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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/07/1980 . �ITY- OF APPLE VAI,LEY , PARK COMMITTEE October 7 , 1980 PRESENT: Dennis LaComb, Joanne Hollenbeck, Mike Bassett , Giny Sterling, Ca,rolyn Rodriguez, Bob Naegeli , Rita Gutenkauf ABSENT : Dave Miller 1 . Call to order The meeting was called to order by Ginny Sterling at 7 : 00 PM. 2. Approval of minutes from September 16, 1980 Meetin�. Additions and corrections were asked for. None were mentioned. The minutes were approved as mailed. 3. Discuss �radin� at Chaparral Drive Park - Mr. Mark Gjerde will be present. Mr . Gjerde of Palomino Hills reiterated that he understands that a 3-1 vote cannot be brought back up. He expressed that he does have some concerns and comments as to the decision that was made . Mr . Naegeli asked Mr. Gjerde what he felt our decision was before . Mr. Gjerde said that he understood the decision was that there will be no grading of an open play area on the top of Chaparral Park. Bob reiterated that decision as we voted to delay it at this �' time because of concern over the barriers being put in by Mn/Dot. There is a possibili�ty of gaining more land for the park. i Garolyn Rodriquez said that Mn/Dot has changed the plans several times and �he Park Committee is not sure of the actual amount of land they will have for the proposed park. Mr . Gjerde said that as of the Planning Commission meeting, the walls were exactly where they had been planned. Ms . Rodriguez asked Mr. Gjerde if he knew when they would be erecting the barrier. Mr. Gjerde said it would be started in May 81 and would be done prior to freeway opening in about a year. Ms . Rodriguez said it should be done so that it would not be a was�� of time to grade now and again after the wall is up. She reiterated that the committee said they would like to look at the park problem again in the spring. -2- • • Mr. Gjerde wants a firm decision that the grading would be done within a certain time frame . He understood that it would be done this summer. He expressed is concern about the funding next summer. Ms . Rodriguez and Ms. Hollenbeck expressed their concern about grading and leveling at the present time due to incompletion of the freeway and walls themselves . Ginny Sterling read a letter to the Park Committee from David Miller. (see attached letter) . Mr. Gjerde expressed his concern about three areas at this time . He said he felt that there was a tremendous need for an open play area in his neighborhood. He feels that there is a need to keep children off of the busy streets in the area. Belmont Park has tennis courts which limits open space for play. The Freeway has taken some of the natural park area away from around his home which also eliminates some of the natural skating areas in the winter. His second concern is the use factor. There are approximately 100 children in the area who would use the park instead of riding to Belmont Park. His third concern is a. r�ommitment on the committee ' s �art to g�'ade the p�.�k land. I�e would like a definite yes to lnsure the commitment on the park committee ' s part. Mr. Gjerde feels that he has been burned a great deal in the past and is not sure that the Park �ommittee wi11 follow through with their suggestions . Ginny Sterling explained the Comprehensive 5 year park plan by saying th�.t the Chaparral park is in section 16 of the comprehensive plan which in.cludes Belmont, Chaparral, Herita e Hills and Palomirio Hills Mini ,park and sta:te� that a �mall play�,ap�par�.�tus area and development of a pathway are mentioned. He feels that the need is satisfied until 1983 as far as population growth is concerned. It basis this on 3 acre� per 1 , 000 people . She then read the remainder of that section of the comp . plan. Marlys pointed to map to clarify park area to be developed. MS . Rodriguez is concerned about children crossing streets to get to play areas . She feels we do have an obligation to provide some kind of open space for children to play in. I3ennis LaComb would like to convince Mr. Gjerde that we will do something but wants to wait for the barriers to be errected by Mn�Dot. Marlys said she talked to Mr. Sandol of Mn�Dot and he said the birms were in and that bids were let to be started for lumber for �he wall. Mr. �'andol feels that there is plenty of time to get bids and the wall should go in in the spring. Mn/Dot said that they would be happy to deed the land (4�0' ) back to the city because they really do not want it. _3_ � � Mr. Naegeli agreed again that it would be wise to wait for the barrier to go in for grading. With winter coming, all the grading might be lost to snow melt. Ms . Sterling w�s pleased to find out that there would be an additional 20 ' and said she would hate to see the park committee have it graded and possibly waist the 700 dollars when it will be needed in the spring. Ms . Rodriguez recommended a motion to the effect that since it appears that the sound barrier will go in in April that we make a motion that we will grade that area as soon as soon as the barrier is up so we can take advantage of the additional 20 ' . Ms . Hollenbeck does not want to make any motion at this time . Joanne Hollenbeck told Mr. Gjerde that the comprehensive plan is the park commission' s guide . It is not a commitment. It is not like a legally binding document. Mr . LaComb asked that it was his understanding that it was going to be done anyway. Why not make a commitment. Ms . Sterling said that there is $1700 available for grading and seeding. It is available for that purpose and is in the bank collecting interest. Mr . I��omb agrees with Ms . Hol3enbeck but does not want to be that specific . We had planned to do it anyway. Ms . Hollenbeck does not feel that this petition should have been brought up again at all. Mr . Naegeli reconfirmed to Mr. Gjerde that the Park Commission is committed to the park area in Chaparral. It is in the minutes of previous meetings. He reassured him that we will grade the area in the spring. It says in previous minutes that we will put an open area in the 150 ' available to us . He also assurred Mr . Gjerde that the commission will stay with the comprehensive plan whenver it is possible . Mr. Miller said that we have a commitment if not a moral commitment to try to adhere to the comprehensive plan put forth a few years ago . Marlys suggested to Mr. Gjerde that he put it on his calendar to call the City in April of 1981 to reassure the starting of the park project. Mr. Gjerde felt that would be possible and he would have to settle for that decision at this time . -�- • . 4�. Future Role of Park Committee Ms . Sterling asked the floor for some thoughts on this matter. She inform�d the committee to the tot lot equipment bids which would be opened on October 1�th, 1980 at 2 P .M. The bids will be discus�ed at a special meeting on October 15th at 7 PM. Marlys invited the committee to an open meeting of the Burnsville Park committee to discuss how Apple Valley golf courses fit into their park systems. Meeting is Oct. 21 at Burnsville High School at 8 PM. Mike said there would be a joint meeting with the Planninc Commission concerning Lebanon Hills Golf Course . All who could. attend would be welcomed. The meeting is Weds. , Oct . 22, 1980 . Mike Bassett suggested that there might be some work to be done concerning Dakota County Park and the ski trails in the park with the Apple Valley Park areas and ski trails. He said John Gretz is working on a trail plan for the future and it is in need of a bond issue to implement it. Ms . Sterling is concerned that after the play areas are finished, the 5 year comprehensive plan will then be finished. Therefore , She would like to discuss if the park committee would then be interested in working with the trails. Mr . Naegeli assured the committee that we are not considered an on-going committee as per the by laws which have not been accepted formerly. We are considered a committee in contention but our present status will still stay. Marlys assured the committee that the trail plans will keep the park commission going in the future . Nlr. Naegali said table to spring. 'S. Discuss application to put Farquar Buildings on Historic Register Mike Bassett gave an expla.nation of the Farquar Buildings . If these buildings are put on the state register, than the City can then apply for money for improvement to the buildings . We must put the buildin�s on the historic register first, then the Historian Preservation funds can be applied for . If the money is forthcoming, then we can renovate such things as the barn. If it costs �,�0, 000 we would be able to receive �2�,000 . What it would be is restricting because a grant would be submitted which would take a great deal of time . (see attached memo) We now have �60,000 in the park bond for building renovation and if we are successful, we could double the money. There would be a 30-�5 day period and we would then know where we stand with the money. Mr . Naegeli wanted to know how inflation would effect our money. Mr. Bassett answered by saying about 12� per month. � _5 � Ms . Rodriguez suggested that we start work on this now so that we do not lose any money to inflation. Mike Bassett has seheduled a meeting with a contractor in St . Cloud (Miller Construction) for suggestions on how to repair the barn. The best way to renovate the barn would cost approxi- mately $16 ,000 to $20, 000 . We would then have a new basement. Aproposal will be submitted next week for consideration. We can submit the grant for any portion of the project. Mr. Bassett recommended that the buildings in Farquar be put on tne historical register to enable further decisions on the grants, MOTION: by Naegeli to go ahead with the basic fundamental con- �truction in order to preserve the barn. Seconded by Rodriquez. YES 6 NO 0 motion carried Mr . LaComb asked if there is a use limit when a building is put on the historic register. Mr. Bassett will check on this and return to the next meeting with an answer. MOTION: Ms. Rodriguez made a motion about putting the buildings on the historic register subject to committee approval . Ms . Gutenkauf seconded. YES 6 NO 0 motion carried. 6 . Namin� of Parks Ms. Sterling explained the naming of parks. Marlys suggested that after the historic committee comes up with names that a full package be . presented to the council for approval so as not to delay any full action. There was a suggestion to change the spelling of Farquar park to Farquhar. Marlys suggested that this might not be possible due to the fact that the lake is Farquar and is registered with the DNR . MOTION: by Naegeli to spend up to $�00 to build a skating rink at Apple Valley East park. Ms . Rodriguez seconded. YES 6 NO 0 motion carried. Tousignant Park title tabled until next spring along with the Farquar spelling chan.ge . 7 . Develo,�ment a. Parking lot for Scott Highlands Tennis Courts (see attached diagram) Mike explained. We cannot use Andy' s market any longer with parking facilities due to his increase in business . He requested that we provide our own parking. Mr. Bassett recommends that we ad a curb cut and fill class 5 for about $5,000 . A cost estimate will be forthcoming. The money would come out of a con- tingency amoung in the bond progra.m. Mr. Naegeli suggested grading now and asphalt in the spring. � -6- • Mr. Bassett will get final prices so that further consideration can be made at the next meeting. b. Additional costs for fencing at Valley Middle Mr. Bassett explained that this is needed to complete a existing 12' fence that is already there. The additional funds would be $84�7 . This has already been done . c . Heritage Hills parking/path Mr. Bassett explained that the drinking fountain and path �z.nd p�rkin� will be �.one in the spring due to the settling of the di�ch for wate'r service to the new drinking fountain. d. Additional fencing at Hagemeister Mr. Bassett suggested that a 6 ' fence (100 x 6 ' ) be put at Hagemeister. A $750 cost is needed for a chain link f ence . MOTION: by Naegeli that we put in an additional 100 ' x 6 ` fence at Hagemeister. LaComb seconded. YES 6 NO 0 motion carried 8 . Other items by committee Mr. Naegeli suggested that a security light be installed at Belmont Park. It is very dark and dangerous. Mr. Bassett will rieed price information from £?akota Electric to add this light to some other work that is on tap far the future. Ms . Rodriguez suggested that there is some problem with the piano lessons at Hayes Commun�.ty Center. Mr . Bassett said he would take care of that problem. MOTION: by LaComb to adjourn the meeting at 9 :10 PM. Seconded by Naegeli . Meeting adjourned at 9 :10 PM.