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CITY OF APPLE VALI,EY
�ARK �4MMIT3'EE MIAJ�ES
Tuesday� January 15y "�9�5
PRESENTt' Vice..Chairperson R3ta Gutenkauf� Sandra Bayd� Gre� �£Qpischke� Ti�a
Rankin� Wayne Turn�r� Park �irectc�r Jc�n Gurban; Cn�tmun�,�y 1��velc+pme��t
�irector Jah� Gr��z, City Plannsr Riek �e�.1.ey; C�.ty Gauncil Member
Gary Humphreg; �hree visitors.
ABSENT t John Fa.nch.
'!. �'a.ce-Cha�rpe�san �u�enkauf called the meetir�� ta o�der at 8s46 p.m.
2. The a�;enda was apraroved a� �resented.
3. M�'TIt�I�r to apprc�ve the minutes of the November 2()} �984 and December 'I$x 19�4
m���ta.�z�s. . ,
VQ�E'# Y�s� 5, Nvx fl. BaydfTurner
4. Lac Lavon Park Dedicatidn.
The �a1.lpwin� perst�n�a fram the Sienna Cdr�ora�t�,an were present ta dise�ss
�n�.tial sketch plans for Lac Lavon: Mr. Jul�.us Smi�th� Attcarney; Mr. Jc�hn
Hanken�c�n, t7f��.cer; Mr. Jim H3.11, P2anner.
S�etch p3.ans indicatxng praposed par dedic�ti.c�n �rere.
Plan �-..The '�&U aeres (I.�ac Iavon b�in� �$ aere�)' devel.aped a� 141 sin�;le
family homes in �he north and south�r�.y portic�ns with �-�" town
hc�use u�3�s in the south�ast por��.on. The �,ake �.tsel�' caoul.d be
pr�.vate w�.th no public aecess. �he 1(,}� �� dedi��tion wQUld be
satisfie�. with 0.9 aeres of p�.rkland 3n the Narthwest e4rner
of the deve�apment and �he remainder a� c�.sh. �,n 1.ieu.
Plan B-.»Greenwa� axt�n� the northerly eci�e of the �.ake and a s�tall
gre�n���� ccannecta,ng the iake t€� Gard�nview ]�rive;: the waters and
pa�hway linka�ec wou�.d be �public. This woul.d be apprc�ximate7.y
'�0.,1 acres of �reen spacey 59tJC31a�nea3. feet �of sha�e�.in� a:nd a
�l8f7C}� pathway co�tin� approximately �11$�C�f�Q.fJt7.
Plan C�.-Tr�o �aub�.ic averlooks� one an �he •pro�im�.ty €�f Hayes Trai1 and
the a�h�r close to Hopewell La�.e� wh�,ch �tbuld para�ride 4.6 acres
fQr informal games, e�c. Tl�e l.ake wauld be �rivate, and �he
shorel�.ne �rc�uld be private--there wauld be n.n �ublic acc�ss tc►
�he l�.ke £ram the averlooks. Th�; ane averlQCak at Ht�pewe],I ccruld
ca�.nec� tn �on�;rid�� Park« Tota1 �ree�, space �rc>uld be 6 aeres ��ith
�7�^�7�5�4qQ.00) affered as ca�h in 1�.�:u,
.Attarney Sma.th co�nm�nted that �he ��.enna Corpnratian preferred Plan � and pay
ca�h in lzeu. Tf �.he decision w�re ta �o wxth P1.an �r th� raugh'�rae2in� az�d
p�.���ray �.�.stall�.tion w�uld be approx3mat�ly �73'C3Qt�, the land $�-4�t}(�t3 for
a �ata�. of �113=(34t7 fc�r the pathways. Pl�n. B �as the problem e,� 1.�.abi1.�.�y;
the Company �rould have to d�,spose of the 1.a�e. Thas presents heavy eeancarnic
GQ22�€�Z'z35 far �.rhat is bein� propcssed for the area.
Th� quest�.an was raised 4� Burnsville havin� publ�.c access and Ap�rle Valley pra.vate
Mr» Gretz comr�ented that Apple Val1�y �ity Attorne� Jim �heldon has indicat�d it
i� possible 7.e�;al.ly, but the pract�,eal�.t�.es Qf such an a�ra�g�ment are very
d�.fficult in term� caf enft�rc�.ng �he 1aw{s). At�or��y Sheldon �.s cantynuing tc�
s�udy t,,i� 1��a1. ramaficatiQns.
A.ttarney Smith replied tha� �he current barrier b�tween the Burnsvill.e �.nd A'�
partic�ns of the lake wc�ul.d have to be �reat3y �.mp�c�ved vrith fe�.ca.ng� on each side.
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PARK CD�MITTEE MINU�'ES
Ja�u�ry 15, 1985
Pa�e �
T�r. Gre�z cammented �hat he and Mr. Kelley walked the proposed pathway �rea 3n
F'la� B and they do ncst feel �h�t tov much �radin� �rau�.d be need.ed.
�a.scussic�n fallc�wecl over �he lake be�.n� �ublic or pr3.vate. Ms. Ra�in que�txoned
wh� the City cauldnt� have access with I,�c Lavon bai�g pub7.�.c water; Attorney
Sr�ith �aid �ha� the marketa.n� advanta�es ta ma�.n�tainin� the 1.ake a,s private �t�r
pate�.tial. property or�ners crf those lots ad�ac�nt �a the 1ak�. Ae 3.nd�.ca�tec� �he
bed c�f the �.a�e i.s owned b� an �.ndiv�.dua1 and is being purchased by the Sien�a
Corparat�.on.
*Burnsvil.l� oc�n.s �he fee t�.tle for the la2�e.
Mr. Turner que�tioned th� the price value d�.fference of nnn-lake�hore la�s versus
3.akeshore lots-�»�'�,,�5f1•�8 per sq. ft,
It was pa�.nted out �h�.t whil� the Park �ammitte�: can apprec�,ate the ecc�nc�mic
impac�, i.� �.s the sole duty c►f �he C4mma.ttee to d�a1 �a�.th par� cledic�t:�c�n a� tc►
ho�r the Ci��r can be ben�.fited and �h� overal.l, value tc� the et�mrnuni�tq„
The �omm�.ttee ree�ss�d �or five minutes.
A�r. �re�� pointed csut that le�al ppin�.ans are grea�ly rneeded--public v�. private.
A jnint powers ag�eemen.t eQU�.d be rnade with the ��.ty of Burnsvil�.e.
Council rn�mbe� �Iumphrey pc�;,nted aut that fr4m an insurance �t�ndpoant th�re caul.d
be diff�.cul�y 3.n a homeo�e�s� assoca.ation b�a.�.g �ble �c� purchase in�urance at a
reasa�ab�.e rate.
Ms. Rankin questioned hc�w Burnsv�.11e wc�u7.d �eel abc�ut �ur c�mm�.n�:�y u.s�g their
pc�rtion of the �.ake �.f AV�s sade remained privat�« �he �eel� water �,ccess i�
i�portant fc�r the bpp�artunit�;es it would prc�vide for fishi.ng� eanc�in�� sma11.
saa.lbaats..-acta,vitae� r�hieh are not naw available at the �.ake.
�3i.scussaon then er�sued as tca how Plan B may be modified tc� accrampl3sh much of
that a.s d�sired. The f41.1awing su��est�,�,ns resulted« �he parl� acr���e at Ha�res
Trail and �arden View Urive shc�uZd be increased. four--fc�1d. The park acrea��
�.inkin� I,on�r3.d�e P�:rk �c� �he develapmen� shs�uld be ela.minated. A. �aaterfront
pathway should cara�er�ce at the Hayes Trai1 site and prflce�d araund the water
(apprc��i�na�ely 1 ��p4 fe��), ex3.tin� a� approximately the mid-�aint of the "Foint"
proceeding due �rest v�.a a 1Qa faot ri�h�-of-way �o �Y�� park a�reate at Hapewe�.1
I,ane, whi.ch shc�uld be a.ncreased four-fc�ld, mostl.y �.n a southerly d�.rectiQn. A
water view pathway sh4uld like the park p�reel at Hopewel�. Lane ta the park
p�rcel link�.ng Ke11.er Park. The acreage af this parcel� hc�wever� ean be reduc�d
by 3p-4b� tp 2.5-3.� acres. Mr. Kopischke offered �aany posit�.ve �dea.�i
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�IQTZ4N; That a let�er be sent to the Sien�.�. Cor�ac�rat3.nn i.ndicatin� that P1an A
as pr��ented �a �he Park Committee regardin� park dedic�tic�n at Lac
Lavon is unacceptable, that the input from the �ark Cc��nmittee as to
wha� is deemed aeceptable be inelud�d and that the �aenr�a C4rporatic��:
w�.11 present a ske�eh pian �rith madificatians ta the Park Gc�mmitt�e before
�k�e park Committee will send thear T'E?Ct>TxifTi�21�.c'�$7.t321 ta �he Planning
Cammissian.
�I�CU�SSI��V: M�. Rankin asked if the madificataans tn their Plans � & C'
should be a.ncluded--Ido. The letter wi.11 b�± �hrased posxtively af
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PARK C�MMI`�TEE MINUTES
January 15, 'i 98�
Pa�e 3
the meri�s af each Plans B and C.
VOT�� Ye s� �; NQ, 4. B�Y�/RAI!d��N'
�. t?I.d �u�iness.
a. Park Guide Let�er and Di�tributian--Nfr. �urban r��aart�d this will be
r�adv far th� February 5 meeting.
b. Car�roll Farm Prc�perty--160 acres so�.d; Nfr. Curban re�ort�d meeting
w�.�h Mr. �ink�er to pres�nt a.dea.s fca� park d�dzcation and that h�
was receptive. He wi11 be bra.n�an� �c�r�h a �ketch plan in Februa,ry
or March.
c. �astview Spor�� Cc�m�lex--Mr. G�zrban indic�.��d the developer is �urchasi.n�
�`?5 �cr� parcel (S'eed Estate} giving 7.� a�res far park dedic�tian
( ��ae dev�laper shou�.d be encouraged ta pur�hase �� acre� to '� �.cres
�rauld be ded�c�ted', )� ne�o�iate �ith the �ehool dis�r�.ct tc� purchase
6-? a�res, an,d the 2-� acres �rom pbndin� dedicatic�n (��O} would tc�tal
1�;..1g a�res needed. A wa�an wheel sports campl�x confi�uration, a.s
desired� twa tenna�s eourts� an additianal �c�ccer fie�.d (the school
has one)y wa.th gond planningy as many a� 22-�5 acres a£ ].and could
be secured,
M(7�'IC�N:.That Items � and 7 be tablad; t'�e�e items wi11 appear on the February 5�
V��E:��Ye� ,5.�,.�.i� No� 0. _____..____��..u�.���....,�,�.,..��..,..�._�.�,_nm...�_,�'�tTRNER/BC}YI3 �
&. �'abled. Reva.ew caf '1984 Tssues.
7. Tabled, I�sues fc�r 19$�.
8. �ther.
It was suggested. that Committee members consider their rea�a�aoint�aents �nd
ec�ntact Council L�.aasan Humphre� as to their desires.
Mr. Kop�.schke questioned whether the recam�endatians regardin� �'lans B and C
were cl.ear �o everyone and for his own c1.ar�.f�.catir�n, summara.zed what h�d
preva.causl.y been discussed«
A11. Member� £eel it is neces�ary to complemen� what is happenin� (has happend)
an the Bur�a�vill� side of Lae Zavon.
Ms. Boyd re;norted th�.t Mr. Cariyle Mit��►►�11. w��.s warking on rough draft €�f the
fzrst program tca be air�d on Gable TV and that a c�ll had been received from
Mr. Uan Davies af Metro Cc'��.e indicating he is anxs,ou� for the commattee� tQ
be�;in public �ro�ramm;ing.
q. MQT�tJN: by Ms. Ranki�.� secc�nded by Ms. Boyd to adjourn �he meet�.ng at
'14t35 P.m,
VC?TE; Yes� �� IVo, 0,
Ch�arman Appr�val
Staff ��v�.ew
CC�; A11 P�rk Comm�.tte� Member�
C�.ty Council Re:.id �'i1e
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