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CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
September 19, 2000
Minutes of the Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee held September 19,
2000.
PRESENT: Committee Chair Greg Kopischke; Committee Members Russ DeFauw
left at 7:20
, Charlies Maus, and Tina Rankin; Parks and Recreation Director
p.m arrived at 6:50 p.m
Randy Johnson; Police Captain Craig Anglin; Public Representatives Corinne
and Richard Johnson.
ABSENT: John DiRico.
ITEM #1.
Committee Chair Greg Kopsichke called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m.
ITEM #2.
Approval of Agenda.
MOTION: by Russ DeFauw, seconded by Charlie Maus to approve the
agenda as presented.
VOTE: Yes – 3, No – 0
ITEM #3.
Approval of June 2000 Minutes.
MOTION: by Charlie Maus, seconded by Russ DeFauw to approve the
minutes as presented.
VOTE: Yes – 3, No – 0
ITEM #4.A.
Alimagnet Gate Closing Policy
Richard and Corinne Johnson introduced themselves as residents living near the entrance
to Alimagnet Park. Mr. Johnson reviewed the memo sent to the committee members
outlining some of the behavior complaints received by the Parks and Recreation
Department regarding Alimagnet Park. He reported that five to six years ago, the police
started locking the gate each day at 10:00 p.m. and park maintenance unlocked the gate
each morning. This has helped alleviate some of the problems, but neighbors report it is
no longer working.
Due to some miscommunication, the park gate remained closed over the Labor Day
weekend. Mr. Johnson received a call from one of the neighbors, Lance Huston,
thanking the City of Apple Valley for keeping the gate locked. The same week, staff at
Apple Valley Community Center reported receiving a call from a resident complaining
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the park was not accessible over the weekend for a family picnic, because the gate was
locked.
Police Captain Craig Anglin noted that when the warm weather arrives in the spring,
young people tend to use the park in higher numbers. Police representatives met with the
park neighbors in August to assist in putting together a policy. A speed trailer will be set
up in the roadway, patrols will be stepped up, police officers are expected to increase
follow-up on complaints, and continue their diligence in locking the gate.
The Police Department’s follow-up to the neighborhood meeting is to work with the
Parks and Recreation Department to create a long-term solution. Other businesses in
Apple Valley are also experiencing the same type of issues. Congregation isn’t the
problem, it’s the inappropriate behavior that occurs at these gatherings.
Police reports indicate the number of police contacts since the August meeting have
remained about the same as prior months. One citation was issued for driver’s license
revocation and one arrest was made for an outstanding warrant. Both were incidental to
the park, not due to the park use.
Two other citations were issued January 1, 2000 to July 31, 2000: juvenile tobacco use
March 2000 and after-hours vehicle May 2000.
Mr. Richard Johnson reported that just last month he found a whiskey bottle and fast food
trash in the park. Trash is another of the neighbor’s concerns.
Ms. Johnson stated this is a hidden location, but the park users can see the police cars
come into the park. A major issue is the intimidation. There are adults that won’t go
down to the park. She relayed the report of a meter reader encountering a group of youth
while trying to do her job. They tried to intimidate her one month, and the next month
the meter was smashed.
Ms. Johnson said they want others to use the park, but don’t know of an alternative to the
problem other than locking the gate.
Mr. DeFauw suggested closing the park gate for the remainder of the season, try to re-
open in the summer of 2001.
Mr. Johnson reported that he has met with the Mayor and Councilmember Goodwin
regarding the issue. Both are opposed to locking the gate and the Mayor suggested the
use of video cameras in the park. The Police Department must work within a budget, and
major public safety problems come before litters and other non-emergency concerns.
MOTION: by Russ Defauw, seconded by Tina Rankin, recommending
closing the Alimagnet Park gate now through Summer of 2001
with re-evaluation of the issue in Fall of 2001.
DISCUSSION: Recognizing that the problem will not be eliminated, but moved
to another location that may be more easily monitored by Police.
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Chairperson Kopischke suggested the Parks and Recreation
Department may want to make signage notifying the park users
of the change in schedule.
Ms. Rankin stated there is nothing to stop the informal park users
from parking in the cul-de-sac near the park. Mr. and Ms.
Johnson believe the youth will not park there, it’s not secluded
enough.
Mr. Randy Johnson re-iterated that the gate closing policy could
change if it isn’t working well. The gate could be opened on a
regular basis again after an evaluation period. The winter will
not be an issue because usual procedure has been to lock the gate
and stop plowing the parking area.
When asked if there had been any contact with the high school
personnel, Captain Anglin reported that the liaison officer is
aware of the problem, and when he has had time, he has made a
pass through the park.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
Mr. Randy Johnson will take the recommendation to City Council. In the interim the
Police will continue their current policy of locking the gate at 10:00 p.m. and increased
patrols.
ITEM 4. B.
New Business – Joint Powers Agreement for Valley Middle Park.
Mr. Randy Johnson asked the committee to review their copies of a proposed joint
powers agreement between the City of Apple Valley and Independent School District
#196 for Valley Middle Park. Most of the park fields are owned by the School District
and the City of Apple Valley Maintenance Department has done the majority of field
maintenance without assistance from the District. Many years ago, previous Park
Director Jim Bell made an agreement with the School District that the City of Apple
Valley would operate a teen center out of the Valley Middle School and in exchange they
would maintain the athletic fields. The teen center has ceased to exist.
Mr. Johnson believes the new agreement will be a good one for the City of Apple Valley.
Major renovations and cost shares are outlined, what will be preformed by the Park
Maintenance Department and the School District in regards to field maintenance.
Miscellaneous wordage will be changed in the final agreement, i.e. City of Eagan will be
changed to City of Apple Valley. Ms. Rankin noted that the “hereinafter *Apple
Valley*” is not carried throughout the contract. The final sentence of paragraph number
X also needs to be clarified – This Agreement shall survive the termination of this
Agreement.
MOTION: by Tina Rankin, seconded by Charlie Maus to recommend Staff
and City Council proceed with the proposed Joint Powers
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Agreement with Independent School District #196 for Valley
Middle Development and Usage Site.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
ITEM 5.A
. Old Business – Cobblestone Park Update.
Staff have visited Centennial Lakes of Edina and Normandale Park of Bloomington.
Both park areas have been used by the developer in the description of a proposed site
development for the Cobblestone Development of Apple Valley.
The Edina Parks and Recreation Director reported the Centennial Lakes project was done
with TIF money. This option is no longer available. There was also a $7 million trust
fund for the park. He reports they cannot maintain the park with the trust fund interest
alone, the principle has been slowly eroding. He recommends assessing an extra fee to
the Association or City to help with the maintenance. It’s a mistake Edina didn’t include
inflationary costs into the figure. Revenue from boat rental, etc. is put back to the park.
Mr. DeFauw stated that it would be interesting to know the number of users, that don’t
live right on the park area. For comparison purposed, Centennial Lakes usage draws
from a larger market than the proposed Cobblestone development.
Chairperson Kopsichke suggested looking more closely at the Normandale and Como
Lakes area.
Mr. Randy Johnson reported that Community Development Director Rick Kelley has
discussed with the developer the possibility of an extra fee for park maintenance costs.
Staff will workout an approximate cost for a trail around the lake as a buffer zone for the
park users and property owners. The State park dedication requirements have been
reviewed with the city attorney. Basically, the City has cart blanche for park dedication
land. Current park dedication requirements for the development are approximately 31
acres at $20,000 per acre.
Staff is looking at linking the path with other city pathways and an underpass for access.
They feel the pathway around the lake is a good idea. The development needs to go
through an environmental study and this will be worked on over the winter.
Mr. Kelley may have more Cobblestone Development details for the November Parks
and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting.
ITEM 6.A.
Other – Apple Valley Family Aquatic Center Preliminary Summary Report.
The Aquatic Center experienced a cool and wet season. July and August numbers did
increase over the earlier June attendance. Revenue is close to staff projections. Staff
expects the next financial reports to reveal expenditures of only 85% for expenses.
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Committee members expressed interest in the comparison numbers for Eagan’s Cascade
Bay with the added amenity of the lazy river. Staff information indicates approximately
a 50% increase proportionately because of the lazy river and their fee structure. The
question of a lazy river for Apple Valley Family Aquatic Center has been previously
discussed. Construction of the Apple Valley Family Aquatic Center cost $3.4 million
and the addition of a lazy river is projected to cost approximately $1.2 million.
Committee Replacements: The City of Apple Valley is seeking Senior and Junior representatives
for the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee. Staff will place advertisements in the local
media and contact high school personnel for recommendations.
ITEM #7.
Adjourn.
There being no further business, the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting
was adjourned.
MOTION: by Charlie Maus, seconded by Tina Rankin to adjourn the
meeting at 7:40 p.m.
VOTE: Yes – 3, No – 0
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