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CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
January 16, 2001
Minutes of the Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee held January 16, 2001.
PRESENT: Committee Chairperson Greg Kopischke; Committee Members Russ DeFauw;
John DiRico, and Tina Rankin; Parks and Recreation Director Randy
Johnson;.Park Maintenance Superintendent Tom Adamini; Valleywood Manager
Rick Dodge; Community Development Director Rick Kelley; Bonestroo, Rosene,
Anderlik Representative Sherri Buss.
ABSENT: Charlie Maus.
ITEM #1.
Committee Chair Greg Kopischke called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m.
ITEM #2.
Approval of Agenda.
MOTION: by John DiRico, seconded by Tina Rankin to approve the agenda
as presented.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
ITEM #3.
Approval of November 2000 Minutes.
MOTION: by Russ DeFauw, seconded by John DiRico to approve the
minutes as presented.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
ITEM #4.A.
Cobblestone Lake Park Update.
Greg Kopischke abstained from the discussion due to his dual role as committee member
and advisor to the developer on the project.
Included in the Committee information packet was a memo from Randy Johnson listing
three major points: the comparison of the developer’s park design vs. the City’s typical
park design; annual maintenance costs; and the gravel operation permitted until 2007.
Community Development Director Rick Kelley was in attendance. Mr. Kelley stated that
the development was on target, currently in the middle of the environmental review
study. The developer has mentioned reshaping the lake. Moving the southeastern knoll
to the northeaster portion of the lake would allow the gravel transport conveyor belt to
remain in operation, and also allow the trail connections to be completed around the lake.
The reshaping would require a new legal description.
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The City will need to make a decision regarding the construction of a park while the
asphalt plant is in operation. Jake Enebak (Tradition Development) has promised to do
his best to screen, berm, and fence the area if the City does decide to go ahead with the
park.
Staff reviewed the comparison sheets of the City’s version of a typical park and
Traditions version of the proposed Cobblestone Lake Park. There is a considerable
amount of change in acreage, slopes and connecting areas removed, to change the park
from 46 acres to 27 acres. The City’s bottom line construction total equals approximately
$926,500 and Traditions’ bottom line construction equals approximately $1,862,425.
Emphasis was placed on the annual maintenance costs. The worksheet includes an
enhanced trail/pathway, but eliminates specific items such as the amphitheater, fountain,
aquatic gardens and the overlook.
Concerning park improvements costs, Mr. Kelley noted that the primary residents could
be specifically assessed along with the utilities. This would be a one-time assessment
from capital costs. The developer is also making application under the Livable
Communities Development grant application. There is also the possibility of the
homeowners association contracting with their own maintenance services.
Mr. Johnson noted the possibility of partial funding under the State of Minnesota grant
program for parks and recreation. This program has a cap of $50,000 for structures and it
also has another program for trails.
The City of Apple Valley has participated in a meto-wide fiscal study comparison of
property taxes of similar size developments. The study shows the denser developments
provide additional taxes versus what it costs to provide the city services.
Potentially, some of the homes of this development could be constructed in 2001.
They’ll begin on the eastern side, wrapping in a westerly direction along the north side.
Mr. Kelley feels confident, with some additional answers, the development proposal will
go through the planning committee fairly easily. They’ll want to establish a firm date for
the removal of the asphalt plant.
Russ DeFauw questioned, if it’s been determined to be a value-added to the development,
why make it a park at all. Why not take the cash-in-lieu-of to use on other parks? Don’t
think people will drive to the park. It will be more of a private park, surrounded on all
four sides by houses, as an enclosed community. Other parks are more randomly and
readily accessible. If the City of Apple Valley doesn’t participate in this design, the
developer will go ahead with it as a marketing tool. Not sure it’s the right thing to do.
The park maintenance costs are additional costs forever. The homeowners will have the
appreciated value to their homes, but the City will have to maintain the parkland.
Mr. Johnson answered that he believes the park will be significantly used. Can attest to
the number of people walking and biking in the city. Trails are one of the most heavily
used amenities in any park system.
Ms. Rankin stated that the number of people in the development dictates a park in this
area.
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8,000 on the high end of the resident numbers in the development. The park will be
visible along Pilot Knob Road, flanked by homes.
Sheri Buss (Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik, and Associates) suggested that if the lake is
being redesigned, also redesign the development to make it more visibly open by
bringing the park area right up to the roadway. Signage could be used to make it more
open, clearly designating public areas versus private areas.
The land beneath the lake will be owned by the City of Apple Valley because it is
designated as a water holding pond. It will receive storm water from approximately 2700
acres. The lake is being constructed with pond funds, not park dedication money.
Mr. Johnson raised the questions: does the City of Apple Valley want to take the land as
park land, times lines to be established, and if accepted would it be developed over a
period of time (5 years)?
Mr. DeFauw’s recommendation is not accept it as park dedication land; take the cash-in-
lieu-of and apply the money to other parks for mass usage.
Ms. Rankin disagreed. She recommends taking the lake to walk and bike around. She
recognized there are potential problems with the visibility and access. She recommends
making it obvious from the main roads and including signage. She also suggested an
agreement from the developer not to market the park as “private.”
John DiRico stated there are three choices for the park dedication/design:
1. Accept it as designed,
2. Take the cash-in-lieu-of
3. Claim 32 contiguous acres of park land, connected to Apple Valley East.
His recommendation is to take 32 acres of open land rather than go around the lake. This
would be an area where people wouldn’t have to cross Pilot Knob Road to get to the park.
Mr. DiRico requested a redesign of 32 acres, making it more public.
Mr. Johnson agreed to have the City’s engineer Bonestroo, Anderlik and Associates come
up with a couple of alternative park designs for the Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee review at the March 2001 meeting. Committee members were asked what
kinds of amenities they would like to see included in a new park design. They listed:
canoe launch, picnic shelters, trail, and ambient/green space.
Mr. Kelley noted that it will be hard to convince the developer to change the development
design. The Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee is proposing a more traditional
design that what the developer has envisioned.
The environmental review process should be completed in March, then the developer
could bring the project to City Council in April for zoning.
ITEM 4.B
. Regatta Park Plan Review
Plans for this park include play equipment, trails, basketball court, etc. Sheri Buss of
Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik and Associates has put together development proposal
numbers for the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee’s review (included in meeting
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packet). Staff anticipates getting the grass seed down and the play equipment install in
2001. Heavy usage of the park could begin approximately one year after that.
MOTION: by Russ DeFauw, seconded by John DiRico to recommend City
Council authorization for Staff to proceed with specifications
and bids on the development of Regatta Park.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
ITEM 4.C
. Proposed 2001 Valleywood Fees
The information included in the meeting agenda packet was in response to the Parks and
Recreation Advisory Committee’s request at the November 2000 meeting for more
detailed information on the number of rounds of play at Valleywood Golf Course.
Mr. Dodge stated that the trends show the number of rounds at most courses have leveled
out due to the construction of new courses in the area and the game of golf is getting
more expensive. The customers’ higher course expectations require fees to go up to
cover those expectations.
Non-resident season pass numbers have been and will continue to decrease over the
years. No new non-resident season passes will be sold. The number of resident season
passes sold have been increasing and are anticipated to continue the trend due to the
elimination of Rich Acres golf course in Richfield, and Parkview golf course in Eagan.
The number of rounds played by season pass holders has changed from a high of 10,000
in 1998 to 7678 in 2000. The average cost per round by season pass holder has increased
to $13.08. In 1997 the average cost per round was $8.41. Records indicate that Friday is
the busiest day of the week for play at the golf course, followed closely by Saturday.
The December 2000 financial reports for the City show approximately $159,000 net
income for the golf course in 2000.
Mr. DeFauw stated as a publicly owned golf course, we asked the question, did we have a
public policy objective? Maximum profit or adequate profit with policy objective as golf
experience for the residents of Apple Valley. He believes we have accomplished this,
and are where we should be.
Mr. Dodge reviewed some of the administrative management issues and options under
discussion for the golf course in the future:
- Advanced/prime time tee time reservations for an additional fee,
- Accepting all applicants for the junior league rather than placing a maximum
cap on the registrations
- Patron cards,
- Season passes valid six days vs. seven days per week.
Given the fact that 80% of the season pass holders are Apple Valley residents, Russ
DeFauw is inclined not to make changes to the 2001 season pass , he recommended
waiting until the 2002 season for any changes that may be implemented.
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Mr. Kopischke suggested getting comparison information from other courses on their
patron cards, season pass restrictions, etc. Rick Dodge was requested to do the study and
bring the information back for Committee review, discussion and potential
implementation for the 2002 season.
MOTION: by Russ DeFauw, seconded by Greg Kopischke to recommend
City Council approval of the proposed 2001 Valleywood Golf
Course fees.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
ITEM 4.C
. Tee Master Reservation System
Mr. Dodge explained that Valleywood Golf Course has been working with Ready Golf
reservation system for the last three years. The company’s dynamics have changed and
they’re losing golf courses from their roster of customers.
After receiving quotes and specifications from Tee Master Internet Golf Reservation
Services, staff recommends changing the tee reservation system to Tee Master under a
three-year contract.
MOTION: by Russ DeFauw, seconded by Tina Rankin to recommend
approval of the contract with Tee Master Internet Golf
Reservation Services.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
ITEM 5.A
. Park Dedication Fund Expenditure Request.
Mr. Johnson reviewed the memo included in the Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee agenda packet regarding park dedication/maintenance fund update and
request for expenditures. The requested funds are for maintenance items above the
annual budget. This year’s request is for slightly more than past requestes due to the
incoming Regatta Park development.
MOTION: by Russ DeFauw, seconded by John DiRico to recommend City
Council approval of the $160,000 Park Dedication/Maintenance
Fund Update and Request for Expenditures.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
ITEM 6.A.
Other – Renewal of Committee Appointments.
Mr. Johnson stated that he believes the City has a great Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee and personally thanked everyone for participating. Two positions remain
vacant, one junior and one senior. Recommendations for filling these positions should be
forwarded to Randy Johson.
The four Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee members in attendance submitted
their application for re-appointment. Charlie Maus will be contacted regarding his
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intention for re-appointment. Mr. Johnson will take the applications to City Council for
approval during the January 25, 2001 City Council meeting.
ITEM #7.
Adjourn.
There being no further business, the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting
was adjourned.
MOTION: by Russ DeFauw, seconded by Tina Rankin to adjourn the
meeting at 8:20 p.m.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0
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