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HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/17/1987 F • � � CITY OF APPLE VALLEY PARK COMMITTEE MINUTES I TUESDAY, February 17, 1987 � Minutes of the informal meeting of the Park Committee of the City of Apple Valley, held Tuesday, February 17, 1987, at 7:30 at City Hall. PRESENT: Chairpersan Greg Kopischke; Committee Members Charlie Maus, Tina Rankin, Dave Reif; Park Director Jon Gurban. ABSENT: Dave Gross, Lynn Miller (both notif ied Mr. Gurban) . 1. Chair Kopischke called the meeting to order at 7:34 p.m. 2. Under Item 6 Other, February and riarch meeting schedules should be discussed. MOTION: of Rankin, seconded by Maus, to approve the agenda far tonight's meeting as amended. VOTE: Yes, 4; No, 0. ^ 3. Consolidation of Park and Historical Committees. Mr. Gurban reported that the Historical Committee voted to accept the concept , plan of consolidating the two committees at their February 10, 1987 meeting. City Council Liaison Goodwin has indicated that if the two committees desire this consolidation, then it would certainly meet his approval. This matter will be broughC forward to the Gity Gouncil at their informal meeting on February 19, 1987, i Ms. Rarikin indicated the report as prepared by Mr. Gurban on this consolidation looks good. Mr. Reif f elt this would be a good opportunity to see how the consolidation works and could give the Historical Committee a new outlook. Mr. Maus felt the plan looked good; his only concern is having eleven members. Restoration of the Scott Schoolhouse could be a project best handled by a sub- committee appointed by the Chair of the Park Committee. Mr. Gurban suggested if the consolidation is approved, an orientation package including bylaws, Park Guids, Historical Committee information, etc. should be compiled and a special meeting/reception held. MOTION: to approve the proposed consolidation of the Park Committee and the Historical Committee into a new Park Committee with the accompanying by-laws and that the recommendation is made to the City Council for passage. RANKIN/REIF 4j0 4. Issues for 198T. Mr. Gurban led the review of issues brought forth as a result of Staff "brain- storming"at their first session i.n '87. Following are these issues with Park Committee comments: f . . , � , � '� i , � PARK COMMITTEE MINUTES � February 17, 1987 ; Page 2 � 1. Batting Cage--good idea. � 2. Bike Path Clearing--necessary. 3. Promotion Video Tape--good idea. 4. Flea/Farmers Market--Sunday operation. 5. Purchase of Cross-Country Ski Equipment--good deals are available! 6. Calendar--will be done within the next two years; advertising could cover costs. i 7. Recreation Brochure--good idea. j 8. Welcome to Apple Valley Signage--additional GOOD signs are needed(with flower beds beneath them) . 9. Preschool Program Expansion--YES. ' 10. Development of Pipeline Park Property--linear stretches could be asphalted and landscaped and include benches. These would also make good bike/running paths. i 11. Wildwood Pool and Building--if this private recreational facility becomes available, it would be a good addition to the adjacent 8-acre Wildwoad park. 12. Reclamation of Existing Parks--Long Lake and Chaparral have been reclaimed in the past two years with Palomino Park now in pragress. 13. Garden Rental Plots--?. ^ ' 14. Farquhar Fark--good idea. 15. Electrical Outlets at Valleywood--ball dispensing, etc. 16. Camping Facilities. � 17. Water Park--YES. ' 18. Trail Maps--would be helpful. 19. Valleywood Clubhouse Expansion--the Patron Card system may be revised in the next 3-S years to insure access to the course for Apple Valley residents (not as a discount card) . � 20. Redwood Park Development--more activities should be provided for those who do not wish to swim. 21. Computerization of Records. 22. Ali.magnet Park Development--a PLAN is NEEDED! The 210 acres around the lake should be dealt with late in '87. 23. Outdoor Ice Improvements--an outdoor zamboni can be purchased for $2-4,000.00 witY this cost being shared with the School District. 24. Indoor Soccer--yes. 25. Building Policies. 26. Park Farm--perhaps this could be pursued on a regional basis rather than city basis. Could compile ideas and turn these over to the County. 27. Clustering of Outdoor Volleyball Courts--possibly promotional events could occur. Following are Ideas generated by the Park Committee :and Mr. Gurban: 28. Water access via docks for fishing and boa�s at LacLavon, Long Lake, and Farquhar. 29. Croquet is making a comeback and perhaps this could be included at Redwood and/ or Valleywood. This would probably be more appealing if the activity could be done in association with something else. 30. Electronic Signs--portable, but not permanent signs could be advantageously used to advertise programs/activities oc�urring in the City. For example, signage at Redwood Park as one approaches the City. 31. PZatform Tennis at Hayes. 32. Covered Basketball--this idea of a covered facility was brainstormed with ideas being that the covered ice rinks could be used for basketball in the summer, for a flea market, etc. Mr. Gurban wili seek free drawings from an architect regarding a covered f acility. � . � � PARK COMMITTEE MINi�TES - February 17, 1987 Page 3 The Committee also discussed how the upgrading of CR ��42 would relate to Redwood Park. (Crosswalks, lights, etc.--Mr. Gurban will keep the Park Gommittee infarmed of activity) . Boot hockey is gaining in popularity. The idea of asphalting a hockey rink far summer use has been pursued. Lighted volleyball at the sand areas (Hayes) could provide additional playing areas. 5. Comprehensive Plan Update: Mr. Gurban reviewed his memo documenting the February 3 discussion on this item. Following are the Issues identif ied: a. Nature Parks. b. Water Amenities. c. Landscape Ordinance. d. Future Community Athletic Park. Items for discussion--does the Park Committee wish to take a position regarding Public/Private Partnerships. If they alreay exist in the City, - do we decide to include them, da we try to purchase them if they become available, etc. It was decided to review the existing private facilities identified on a case by case basis. In the Comprehensive Plan, a statement ' will be made that as private facilities become available, their possible acquisition will be determined on a case by case basis. Existing Private Facilities-- l. The Club--cannot see the Park Department operating The C1ub--severe building limitations exist and parking is inadequate. Option can be kept open; "Thanks but no thanks." 2. Cedar Health and Fitness--same comments apply as to The Club. 3. Apple Place--absolutely not. 4. Watruds 9 Hole--if this were no longer to be a golf course, the City should intercede and insure its continuance as a golf. course. This would provide facilities on both sides of the City. 5. Galaxie Driving Range--it would be desirable to have one at Valleywood; but the City does not need a separate f acility. Only if $ were to become extremely scarce should the e�cy address the idea of min,iature golf. 6. Wildwood Country Club--coul.d be easily incorporated into the Wildwood Park area. A statement needs to be made concerning acquiring such facilities l.ike the Wildwood pool/, country club which could easily become a common recreationl area unlike the pool at Cedar Knolls and Pennock Place which are within their compound. The statement should address: l, being adjacent to a public park; 2: clear public access; 3. are there other existing facilities; 4.the $ that would be needed to bring the facility up to standard; 5. parking woul.d have to be available. Obscure Activities: Laeroose,�Rugby, Bandy--do we wish to pursue obscure activities" to promote AppleValley as this type of center or is there another activity we clearly wish to go after. Archery--expressed interest in this and this should be kept in mind if another site becomes available. - Little Theatre--this could be addressed in the Comp Plan that if in the commercial area a suitable building becomes available we could acquire it for a community theatre. Cultural enhancement shou�.d be addressed-= Fine Arts facility--outdoor amphitheatre! � . � � PARK COMMITTEE MINUTES February 17, 1987 Page 4 The question that needs to be answered is, "When do you stop and address the needs of the smaller groups." For some of the obscure activities, it wauld seem that you ' would have to begin creating programs to see what the interest may be before facilities are provided. The ideas of Curling and Indoor Soccer were addressed: For example, if someone wished to come into the City and build a curling club facility ;provided the City would donate the Zand--questions such as Does AV want to get into a regional activity? What is the benef it to the City? Would there be a market for this type activity? Etc. , Etc. Something Iike an Indoor Soccer Facility could be a joint venture, for example. There should be provisions made to PROVIDE FOR NEEDS WHERE INTERESTS ALREADY EXIST. , Fark Dedication Funds of $120,000.00, Carroll Farm �roprerty: Since the Library will no go west of Cedar Avenue and since it was originally thought that the Carroll Farm would be the location of a Park/Library, the question becomes how should that " Park Dedication money be used. Should the funds go to 1ust any library site. In view of the fact that the residents of Carrollwood will be using the facilities at Hayes Field as their "neighborhood park" should that money go to deveZopment of Hayes should there be the need. It would seem that the money which is not going to be used for a park at Carrollwood should be applied to Hayes since that is the f acility the residents would be using most frequently. Ms. Rankin pointed out that the Park Dedication Funds are for PARK; and if the library cannot be constructed at Carrollwood, the funds have come from that land and should be used to provide those residents witt� park facilities. Consider, also, if the land should be donated for a Library if it were to include an art gallery, theatre, etc. This matter should be carefully considered by Committee Members. LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE: The matter of landscaping needs to be activel.y addressed in the Comprehensive Plan. ' "Tokenism Landscaping" has frequently occurred and this should be corrected. FORESIGFiT regarding this is needed. Mr. Gurban included the ordinances from two cities--Plymouth and Eden Prairie--to be reviewed. He requested that Members review these carefully and note their comments. Ae will also seek the comments of City Planner Kelley to see how the current landscape requirements are being implemented. A discussion of a "Downtown" id�ntif ication followed, and everyone agreed this matter of landscaping must be actively addressed to futher prevent areas such as the landscaping around Menard's, Rainbow/K-Mart, etc. to continue occurring in the City. 6. Other: February/March Meeting Dates-- February 26 City Council Meeting--Goals/Objectives for Park Dedication Funds to be addressed. March 3, Park Committee Meeting--7:30, City Hall. **Move March 17 meeting to March 19--results o£ bid opening--Park Committee Meeting, 7:30, City Hall March 26--City Council Meeting--PARK COMMITTEE MEMBERS NEED TO ATTEI3D! . . � . M . . � � � � . . . � PARK COMMITTEE MINUTES February 17, 1987 Page S 7. Adj ourn: MOTION: of Maus, seconded by Rankin, to adjourn the meeting at 10:30 p.m. VOTE: Yes, 4; Na, 0. CHAIRMAN APPROVED: �v�z--� �-�5 y�7 STAFF REVIEWED: CC: All Park Committee Members City Council Read File Park Maintenance Supervisor