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CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PARK COMNIITTEE MINUTES
Tuesday, February 3, 1987
Minutes of the Park Committee of the City of Apple Valley, held Tuesday, February 3, 1987
at 7:30 p.m, at City Hall.
PRESENT: Chairperson Greg Kopischke; Committee Members Dave Gross, Charlie Maus,
Lynn Miller, Tina Rankin (8:55) Dave Reif; Park Director Jon Gurban.
ABSENT: No one.
I. Chair Kogischke called the meeting to order at 7:45 p.m.
2. Agproval of Agenda;
MOTION: of Gross, seconded by Mi11er, to approve the agenda
for tonight's meeting as presented.
VOTE: Yes, 5; No, 0.
3. Approval of January 6, 1987 Minutes:
MOTION: of Gross, seconded by Maus, to approve the minutes of .
January 6, 1987, as presented.
VOTE: Yes, 5; No, 0.
4. For Your Information:
a. Second Indoor Ice Rink--Mr. Gurban gave a brief overview of the meeting
held February 2, I987, with the AVHA. He indicated they had 212 hours of
very productive dicussion with the conclusion that a facility that more
people ean utilize--a multi-purpose facility--should be pursued. The Hayes
Field Site could be the location of such a facility.
b. Mid Winter Festival--the roster of events and activites was reviewed.
5. Bond Issue Update:
Mr. Gurban gave a complete update on Bond Issue activity� and plans for 1987:
As of December 1, 1986, $55,000.00 has been earned in interest income: If the
Committee agreed, it could be recommended that the $120,000.00 in Park Dedication
a. Funds from the Carroll Farm property could be made available for the Hayes Constructiop
Bid opening is set for March 17, 1987 at 2:00 p.m. for the Hayes Community Center.
With this in mind, Mr. Gurban recommended that the March 17 meeting be moved to
March 19.
b. The Athletic Field Complex should be ready for a Spring '88 Grand Opening.
Prices for lighting and irrigation are projected to be between $320,000 and 380,OOO.QO.
c. Redwood Community Building renovations are expected to costs about $190,000.00.
d. Apple Valley East will be paired with Palomino Park. Final plans and specifications
are being completed. Funds for AV East would b e taken from Park Dedication Funds--
AV East, $60,000; Palomino, $40,000 (which was included in the Bond Issue} ,
e. Belmont Park Expansion will not actively be pursued until late 1987.
f. Scott Park--Tennis, Archery Lighting---the sensor is in and being used. It was
suggested that a tennis hitting area be provided at one end of the parking lot
while persons are waiting to get on the tennis courts.
g. Hagemeister Park--Tennis Lighting---there have been several complaints from
nearby residents. Shields will have to be installed on the lights.
h. Lac Lavon--this project is on hold until the developer has made adequate site
preparation. Until turf is down,there wi1.l be no developrnent at this site.
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i. Diamond Path Park--presently "On Ho1d." If the picnic shelter cannot be installed
� by Me�morial Day for the "picnic season" development will not likely occur until
the Spring of 1988.
j. Heritage Play Equipment--it is believ ed that equ ipment can be purchased and installed
in 1987. Additional play equipment is requested; basketball can be taken care of
at Palomino Park.
k. Ualley Middle Complex--the School Department prefers improvements to the Tennis Courts
rather than Fitness Equipment. A Tennis Court Ra11y Area will be added. $7,50Q.00
has been allocated for this project (can probably be done for $5,000.00) .
1. Cedar Knolls Park--wiZl rely heavily on the talents of our Forestry Specialist and
Park Maintenance Supervisor along with students from Vo-Techs for landscape designs.
Access material from this park will be taken for f ill needed at Heritage and Cedar
Knolls parks.
m. Faith Park--it is felt an outdoor volleyball court is needed; the area should be
resur.f,aced and additional play equipment installed.
n. Original Parks Play Equipment Replacement--equipment will either be replaced or new°
equipment will be added to the four ariginal parks (Duchess, Newell, Greening and
Pennock) .
Mr. Gurban suggested that Committee Members request any additional information they may
desire on any given project.
6. Park and Historical Committee Consolidation:
Mr. Gurban reviewed his memo introducing the issue of consideration of consolidation
of the Park Committee with the Historical Committee. Presently the Historical
Committee has five members who have served for a number of years. In reviewing the
dictates of the Committee, it does appear to be logical to consolidate the two
groups. Within the statement of the purposes of the Park Committee, H3storical
preservation and purposes could be included--a lot of matters of historical
significance deal with parks. Perhaps more Historical puxpo�es could be included
within the Park Committee--for example, the securing of oId equipment--historical
identification with activities such as golf, etc. This could be a means of
broadening the in�erests of inembers of both committees. In the beginni.ng, all
members of both Committees would be allowed to serve to see how this could function.
Chair Kopischke felt this approach is reasonable, but his concern is that one
interest may begin to di3,ute the other. Being aware not ta allow this to occur,
the consolidation could work to advantage of both committees.
Ms. Rankin indicated she, too, felt eff ectiveness of the purposes of each Committee
might be diluted, but does not really see that as much of a problem.
Ms. Miller felt the consolidation could be real� interesting; with the consolidation
and the resulting sharing of interests/issues, there could be more cooperation between
the two committees. It might work, she feZt.
Mr. Maus indicated his initial reaction was "no" but with further explaination, he
felt it seems okay to consolidate.
Mr. Gross--indicated he felt this should not be pursued. The Historical Society
he was used to in South Datc.ota was almost a full-time job to coordinate peoplef
projects, etc. It takes man power, maney, and a lot of work. If this is
dissolved into the Park Gommittee, he felt the Historical Committee would go away.
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Mr. Gross f elt it was an oversimplif ication to feel that they could be assimm ilated
into the Park Committee. Ae f eels they could lose their "life blood" and flavor
of a Historical Committee. If new blood is needed on the Committee and if they
' cannot get the added support, he does not f eel consolidation is the answer.
Mr. Gross did indicate, though, that it could be an exciting project to see the
moving of the Scott Schoolhouse to Hayes Fie1d.
Chair Kopischke suggested that the Park Committee could become involved with their
projects just as they could become involved with Park issues. An item could be
included on each month's agenda--Historical Report. He f elt this is something we
may wish to gursue; it could be a nice f it.
Mr. Gurban indicated that preservation of the Scott Schoolhouse has to be a
City project. He will prepare a report for both the Historical Committee and
Park Committee to consider at their next meetings. The main concern is the
preservation of the identi�y of the Historical Committee with the zeed for
historical preservation a�zd purposes to be actively addressed. The way to best
insure that this accurs will have to be carefully considered. ^
Ms. Rankin is concerned that consolidating could be the end of the Historical
Committee. The issues of the Park Committee are growing and are new; this Committee'
has not looked at historic preservation. Mr. Gurban indicated this concern could
be a plus and perhags could give a balance to the Park Committee--in 20 or so years,
this could be laoked upon as a "forward thinking" Committee! The concern about the
dilution of responsibilites will have to actively addressed.
7. Comprehensive Plan Update: �
Mr, Gurban reviewed his memo capsulizing the general position of the Park Committee
on the Size of Parks, Terrain, and Location. It was suggested that these items as
presented be included verbatum in the Park Plan Update.
A Downtown Park may be the most difficult to achieve. It should be made known that
the Park Committee felZs a downtown park is necessary. Chair Kopischke feels the
best type of downtown park would be a Plaza type park. A Peavy Plaza type "noon" time
gathering spot around a more urban type complex--government center, office buildings,
ete. There could be some potential for this type park at the Commons area.
This type of park should be included with the plans and study of a "downtown" area.
The Ordinance Revisision should include a "clarion call" that the law be enforced
regarding Park Dedication by businesses. It is on the books and should be enforced.
Adjacent communities are enforcing it; for example, Eagan charges 5-7� per sq. ft.
for park dedication purposes.
8. Other Items:
1. Regional Park Committee Planning--Mr. Gurban meets with other Park Directors in
the area for one-on-one dialogue which is of great value to those who attend.
2. The question of why the hockey rinks are lighted and the ice skating rinks are not
has been raised by an area resident.
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3. It was suggested that the times pleasure hockey is allowed on the rinks shauld be
posted at the warming hauses.
J 4. A NATUxE Park should be included in the park system and this should be included
in the Comprehensive Plan. Plans could be made to develop the 90 acres of
Alimagnet and or an area of x number of acres in the southern portion of the City.
For e�ample, if the Committee had '� of Lac Lavon, this could be c3eveloped into
a passive-type situation. If something on the records had dictated a nature park
in the City, we could have had an=opportunity at Lac I�avon. Also to be thought of
is WATER Amenity__ should overtures be made as to desiring those areas-- tor
example, the gravel pits once the gravel operations are complete. If sub-
stantial water amenities surface in the community, we should make a strong
suggestion for significant adjacent park land. These statements should be
included in the Comprehensive Plan so that when those opportunities arise, the
ideas are a matter of record. LANDSCAPING policies should also be included in
the ordinance. For example, bonding requirements, the minimum number of trees
of particular sizes based an square footage, etc. Standards for reviewing
landscaping requirements should be established. �
9. Adjourn. ,
MOTION: of Gross, seconded by Maus, to adjourn the meeting at 9:50 p.m.
VOTE: Yes, 6; No, 0.
CHAIRMAN APPROVED:
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