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CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
September 1, 2011
Minutes of the September 1, 2011 Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee.
PRESENT: Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee Chair Russ DeFauw; Committee Members
Cindy Hart, Brenton Schulz, and Lee Strom,; Parks and Recreation Director Randy Johnson;
Valleywood Manager Jim Zinck; Park Maintenance Superintendent Tom Adamini; Recreation
Superintendent Scott Breuer; Department Assistant Dorene Perkins Monn.
ABSENT: Darrell Retka, Patrick Sullivan, and Katherine Wright
ITEM 1.
Committee Chair DeFauw called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ITEM 2.
Approval of Agenda
MOTION: by Cindy Hart, seconded by Lee Strom to approve the agenda as
presented.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
ITEM 3.
Audience – 10 Minutes Total Time Limit – For Items Not on the Agenda
No one present to speak.
ITEM 4.
Approval of the Minutes for May 2011.
MOTION: by Lee Strom, seconded by Brenton Schulz to approve the May 5, 2011
meeting minutes as presented.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
ITEM 5.A.
Agenda Items – Introduction of New Youth Representative – Katherine Wright
Kate was appointed August 11, 2011 by City Council as Youth Representative of the Parks
and Recreation Advisory Committee. Director Johnson gave a brief introduction noting she is
captain of the high school swim team, attends Apple Valley High School and the School of
Environmental Studies, is a lifeguard at the Water Park of America, and has done volunteer
work in the community. Ms. Wright plans to attend the November Committee meeting.
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ITEM 5.B.
Agenda Item - Galaxie Park Update
Park Maintenance Superintendent Tom Adamini presented. The City’s Engineering Department
determined, through multiple methods of calculation, the only realistic answer to flooding that
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occasionally occurred along 136 Street during excessive rainstorms, was to lower the active area
of the park about five feet. Mr. Adamini noted that working with the Public Works and
Engineering has been a pleasure. Maintenance friendly items are being built into the park;
backstop with curbing, etc. The outfield soil mix has been changed to accommodate the sub-
surface drainage. Park Maintenance is pleased with the outcome.
Chair DeFauw noted several people had questions when the construction began, but were relieved
when they were told the ballfield and park would be renovated.
Director Johnson reminded that the grass was just seeded last week and will need a year to
become established. The field should be available in the Fall of 2012 or Spring of 2013.
ITEM 5.C.1.
Agenda Items – Cobblestone Lake – DNR Fishing Pier
The City has the opportunity to enter into a joint project with the Minnesota Department of
Natural Resources (DNR) for the installation of a fishing pier at Cobblestone Lake. The DNR
will provide the framework and components of the pier. The City will provide, at a cost of
approximately $2000, the lumber and in-house labor to build and install. Staff is recommending a
southwest location of the pier. If the Committee recommends proceeding with the project, Staff
will notify homeowners around the lake, invite them to the November Committee meeting, and
gather their input on the project. A representative from the DNR will be invited to the meeting
also.
Cobblestone is a public park and a public lake. The City owns land around the lake and trail
easements to the streets. The current pier is not conducive to fishing.
MOTION: by Russ DeFauw, seconded by Lee Strom directing Staff to place
Cobblestone Lake DNR Fishing Pier on the November meeting agenda, and issue
formal notice to the neighborhood of Cobblestone Lake that we are going to discuss
this, leading to a recommendation or non-recommendation of the structure.
DISCUSSION: Staff will follow the Planning Department’s guidelines on radius of
notification in regards to which homeowners are notified. Director Johnson will also
work with Traditions Development to place an article in their newsletter.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
ITEM 5.C.2.
Agenda Items – Cobblestone Lake – Existing Pier Replacement
Park Maintenance Tom Adamini presented this informational item. The pier was built by
Traditions Development before the City took possession of the property. It’s served its purpose
well; however, staff reports concerns with the structure’s shifting. The City Building Inspector
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has been monitoring the structure the last several years. This year he called in a Structural
Engineer. Report is included in the agenda packet.
This winter, after ice freeze, Staff is planning to work underneath to install brackets to the joist of
the walkway to connect and stiffen the rails. The Engineer recommends the roof/top be removed
from the gazebo. A little correction work on the 90 degree corner will also be done.
Committee member Hart asked if Staff has ever considered removing it. This is a structure the
City didn’t build and it’s in the city park. Park Maintenance Superintendent Adamini, noted that
with the corrections, it should be usable for some time yet.
Committee expressed support for the project.
ITEM 5.D.
Agenda Items – Valleywood Clubhouse Update
Director Johnson and Valleywood Manager Zinck presented an update on the new clubhouse
status. A project schedule of bid packages was provided in the agenda packet. The bids will be
broken into two packages. The first will be earthwork, footings, and foundations. The second
will include all other trades. With City Council approval, ground breaking is planned for late
October/early November. Staff has been meeting with architects and engineers to refine the
building plan. Staff is also working with the City Engineer to bring in the sewer line.
Russ DeFauw, Lee Strom, and Patrick Sullivan served on the Clubhouse Task Force that obtained
basic model/schematic designs to develop cost estimates. Surveys and soil borings have been
done. Specifications and plans will be done for the September bid package.
ITEM 5.E.
Agenda Items –2007 Bond – Park Maintenance Projects Update
Park Maintenance Superintendent Adamini reviewed reforestation, pathway overlays, court
resurfacing, playground edging, fence, and hockey rink projects. Projects listed are part of the
2007 bond referendum and are either complete or in progress to be completed soon. A more
complete list of projects is included in the agenda packet.
The reforestation projects have been coordinated with high school student groups and
local scouts working toward their eagle ranking. Staff provides the trees and
supervision/logistics and the scouts plant the trees.
Overlay examples were presented. In conjunction with Public Works fog sealing projects,
the pathways and basketball courts are being done in an attempt at extending their life.
An alternative product called Armor Crack Repair is being used on the tennis court
resurfacing.
Staff is attempting to simplify maintenance operations, by moving to plastic edging
around playgrounds that will be longer lasting.
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Fencing at JCPR will start as soon as the softball season ends. Once Huntington hockey
rink is complete, crews will be moving to the Galaxie Park hockey rink project.
The Committee was complimentary of the park system.
ITEM 5.F.
Agenda Items –Format and Location of Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee
Meetings
The Committee currently meets in the council chambers of the municipal center and recordings
are presented on Cable TV. Coming out of an extended period of controversy about disc golf at
Alimagnet, there was a feeling the Committee deliberations could be more transparent and could
involve the public more if the meetings were shifted to this venue and put live and taped on local
TV. It’s been a fairly quiet last couple of years as evidences by the empty room. Chair DeFauw
and Director Johnson have been thinking about reaching out to the Council about moving back to
the Community Center with the proviso that should there be an issue of strong community
concern, the Committee would be happy to move a regular meeting back to the council chambers
or schedule a special meeting here. It’s primarily a cost savings measure. The cost at the
community center is zero, the cost at the municipal center is nominal, but there is a cost.
The other things we lose is access to files and displays we have at the community center,
interaction in a more informal setting, and a more robust discussion when we’re not worried
about being on camera. This body does not create policy; it makes recommendations to City
Council.
On a consensus basis, Committee asked staff to draft a memo to City Council outlining the
thoughts and inquiring about their feelings about the Committee return to the Community Center,
as a cost savings measure, with the complete willingness to either move a meeting or schedule a
special meeting in the council chambers should a topic arise in the future that merits the expense.
ITEM 5.G.
Agenda Items –Pickleball Program
Director Johnson reported pickleball is a racket sport that’s becoming very popular. Pickleball
uses a plastic ball and wooden paddle. It’s very popular in the retirement communities of Arizona
and Florida. Pickleball is named after the inventor’s dog.
Indoor courts are set up at the Apple Valley Community Center and admission is $3 per person.
Staff has been asked to set up outdoor courts. The net is set at a similar height to tennis and
additional lines will be painted on the tennis courts to allow dual use at Hagemeister and
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Pennock. parks. A pickleball event is scheduled for September 24 at the Apple Valley
Community Center. Anyone interested in trying the sport is invited to attend.
ITEM 5.H.
Agenda Items –Aquatic Center – Extended Season Discussion
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As a result of Committee member Retka’s inquiry, included in the agenda packet was a memo
regarding the potential extension of the aquatic season to Labor Day. The 2011 season ended
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August 28. June was a tough month, July was an excellent month, August was a so-so month.
Recreation Supervisor Breuer’s memo outlines the logic, reasoning, and past practices of the
aquatic season.
Since opening in 1991, the aquatic center has closed the last Sunday in August. The number one
reason is safety. It takes many skilled/certified lifeguards to operate the facility in a safe manner
and so many of the young people employed have other interests, participate in high school
athletics, and/or are heading back to school that it becomes difficult to adequately staff the
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facility. Of the 66 lifeguards employed, approximately 2/3 of them were gone by the time the
season was closing down.
Committee member Strom asked if there has been any discussion about opening weekends
earlier. Mr. Breuer noted that the Apple Valley Family Aquatic Center has offered a preview
weekend each year the first weekend in June, then opens for the season once school is out. The
problem is the last week of the season. Colleagues in surrounding communities have the same
issues with staffing. 90% of the outdoor municipal pools close about the same time, if not earlier
than Apple Valley.
Committee member Hart questioned whether at hiring time if the City asks for a commitment
through the last weekend. Mr. Breuer responded that the City currently doesn’t hold employees
to an end date, since we have been able to manage making the facility operate through the last
Sunday in August, we have not had any standing agreement. That is something staff will
consider in the future if staffing levels are going to be a concern.
Committee member Schulz noted the weather reports indicate the coming week is supposed to be
rather cool which would reduce the attendance. Reports from 2008, 2009, and 2010 show during
the last week of August until Labor Day there has been only one day above 85° , a couple of days
in the 60’s. History has shown it’s a hit and miss weather pattern, with most of it being cool.
Staff estimates it could be upwards of an additional $50,000 expenditure to keep the facility open
another eight days with a potential of approximately $25,000 to $35,000 in revenue, resulting in a
net loss of $25,000. At a facility where it’s barely breaking evening, to take a $25,000 gamble, it
would have to be strong consideration.
Chair DeFauw suggested trying it for one year. Identify and get firm commitments from staff that
will be available through Saturday/Sunday of the Labor Day weekend. It makes sense to do it
only at the Aquatic Center. Try it for one year and assess the results, purely because of the
overall size and scope of the investment of the community. Voters were asked to build the
facility, they said yes. They were asked to approve the bond issue to add to the facility, they said
yes. It would be worthwhile to take a strong look at the extended season one year and assess the
results.
Director Johnson noted the City’s budget is done 18 months in advance and staff has already
submitted the 2012 budget and it doesn’t include an additional expenditure for the pool. A
practical solution, if the Committee agrees, would be to take a look at the possibility of adding the
Labor Day weekend of 2013, not the weekdays.
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Committee member Schulz noted it is dependent on the weather and he questioned whether
gambling $25,000 is responsible or not. He’s not in favor of it. Committee member Hart is not in
favor, unless we’ve gotten a lot of community demand. Director Johnson said there may be a few
phone calls, not a lot of overwhelming demand. As an alternative, staff typically directs them to
the splashpad area at Kelley Park or area lakes.
Committee member Strom noted that it will be dependent on the dates of Labor Day weekend and
the school calendars.
Staff is investigating a ranking system within the interview process that would elevate the
candidate’s priority category, assuming they meet all the skills requirements, etc., if they are
available to work through the end of the season. If the ranking system is implemented in the
interview process and staff gets feedback for the upcoming season from employees and
colleagues, then staff can come back next fall with additional information on the possibility of
extending the 2013 season.
Committee Strom complimented the Aquatic Center crew. He was on site several times this year
and they did a nice job. Director Johnson noted they won the metro area 2011 lifeguard
olympics. Many of crew members are Apple Valley residents.
ITEM 6.A.
Other – Minnesota Golf Magazine – Featured Member
Minnesota Golf Magazine Summer 2011 issue Featured Member section recognized Committee
member Darrell Retka and his volunteer efforts with the golf community. He is also an employee
of Valleywood Golf Course. A copy of the article included in the agenda package.
ITEM 6.B.
Other – Fall Brochure and On Line Registration Kickoff
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The Parks and Recreation fall brochure has been distributed to Apple Valley homes August 17.
This was also the kickoff of the on-line registration process. Staff reports the process has been
working well. A short demonstration of the registration site was presented.
ITEM 6.C.
Other – Next Meeting Date – November 3, 2011
Next Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting is scheduled for Thursday, November 3,
2011.
ITEM 7.
Adjourn
There being no further business, the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting was
adjourned.
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MOTION: by Lee Strom, seconded by Brenton Schulz to adjourn the meeting at
8:35 p.m.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
Respectfully Submitted,
Dorene Perkins Monn, Dept. Assistant
Approved by the Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee on
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