor has indicated he does not
want to have convenience stores, etc, every couple of miles (referring to
Mayor Branning's comments regarding a downtown Apple Valley). There already
is a convenience store within two miles in all four directions. Mr. Erickson
indicated at the Public Hearing the only comment was from a representative
of the Zoo indicating the Zoo would have like to have purchased that property
but was unable to because of financial restraints. Ms. Sterling indicated she
thought the Zoo was interested in having a service station so close in the
event assistance was needed by visitors- -this concern has been raised occasions:
by Zoo personnel. Mr. Evans indicated he talked with Zoo personnel and they
indicated gas stations within a two -mile radius was close enough. Ms. Shirley
Doering commented that the increased traffic using the convenience store and
gas station would be appropriate within a residential area. Ms. Sterling asked
their reactions to offices or apartments and Mr. Evans indicated he is strongly
opposed to commercial operations such as gas stations, convenience stores,
video stores, tanning salons, etc. going into that area - -these are not
environmentally pleasing as one enters the Zoo and is just driving in that area
Mr. Davies expressed concern that the Rezoning would first allow a filing
station and a convenience store but other businesses that have not even been
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Ms. Doering indicated her concern about the convenience store becoming a
hang out. Mr. Evans expressed concern about the surrounding environment in
regards to the Zoo, the Dakota County Park, etc. Mr. Davies indicated
the development of the area should be within the framework it is situated in --
for the good and convenience of the people around it and not just for the good
of Amoco, for example. The group once again thanked Chair Erickson for their
opportunity to speak.
5. Consideration of Preliminary Plat of Commercial Property.
LOCATION Between C. R. #42 and 151st St. W., 283 ft. East
of Galaxie Ave.
PETITIONER: C & D Properties.
PREL. PLAT,
COMMERCIAL
PROPERTY
Mr. Kelley presented the petition for consideration of a Preliminary Plat to
create three commercial lots sharing a common driveway. Variances will not
be needed for these parcels.
MOTION:. of Thorberg, seconded by Kleckner, to recommend approval of the
Preliminary Plat to create three commercial lots sharing a common
driveway, C & D Properties.
VOTE: Yes, 6; No, 0.
6. Consideration of Rezoning to R -lC
and Prelimimary Plat-- Foster's
Add.
LOCATION
West Side of Galaxie
Ave. at North City Limits.
PETITIONER
Anthony Foster.
REZONING R -1(
Prel. Plat,
Mr Kelley
presented the petition
for consideration of Rezoning
FOSTE ADD.
from A to R -1C and Preliminary Plat for 3 single family lots.
Ms. Sterling was told there would be a private easement arrangement with
property owners for driveway access.
MOTION: of Sterling, seconded by Gowling, to recommend approval of the
Rezoning to R -1C and Preliminary Plat, Fosters Addition.
VOTE: Yes, 6; No, 0.
7. Consideration of Setback Variance for Restaurant Expansion.
LOCATION 7620 150th Street W.
PETITIONER: PERKINS Restaurants, Inc.
SETBACK VAR.,
RESTAURANT E7
Mr. Kelley presented the petition for a variance from the 50 foot setback
requirement to build a solarium addition which would be facing CR 1142.
In 1977, Perkins requested and received a variance to construct the building
with a 40 foot setback. The volume of business is such that more seating is
needed; thus they do not intend for this addition to increase business, but
rather accommodate the current customers. The variance, if granted, would
allow this to be the closest commercial building to CR 1142. The Petitioner
presented drawings of their addition indicating the need to put it in the
requested location because to add on in a westerly direction would be too
expensive (roof beams, etc.) and it would not be economically feasible to
do this. He indicated their lines are excessive and they are seeking to better
serve their customers. They desire to remain the finest restaurant in AV and
the addition would give them a net increase of thirty seats. He indicated they
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are willing to berm and provide additional landscaping materials at the
direction of the City Council. The petitioner also presented a copy of a
letter from Mr. Craig J. Mines dated July 20, 1977, giving Perkins employees
the non- exclusive right to use approximately 16 parking spaces at the Northeast
corner of the Shopping Center blacktop for parking purposes.
Chair Erickson indicated his prime concern that there is a 50 foot setback
requirement from CR #42, Perkins is already located 40 feet from CR #42, and
they are proposing 30'. The petitioner indicated their volume of business is
such that the payback would just ifyraddition either to the front or back of the
business. Mr. Kleckner indicated that he shared Chair Erickson's concerns- -
Perkins is already 10' closer than the Ordinance permits and if they could
add on to the west they would not be losing any parking spaces. If this vari-
ance is granted, everyone else could expect similar treatment. Mr. Carlson
indicated an indication of hardship is required to grant a variance and
that the net result would be additional revenue for Perkins - -he does not see
a relationship to a hardship. Mr. Kleckner asked how many letters had been
given out by the developer, Mr. Mines, because this granting of 16 spaces to
employees distorts the parking situation for that entire development.
It was pointed out to the Petitioner once again the concern with being 20'
closer to the road than the variance allows and to grant this request could
set the stage for additional requests.
MOTION: of Gowling, seconded by Carlson, to recommend denial of the variance
request by Perkins Restaurant.
VOTE: Yes, 6; No, 0.
8_ Sketch Plan Review of Indoor Soccer Facility.
LOCATION: Northwest corner of Future Galaxie Ave. & Future
157th St. W.
PETITIONER: Alan Merrick & Marshall Oakes
SKETCH PLAN I
INDOOR SOCCEI
FACILITY
Mr. Kelley presented the sketch plan review for a proposed indoor soccer
facility which would require an amendment to the Comp Plan in that the area
is currently designated for a multiple residential use. Utilites are not
currently adjacent to the site. A memorandum from Park Director turban with
comments from the Park Committee was distributed. The Park Committee solidly
and unanimously supports the pursuing of an Indoor Soccer Complex, but there
are some areas of conern as indicated in Mr. Gurban's memorandum. Mr. Merrick
indicated their desire to provide a focal point that youngsters can go to and
play soccer. This facility could also be use by the VAA for sign -ups, year -
round soccer clinics could be held here, etc. The Strickers would look
favorably at this center. Chair Erickson indicated he is very excited about
the facility. The landscape architect for the project indicated it was not
their intent to layout the park, they were just showing a maze of fields to
give a scale to the park area. The relationship of the facility to the adjoin-
ing park land was discussed with Mr. Erickson indicating to Mr. Merrick he woul
like to see him work with Staff and Park Committee - -he feels this is a
marvelous idea to develop this soccer facility. Mr. Carlson was told by
Mr. Merrick if the City could not provide the adjacent park land /would still
go ahead with the facility. Chair Erickson indicated he would like to have
input from the City saying they have the money to purchase the land at
Mr. Winkler's cost (especially since development of a park east of Galaxie
was indicated to be 5 -10 years away).
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Ms. Sterling said that since multiple was indicated for this site, why on this
site rather than on the other side of Galaxie -- would it affect the entire
project if it were moved across the street with Mr. Merrick indicating there
is a willing land owner on this particular site.Mr. Kleckner feels the Soccer
Emporium would be a great attribute to the community and wondered if purchase
of the park land could be included with the park development going on now
from the bond issue with Chair Erickson saying that money voted on cannot be
diverted. Chair Erickson said he is behind this plan 100% with Mr. Thorberg
also agreeing 100% with the additional comment that if the Park Commitee could
get funding to purchase the park land it would be much safer to have the
two together rather than children crossing Galaxie between the playing fields
and the indoor complex.. Mr. Carlson is enthusiastic about this type of facilit;
in AV and feels the issues could be kept separate- -first would be the soccer
emporium and seconds the park. Ms.. Sterling feels this is a fantastic plan
and would like to see the soccer facility and park area connected. Ms. Cowling
indicated she feels the City should feel honored to have this facility and she
hopes it is developed. Discussion of parking, etc. to the site ensued and the
possibility of turning the entire facility around. Seating inside will be
minimal- -only several hundred seats.
9. Site Plan Review,.. Pinecrest Townhomes,
LOCATION Northeast Corner of Future C. R. #38 & 126th St. W
PETITIONER: Frontier Midwest Homes Corporation.
SITE PLAN RE`
PINECREST
TOWNHOMES
Mr. Kelley presented the Site Plan Review and Building Permit
Authorization petition for 32 towmhome dwelling units. This project received
preliminary approval in 1985. The plans are exactly the same as before.
MOTION: of Thorberg, seconded by Cowling, to recommend that the building
permit authorization be reapproved under the same conditions.
VOTE: Yes, 6; No, 0.
10. Consideration of Shoreland Setback Variance for New House.
LOCATION Just South of 13418 Pilot Knob Road. SHORELAND SE'
PETITIONER Richard Glewwe. BACK VAR., N.
HOUSE
Mr. Kelley presented the setback variance to Shoreland zoning ordinance
for a single family home as requested. The regulations require a setback of 50
from Pilot Knob Road, and 75' from the pond - -a house would not fit on this piec
of property with those setbacks without a variance. The reply from the
DNR, dated March 26, 1987, indicated their desire to see the house closer to th
road than the pond. This pond has a controlled outlot, so there should be no
problem with high water. The petitioner indicated this was not necessarily the
final layout of the house for the property. Mr. Erickson said this was a nice
location, but very tight. Ms. Cowling indicated she would like to see a plan
of the house that would fit into this property and be in agreement with the
DNR request. It was brought out this was a matter of aesthetics with the
DNR, that it vertically meets their requirements.
MOTION: of Kleckner, seconded by Thorberg, that in view of a hardship because
of previous zoning of the property, the recommendation is made that
a variance be approved to allow a 25' setback from the pond.
VOTE: Yes, 6; No, 0.
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lla. SENIOR HOUSING
Mr. Kelley distributed the packet of materials for the
SENIOR HOUSING MEETING
Tuesday, April 7, 1987
City Hall, 7:30 p.m.
12. ADJOURN.
MOTION
APPROVED
SENIOR HOUSI?
of Carlson, seconded by Kleckner, to adjourn the meeting at
10:30 p.m.
VOTE: Yes, 6; No, 0.
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