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CITY OF APPLE VALLEY
PARK COMMITTEE MINUTES
MARCH 17, 1981
PRESENT: Chairperson Virginia Sterling, Douglas Dahlent Rita Gutenkauf,
` David Mi11er, Robert Naegeli, Terry Langager, Staff inember Mike Bassett.
ABSENT. Joanne Hollenbeck
City Council Member Barbara Savanick arrived at 8:45 p.m.
Chairperson V. Sterling called the meeting to order at 7z05 p.m.
Terry Langager was welcomed as a new member of the Park Committee by V. Sterling.
Mi�utes of the March 3, 1981 , meeting were approved as mailed.
PRESENT!�TION BY THEATRE 196--USE OF FARQUHAR BARN--Dick Anderson� Vice-President
of Theatre 19
Also present� Paul Mathey, Artistic Director, Theatre �96; David L� Lindstrom�
President; and five other members� Theatre '196.
Mike Bassett prefaced the presentation by Theatre 196 explaining the interest
this group has in talking to the Park Committee and possibly the City Council
concerning the use of the barn at Farquhar Farm. Theatre 196 i� interested '-
in the potential renovation of the barn to make use of that facility as a
performance center for community plays, etc. ��Je are concerned with where
Theatre 196 has been, where it is going and how it could fit into the city's
plans.
Dick Anderson began his presentation by passing to each member a proposal for
an Apple Valley Arts Center. Theatre 196 wishes a performance base inside Apple
Valley. They have been receiving support from School District 196 by using the
Little Theatre a� Rosemount High School. Within School District �96, Apple
Valley is where the action is� all members of the Board af Directors of Theatre 196
are from Apple Valley, most of the audience and those on the mailing list are
from Apple Valley. Th� main objection to the eontinuing use of the Rosemount
�ittle Theatre is location. Most of the audience is from Apple Valley. People
also tend to associate Theatre 196 with the school district and think of it as a
high school organization. Theatre 196 are concerned with projecting an image of
being a community theatre.
So that the Farquhar Barn could be used to the greater benefit of the community�
Mr. Anderson felt this facility should be termed an Arts Center. Theatre 196 is
not big enough to justify the use of the entire facility just for themselves. As
detailed in the proposal, the Arts Center could be a multi-function facility:
Performing Arts (Community Theatre, Children's Theatre, Historical Pageants, just
to list a few examples) , Visual Arts (for example , antique shows, exhibits, and
local history museum) , and Community Activities (community socials, dances, club
meetings, as examples). Thes� are just suggested ways a facility mi�ht be used
with no commitment that they would serve all these purposes--these are ideas
of what might be acco�►plished. The Farquhar Barn area could be used as a summer
theatre facility--the first theatre in open air. An inside theatre facility where
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the audience could be seated on two sides, u�ing removable chairs ar other types
of portable seating. This seating could be moved or rearranged for dances�
lectures, films, and other uses.
Included in the proposal from Theatre 196 is a Bibl.iography of whieh Arts Centres,
Every Town Should Have One ana Will It Ntake A Theatre? are two of the books
Mr. Anderson sho�red the �roup. The second book deals with converting existing
buildings into theatre,s and discusses safety, local 1aws, toilet facilities�
width o£ aisles, etc. The remainder of the pri�ted proposal contained copies
of ne�aspaper articles that dealt with Theatre 196 and a list of its Board of
Directors.
DI�CUSSION: Chairperson Sterling asked ifthey want the Park Gommittee to renovate
Farquhar Barn?
Mr. Anderson stated that Ti�eatre 196 operates on a very small �ash
flow. A production costs about $1 ��00 and their past rate of success is to break
even. Theatre 196 is lookin� for ZMAGE--how the publie and Theatre 196 perceives '
itself--searching for an identity and looking for a H�ME is part of the pracess.
Rosemount Little Theatre is ideal except for its location--Theatre 196 wishes
to fe�l a closer bond with its audience composed maily of Apple Va11ey residents,
Use of App1e Valley High School Theatre--is beyond the ability of
�heatre �96 to use. The seating capacity at AUHS Theatre is 6�4. A comrnunity
theatre is much smaller and more intimate. The long-range goal of Theatre 196
is to perform at AVHS Theatre.
Audience--Rosemount I�ittle Theatre seats 1&�� and they have less
than 50/ capacity. Parkin� should be considered for 50 cars.
Charge for Performances--9�3.50 for adults, �2.50 for students and
senior citizens; a 50¢ discoUnt on both �v�es of tickets if pre-sold. Some
advertisements are so1d. Response from busi�esses in Apple Va31ey seems more
favorable than Rosemount.
Committee member Terry Langager stated that there was support from
city of Rosemount� the initial dollar amount from Parks and Recreation in 1978
was a couple of hundr.ed dollars, the School District gave some money the first
year� but now contributes use of the faeility. Last year custc�dial fees and
theatre use.
Ferformances He1d--primarily durin� theatre season; summer productions
are almost like a second season since audiences tend to decrea�e. S.ummer stoek
theatre is one way to fill the void. Mr. Anderson desires that Farquhar Barn
become a year-round theatre facility. He welcomes summer theatre but still wi11
not be satisfied until it becomes a year-round Arts Center.
Funding--is unfamiliar to Mr. An.derson, but the thinking of Theatre 196
i� to expect to pay some form of rent. Typically, arts are supported in that
much of the costs are underwritten by a large orJanization like municipal government
Use by other groups while theatre in production--usually a s�age is
tied up for two coeeks prior to opening night but not always. �7avid I,indstrom�
Presiden� of Theatre 196, explained when the faeil.ity is used at Rosemount High
School, a curtain can hide the sta�e area. It depends on how the facility is laid
out; a fixed portion of the stage can be tied up but not necessarily the entire
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stage area. Mr. Paul Mathey, artistic director for Theatre 196, told of portable
sets and other arrangements which can be used for productions depending on the
type of play to be presented.
Farquhar Barn has a seatin� capacity of 80-'I00 people.
Da4id Miller expressed further concern as to how much Farquhar Barn
would be tied up when Theatre 196 is performing and practicing to that other
activities could be carried on at the same time. Mr. Anderson pointed out in
the proposal that they (Theatre �96) see Farquhar Barn as a multi-functional
facility. Theatre 196 needs a HOME for a certain amoun± of time� and an audience
that irientifies with Apple Va11ey has been developing.
Miller stated he sees the need of audience facilities� a lobby�
restrooms, working space, construction rooms, workshops, storage space, lighting,
etc. Lighting could be conceivably be providec3 by Theatre '196.
Mr. Bassett expressed concern that the area they seem most interested
in serving is Apple Valley. The population o� Rosemount is expeeted to double
or triple as new developments are completed. The the Philosophy of Theatre 196
to serve District '196 or just Apple Valley.
Mr. Anderson feels the theatre and arts are important in the community
in which you live. Mr. Bassett wondered if it would be just Apple Va11ey Theatre
in the long term. Anderson spo&e of theatre people not being bound to audition
for plays just in the community where they Iive. Theatre people consider an entire
area and will audition for plays wherever the opportunity exist.
Mr. Bassett felt the options discussed by representatives of Theatre196
would not limit the scope of the building. Each of the �ee areas or levels
could have multi-purpose uses. The City would control the types of uses and rent
urould be involved.
Mr. Bassett reported the one hundred thousand dollar T,awcon Grant
had -been approved by the Federal Government. From that grant, 80-100 thousand
dollar� could be used to renovate Farquhar Barn and farmstead. There wi11 be
an architect working with the City.
Theatre 196 is very interes�ed in imput and sug�ested the committee
invite other arts concerns in to see e�hat they desire as to how the facility could
also serve thern.
Popularity of Theatre '196--sees themselves as performing small scale
works and staying; they desire a Community Theatre, they wish to stay in the
community and are willing to make a long-term commitment to the City of Apple
Valley for a certain number of years.
Ms. Sterling pointed out that �utting Farquhar Barn on the National
Historic Register would not alter the use of the building.
No commitment to Theatre 1o6 can be made at this time, but the
�ratitude of the committee to Theatre '196 for their presentation was expressed by
Chairperson Sterling.
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March 17, �981
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REVIE`� DAKOT� COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN--Mr. Chuek Lowery� Director of Parks�
Dakota County, and Ms. �arbara Schmidt
The Metropolitan Land P1.anning Act requires a parks plan as an element
in the County Comprehensive Plan� The Park System Policy Plan, which examines
the existin� and future status of parks in the County Park System b5r establishing
goaTs, objectives, and polica.es for �akota County� has been prepared to satisfy
that requirement and to update the �975 County/Regional Park System P1an. The
Comprehen5ive Plan includes 5 parks--Thompson County Park, Zebanon Hills Regional
Park, Sp�i�� Lake Regional Park Reserve, Lake Byllesby Regional Park, and
Miesville Ravine Regional Park Reserve, which is to be acquired. The County�s
role in the area of parks ar�d recreation involves acquirin� and developing
a County Park System, operating and managing county-owned parks and recreational
facilities, planning and implementing a variety of trails within �arks, along roads
and trail corridors, and input into the planning efforts for federal, state,
regior.al, and park and recreatioral facilities. A major func�ion of the County
Park System is to provide 1arrTe parks for recreational activities that are not
usually available at the 1oca1 level. Users from a large area� sornetimes beyond
County boundaries� are attraeted. With this concept there are also big problems.
Concern is for �reserving the quality of Holland Lake, which at 90 feet is the
cleepes�; it is a good fishing lake. McDonough Zake could become a children's
fishing lake. Swimming activiti.es would be limited to Schultz Zake so that necessary
supervision can be provided. Larger picnic areas will be developed near .+'�e perime-
te� of the park north of Jense Lake and west of the Zoo. Lebanon Hills Regional
Park is about 3� miles long� and �z to 'I� miles wide.
DISCUSSION: Eees tc� be charged--Generally, char�es will not be made for using the
park except for special uses. People feel tax money is tied up in p�rks
and Mr. Lowery stated he would dislike havin� to close the parks to any-
one who just wanted �o sit by a lake and enjo3T nature. Example of special
use--paying to swim where life guards are on duty.
Policing the Parks--The Dakota �a��.nty Park System has its otian palic�
force and woula be responsible for policing the areas.
Metro Council--has not yet accepted the plan. This council oversees
park development in the seven-county metropolitan area,
Mr. Lowery feels it is extremely important that the land needed be
purchased now rather than say ten years from now. Improvements wi11 come when
people can afford to �ay for them. It is important not to develop beyond what
facilities can b�� maintained.. But if you have the land, you can later develop it.
Key aspect is to make the land open and useable. Re�ional funds for acquiring
and development of lar�e regional parks and park reserves make up the largest
portion of the total expenditures for the County Park System, approximately
�9.5 �illion, or 86% of the total expend�tures.
Minnesota Zoo officials are not concerned about how further development
will affect them.
Lebanon Hills Regional Park current2� consi�ts of approximately 2'100 acre.
and is 3�fz mzles long and /z to 'I�z miles wide. This area provides a lot of
activities for people.
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Si�ns--routed signs �•�ill be used where they are not likely to be
taken. International signage would be u�ed ,;rhere theft is likely
to occur. Reading signs will be necessary for persons using the
facilities.
It is expected the Dakota County Comprehensi�re Plan wi11 be ap�roved
in 2-3 months by the Metro Council. �3�5l004.O0 has already been set aside; bonds
have already been so1d. There is strong feeling that the plan is a couple of
months away from apnroval.
Lebanon Hil1s Regional Park Master Plan--addresses the development
of LHRP has been submitted to the Metro Council for approval of development funds
i•�ith development planned to begin in �g8�.
ARBOR DAY ACTIVITIES--�ave Gullifer, City Forester
The Apple Valley Reforestation Committee is also the Apple Val�ey Park
Committee. Previous diseussions have expressed coneern for observing Arbor Day
crith the possibility of planting apple tree� at the Farquhar Orchard. Th�re was
an apple orcharr� at Farquhar, so this Urould be an a�propriate observance.
MOTION: by Robert Naegeli� seconded by Vir�inia Sterling, for the Appl.e Valley
Reforestation Committee to plant ap ple trees at Farquhar 0rchard May 9, 1g81 , at
1U a.m.
�iscussion�, Dave Gullifer st�te�. the trees should be_ planted west
of the Farquhar Barn on the hi11; 30 tr�ees would be planted. Cou�.cil mernber
Savanick wondered if the scouts could be involved in the �lanting of the trees.
Miller su�gested the planting be the commit�tee 's res�onsibility.
VOTE: YES--UNANIMOUS (Motion aU stated by Naegeli)
Additional Discussion--Re�ent and Harrelson are two of the types of
apples to be planted. Gutenkauf will be responsible for contacting the "Country-
side" and "Pioneer Pressr' for newspaper coveraoe. Mi11er will contact the "Star"
and the "Tribune." David Gu11if��r will be responsible for navin� the apple trees
with instructions -on planting and any tools and other preliminary preparations.
OTHER I�E�IS:
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Trash Cleanup--Councilmember Bar�ara Savanick would like to have groups
that a�e in�erested gather trash in the parks on an informal basis. l�r. Bassett
stated a major problem is supervision of projects but certainly things could be
worked out. He also suggested pair�ting, uaeeding sand areas, etc. as other possible
projects.
Lawcon Grant--was again reported by Mr. Bassett as bein� funded and
that nQw real decisions can be made. He, understandabl�,is very pleased this
grant was approved to that now dollar figures ean now be attached to specific
park needs.
Golf Course Building--fifty percent of the building is being done
at the VTC in Rosemount� and will hopef�zlly be completed by June '10. Tt will
have indoor runnin� water, restrooms, kitchen facilities, etc. The golf course
will open in 'I-2 weeks.
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Ski and Boot Rental--was very well received the three days this
service could be offered.
Park Security Light at Walnut Park--is now within 4 feet of the
re�ently installed street light. Mr. Bassett wil.l have the security light
moved elsewhere.
Naming of Parks--Mr. Nae�eli reported he attended the City Council
meeting of Mareh 12 and was extremely disappointed regarding the matter of
changing names of city parks. Council may now rename enery park. This item
was tabled in Council meeting to April 30. Thus the Park Committee cann.ot
make any signs. The Park Committ�e feels that names should not be changed
without good reason. Namin� the parks has become a problem out of proportion.
TheHistorical Committee and Park Committee submitted their list of park names
to the Council with the Council to make the final decision on the park name5.
Mr. Langager suggr;sted the Park Committee submit a list of names for the �a�ks
and ask City Counci.l to come back and tell the committee what they wish the
Park Committee to do �ith this list. Ms. Savanick felt the names must be
carefull� selected to avoid a future problem with na.cknames be attached to the
parks.
MOTION: by Robert Naegeli, seconded bJ Douglas Dahlen to adjourn the meeting.
P�Teeting adjourned at 10 p.m.