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CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
December 18, 1990
Minutes of the Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee
held December 18, 1990, at the Apple Valley Community Center. .
PRESENT: Chairperson Greg Kopischke; Committee Members Tina Rankin, John
DiRico, Charlie Maus; Parks and Recreation Director Randy Johnson;
Associate Planner Meg McMonigal; Apple Valley Hockey Association
Representatives Jack Morris, Mike Leopold and Jim Gowling (arrived at
8:27pm).
ABSENT: David Gross and Russ DeFauw
Item #l. Chairman Kopischke called the meeting to order at 7:44 pm.
Item #2. Approval of the Agenda.
Tom Melena and Tom Goodwin were not available to attend the meeting this
evening and asked that the Committee not take any action on the Southern
Athletic Complex issue. They asked that it be discussed at the City's
January Goal Setting Session.
MOTION: by John DiRico, seconded by Tina Rankin to approve the
agenda with the deletion of Item #5 - Old Business.
VOTE: Yes - 4, No - 0
Item #3. Approval of November Minutes.
a. Item #S.C. paragraph 2, second sentence should read "The
information was complied in Apri1 of 1989. "
b. Page 3, Item #S.A. paragraph 1, last sentence should read "The
complex would be Iocated southeast of the Target/Menards area. "
c. Page S, last paragraph, last sentence should read "City Council
could be approached for another $15,000 if needed. "
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MOTION: by Tina Rankin, seconded by Greg Kopischke to accept the
November minutes with the noted changes.
VOTE: Yes - 4, No - 0
Item #4.A. New Business - City Goal Setting for 1991
The Goal Setting Session dates have been scheduled for Thursday, January
10 and Friday, January 11 at the Canterbury Inn of Shakopee. The
meeting is to discuss and set the City's goals for 1991. One
representative from the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee is
requested to attend.
Greg Kopischke volunteered to act as the representative and John DiRico
will be the alternate.
Item #4,B. New Business - Winter Program Update
Randy Johnson distributed copies of the Parks and Recreation Winter
Brochure and covered some of its highlights. The warminghouses are
scheduled to open Saturday, December 22 with weather permitting. Crews
have cleared the rinks twice to prevent the snow from acting as an
insulation against frost. A minimum of two to three inches of frost is
needed to start any substantial flooding.
Item #S.A. Old Business
Randy Johnson displayed a drawing done by Wayne Hilbert from Cording,
Natwick and Hilbert Architecture of the proposed Southern Athletic
Complex. The drawing is to provided an idea of what could be included in
the complex once the land has been purchased.
There are two City funds the capitol could come from. One is the $2
million building fund and the other is the $1 million Capitol
Improvement Fund (CIP) . With the State of Minnesota's budget deficit,
those funds are in danger of forfeiture. A way to protect the money is
to put it into a designated fund earmarked for specific projects.
The Southern Athletic Complex will help to alleviate the many problems
currently being experienced with the various youth sports programs, i.e.
parking, bathrooms, field shortages, use of neighborhood parks, etc.
Included in the Advisory Committee's agenda packet was a breakdown of
the construction estimates for the completion of the athletic complex.
The project would involve two or three years and a cost of approximately
$405,000 plus the purchase price of the iand. Construction work would
be done with a combination of contract service and inhouse.
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Winkler has quoted a cost of $65,000 per acre of the proposed site.
Therefore the project may have to be moved farther east and away from
the ring route to obtain lower land prices.
The gravel operation has proposed moving to a location 1/2 mile east of
Gallaxy Avenue, southeast of the existing Barton's facility. That would
ailow the athletic complex to be located farther east than originally
proposed. Randy Johnson has a meeting scheduled for Friday, December 21 `
with the owners of the property. He will review the discussion with the
Advisory Committee at the next meeting.
As a comparison, Eastview Athletic Complex was built at a cost of
approximately $1.5 million. It is a 40 acre site with less fields than
is proposed for the Southern Athletic Complex.
Further discussion of the proposed athletic complex will be held at the
January Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting.
Item #6. Other
Jack Morris, representing the Apple Valley Hockey Association, addressed
the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee about the prospect of
additional indoor ice. He felt that in the past the Hockey Association
was accused of not getting involved and consequently did not get a
facility. He wanted to let people know that he is invoived with getting
a new arena and that he believes the community is in dire need of a new
facility. He urged a concerted effort on the part of the Advisory
Committee to add an arena to the Southern Athletic Complex plans.
In his opinion, the new arena would be used approxiraately eight months
per year. He feels that the hockey program has dwindled due to the
public's discontent with the ice time presently available at the Sports
Arena.
The further out of the downtown Apple Valley area, the less amenities he
feels would be needed.
The Apple Valley Hockey Association has an annual income of
approximately $25,000 from a gambling operation. Each year the money
must be spent. It cannot be carried over from year to year. That money
could conceivably by contributed to the operating cost of a new
building. Presently it is going towards the payment of ice rental
costs.
As a review, the $350,000 figure quoted at last month's meeting was for
a fabric dome. $860,000 would build a basic pole barn type facility
capable of use up to five or six months a year.
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Mr. Morris felt that rental of the facility during the non-peak hours
that the Hockey Association would not be skating, would be no problem.
The cities of Rosemount and Lakeville are in close proximity and would
possibly take up the off-times.
Randy Johnson estimates the cost of operating an arena would be
approximately $300,000 per year. The present Sports Arena is co- I
sponsored by the City and by Independent School District #196. The
arrangement is beneficial in that the two organizations divide the cost
of operating and any new equipment that is necessary. I
John DiRico reviewed some of the participant numbers involved in the
hockey program (500) vs, the Valley Athletic Association's programs '
(4300) . He stated that the Committee is getting a lot of pressure from
the Athletic Association to increase the available field space and he
urged the Hockey Association to be a little more vocal in a positive way
to stress their views.
Chairperson Kopischke reiterated that no one on the Committee has made a
conscious decision as far as a new arena is concerned. The plans
displayed tonight are to get an idea of what may be possible.
He then thanlced the gentlemen for coming to the meeting to address the
Advisory Committee. He also explained to them how they missed an
opportunity at the October Input Meeting to address some of the other
interested groups in the community.
Randy Johnson explained that the Hockey Association is welcome to attend
any of the Advisory Cotnmittee meetings, but suggested that if they would
like to address the Committee about specific items they should have the
item placed on the agenda.
The next Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting will be
scheduled for January 15, 1991.
Item #7. Adjourn
MOTION: by Charlie Maus, seconded by Tina Rankin to adjourn the
meeting at 9:07pm.
VOTE: Yes - 4, No - 0
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