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CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
November 19, 2002
Minutes of the Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee.
PRESENT: Acting Chair Person Tina Rankin; Committee Members Loren Hegland, Erica
Robertson, Charlie Maus, and John DiRico; Parks and Recreation Director Randy
Johnson; Park Maintenance Superintendent Tom Adamini; Golf Course Manager
Rick Dodge; Arena Manager Gary Pietig; Recreation Superintendent Scott
Breuer; Community Development Director Rick Kelley; Hartford Group, Inc.
Real Estate Development Representatives Patrick Sarver and Dereck Brandt.
ABSENT: Committee Member
Russ DeFauw.
ITEM #1.
Acting Chair Tina Rankin called the meeting to order at 6:33 p.m.
ITEM #2.
Approval of Agenda.
Mr. Johnson requested the addition of an item agenda for Kopischke memorial information.
MOTION: by Loren Hegland, seconded by John DiRico to approve the
agenda with the addition of Kopischke memorial information as
Item 5.B.
VOTE: Yes – 5, No – 0
ITEM #3.
Approval of September 2002 Minutes.
Corrections/changes requested:
page 3, paragraph 2, line 2 – change “pond as part of the park land…” to “pond as part of
the park dedication…”
page 3, paragraph 4, line 1 – change to “…funds or staff to maintain the proposed type of
park land.”
MOTION: by Loren Hegland, seconded by Charlie Maus to approve the
minutes with corrections.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 0 Abstain – 1 (Robertson)
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ITEM #4.A.
Welcome Erica Robinson, New Youth Representative
Introduction of Erica Robinson – Erica is a student at Apple Valley High School. She’s
also worked two years for the City of Apple Valley as a lifeguard at the Redwood
outdoor pool. Welcome Erica.
ITEM 4.B
. Legacy Lake Park Proposal
Information presented was a follow-up to the September Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee meeting where Hartford was asked to “nail down” the amount of park vs.
pond area in the development.
Staff presented two cost summaries for the development. The first was created as the
base summary by Hartford Group and the second is the Parks and Recreation staff revised
version of that summary.
Staff believes the 1.38 acre dedication would be difficult, but something the City could
work with. Developing an “urban type” gathering space could be done with just the
$200,000 collected as park dedication from the development.
A recent Supreme Court decision states, the City can demand only as much land that can
be demonstrated as required by the development, based on the density and type of
occupants in the development. Apple Valley may see more (developments) like this as
some of the areas come in for redevelopment in the downtown areas.
Mr. Sarver stated that the devolopment proposal concept is that this park/lake would be
the spine/nervous system of the development. It will be a pathway system, passive area,
for pedestrians to walk between facilities farther to the north or east.
Mr. Hegland stated that the plan doesn’t fit a park plan as he sees it. The City is putting
park development dollars into the development, using the pond to help the value of the
adjacent property.
Mr. Maus agreed with Mr. Hegland. Because of the way it’s being presented, in pieces,
it’s difficult to make a decision. If it were presented as a whole packet, we wouldn’t
accept it.
Mr. Johnson and Mr. Kelley stated that this is a partnership between the City and the
developer. The City gets dedication dollars, but the passive nature is different than were
used to. It’s more manicured.
Mr. Adamini agreed that this will enhance the development, but it would also be a good
amenity to the City. Concerned that it be something that draws in the non-resident into
the area.
Ms. Robertson agreed with Mr. Adamini. We need to get more residents into the City.
She thinks the City needs some diversity into the park system.
Mr. DiRico thought it would be worth the gamble to go down a different avenue, than
was we’re used to. In the past, our focus has been on residential land with playgrounds
and playfields. We also serve the commercial. This plays into the big picture.
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The developer and staff will take this proposal to the City Council for subdivision
agreement.
MOTION: by John DiRico, seconded by Charlie Maus to accept staff
proposal of Legacy Lake Park with additions or addendums.
Committee also goes on record indicating a need for a larger
(five acre or more) park in the next phase of this development
that will accommodate a playground and playfield.
VOTE: Yes – 4, No – 1 (Hegland)
ITEM 4.C
. Apple Valley East Park Pond Options.
After engineering staff reviewed the Cobblesone Lake development proposal, it was
determined that addition ponding will be needed due to the quantity of construction.
Options were discussed regarding the park recommendations – 1) Leave the existing park
intact and create a new pond on the three-acre triangular shaped piece of property, or 2)
expand the existing pond to flood over the existing ballfied. Relocated the ballfield and
hockey rink to the west side of the park and onto the new three acres.
MOTION: by Charlie Maus, seconded by Loren Hegland to accept staff
recommendation of leaving the existing pond and adding a
second pond, foregoing the plan of a new field on the west side
of the park.
VOTE: Yes – 5, No – 0
ITEM 4D.
Financial Summaries for the golf Course, Arenas, and Pools.
Mr. Dodge presented a copy of the Tiger Woods/Target 30-second commercial filmed
partially at Valleywood Golf Course in the summer of 2002.
Staff reviewed the numbers from their financial reports.
MOTION: by Loren Hegland, seconded by Charlie Maus to recommend
City Council approval of the 2003 Valleywood Golf Course
season pass rate of $750 for residents and $1125 for
grandfathered non-residents. Passes to be valid for full play
Monday through Thursday; Friday 6:00 a.m. to 7:52 a.m. and
after 4:00 p.m.; Saturday and Sunday 6:00 a.m. to 7:52 a.m. and
after 2:00 p.m.
VOTE: Yes – 5, No – 0
Mr. Pietig stated that as managers of the arenas, the goal is to generate enough revenue to
meet the operating expenses. Basically the facilities are booked to capacity during prime
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hours. The Sports Arena is busy seven days a week from 6:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. with
skating. Soccer, LaCrosse, and the skateboard park are all held at Hayes Park Arena
during the non-ice season.
MOTION: by Loren Hegland, seconded by Charlie Maus to recommend
City Council approval of the 2003 Arena budget rates as
proposed - $160 prime and $115 non-prime hours.
VOTE: Yes – 5, No – 0
MOTION: by John DiRico, seconded by Charlie Maus to recommend City
Council approval of the 2003 pool rates as presented by staff -
$2 per person daily rate at Redwood and $6 per person daily rate
at the Apple Valley Family Aquatic Center.
VOTE: Yes – 5, No – 0
ITEM 5.A.
Winter Brochure Delivered First Week in December
Residents will find a copy of the Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Winter Brochure in
their mail in early December.
ITEM 5.B.
Kopischke Memorial Information
A memorial service will be held at the Kopischke home Tuesday, November 26.
ITEM 7.
Adjourn
There being no further business, the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting
was adjourned.
MOTION: by John DiRico, seconded by Charlie Maus to adjourn the
meeting at 8:33 p.m.
VOTE: Yes – 5, No – 0
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