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HomeMy WebLinkAbout04/17/1979 , � � � . CITY OF APPLE VALLEY PARK COMMITTEE MINUTES APRIL 17, 1979 PRESENT: Chairman Joe Bell, Park Committee members Ellen Milos, Bob Naegeli, Ginny Sterling, Dave Miller and Mike Bassett, Park & Rec Director. ABSENT: Joanne Hollenbeck and Carolyn Rodriguez. 1. Chairman Bell called the meeting to order. 2. The <minutes of the Apri1 3, 1979 meeting were approved as written. 3. Discuss Naming of Parks with Historical Committee. Members of the Historical Committee were present to discuss suggested park names with the Committee. (See attached copy of inemo from the Historical Committee to the Park Committee.) Marlene Romain, Chairman of the Park Committee, gave some general comments on the work done by the Historical Committee. I�. �he names recornmended ta the Park Committee the basic theme was "settlers in the area". She referred to Alister Cooke's three most important factors in preserving history - the windmill, the American plow, barbed wire. The historical aspect in the names is basically a preservation of the names of the early pioneers; the common ordinary pioneer families. The Committee discussed the memo. Joe Bell stated that he feels that it is good � for the "feeling of the co�unity" and goes along with names of historical ; significance for the parks. Ginny Sterling stated that she does not feel they should change the names of the parks that are already established. Ginny Sterling stated that she spoke to Joanne Hollenbeck and she asked that they not act on the names tonight because it is impossible for her to be present. Dave Miller stated that the Historical Committee has gone to alot of work and he feels they should move forward. The Committee reuiewed each recommendation individually. MOTION: of Bell, seconded by Naegeli to recommend to the City Council that the park located on 131st Street and Johnny Cake Ridge Road be named the Hagemeister Park. Discussion: Bob Naegeli asked how they parks wi11 be identified. Joe Bell stated that it is his understanding that the City will put some type of plaque at the entrance which will give a similar type of explanation to the one included in the memo. Mike Bassett stated that they will probably ask the Historical Commi.ttee to come up with something that would fit on a small plaque. Ginny questianed who would pay for the plaqu��. Mike Bassett stated that he doesn't feel that the plaques would be a big problem. VOTE ON MOTION: Yes - 5 - No •- �. MOTION: of Bell, seconded by Sterling, to r�comimend to the City Council that � the park located at 139th Street and Johnny Cake Ridge be named the Moeller Park. Yes - � - NO - 0, \ Page �k2 : Park Committee Minutes� . 5/17/79 • Carl Mitchell explained th�:t he spoke to -the property owners and they are three fellows from Norway and they named the area Nordic because of their common heritage. There was some opposition on the Park Committee and it was agreed to table Nordic Park until a later date. Marlene Romain stated tha t the name recommended for either Greenleaf Phase IV Park or the Diamond Path Park is "Indian Trails Park". She stated that Bob Tegeder researched the Indian Names for Apple Valley and found that �:�ere was not an Indian Tribe that actually settled in this area, however, they did travel through the area. A1an Kohls stated that he researched the area for historical family names and found that the land had changed hands many times ov�:r the years. Marlene Romain reviewed some of the Indian names that Bob Tegeder had presented. It was noted that the Dakotah Indians traveled through this are and a park could � be named Dakotah Park after that Indian tribe•. . Ellen Mi1os stated that she likes the Indian Trails Park name -- you could list all the different tribes on a plaque. Ginny Sterling stated that if a park were named Dakotah Park it might be confused that it is a County �ark. She also suggested using the name Delaney Park for one of the two parks. Mike Bassett also noted that the Diamond Path praperty also goes back in the Corrigan family. MOTION: of Milos, seconded by Sterling to recommend to the City Council that the Diamond Path Park (located in the Diamond Path Addition) be named Indian Trails Park. � Joe Bell stated that he feels that the Indians deserve more than "Indian Trails." He is more in favor of De3:aney or Corrigan Park. Ellen noted that she likes the Indian Trails Park idea and list the Indian Tribes that traveled th�ough the area on the plaque since there was not a particular tribe that settled in the area. Carl Mitchell stated that he has done considerable research and the Sioux or the Dakotah Indians were the primary tribes that were in the area; however it could not be pinpointed that any tribe ever settled here. He recommended Dakotah Trails Park. There was considerable discussion regarding both the Greenleaf Phase IV Park and the Diamond Path park and the need�for names of these parks. Vote on Motfon: Yes - 0 - No - 3 - Abstained - 2. Arleigh Thorberg was present at the meeting and stated that no one was more sorry than he that question ��2 on the bond issue failed. He noted that Mr. Steve Delaney worked harder in the 60's for the City than any one individual. He would like to have the school named after Mr. Delaney; however, they do not want to name the schools after individuals. He would like to have a significant park named after Steve Delaney. A1an Kohls noted that any park in the area of the middle school property should be named Delaney Park. That is where the family lived. MOTION: of Sterling, seconded by Bell to table the Greenleaf Phase IV Park and the Diamond Path Park until a later date. � The Park Committee will set up complete criteria for naming of the parks before they continue with any of the names. It was suggested that possibly the Histor- ical Committee could come up with some Indian Name or an Indian Word that means trails for one of the parks. Vote on motion; Yes - 5 - No - Ob Page 3 • � Park Committee Minute� 4/17/79 � Mrs. Scott was not present at the meeting; however, Mrs. Romain stated that the reason Mrs. Scott asked th at the Galaxie Park be named Will Scott Park is because she doesn't feel that there is anything at the Scott Highlands Park. Ginny Sterling noted that they will be putting $53,000 into Scott Highlands Park and she feels one Scott park in the City is enough. She suggested putting a Scott plaque at the park entrance and commemorate all of the Scott's. Marlene Romain suggested that Mrs. Scott should come to the Park Committee meeting and explain her views. The Committee again discussed setting some type of criteria for naming the parks. Ginny stated again that she doesn't see a need for two Scott parks and also noted that there are streets named for the Hayes Family and also the Strese Family. Bob Naegeli noted that the Park Committee asked the Historical Committee to look into historical names and recommend names for the parks and he doesn't feel they should skip what the Historical Committee has presented to them at this time to go back and come up with criteria. Marlene Romain also stated that she spoke to Joanne Hollenbeck and Joanne stated that she feels very strongly that the Westview Complex should have a different name and agreed with the Hayes Field idea, She noted that there is alot of con- fusion with the Westview School and the Westview Complex. Joe Bell stated that he doesn't see a problem with changing the name. He feels very strongly that the Committee needs to set up rules and criteria for a way to go about it. He suggested that maybe the Historical Committee can come up with some criteria. � MOTION: of Bell, seconded by Milos, to delay action until the Committee has a set of criteria for naming the parks. Mrs. Romain noted that there are four City parks and two schools on Hayes land; it was Hayes land for over a century. Dave Miller stated that the Committee asked the Historical Committee to come up with suggestions. He feels that it is proper to look at the theme that was set; look at some direction and proceed. The historical significance is still here. Bob Naegeli stated that he doesn't see a problem; Delaney Field was decided in one night, why not continue on with the Hayes Field recommendation tonight? He feels that the criteria was set for the parks that are being addressed. Bell withdrew the motion. He noted that from this point on the Comm�ttee must set some criteria before continuing with the park names. The Committee stated that they would like to discuss Mrs. Scott's recommendation with her at a future meeting. MOTION; of Miller, seconded by Milos to table the Galaxie Park recommended change and ask Mrs. Scott to come to a future meeting. Yes - 6 - No - 0. The Committee agreed to discuss the Westview recommended change to Hayes Field. Ellen Milos stated that she feels that the name "Westview" has as much �haracter as a piece of macaroni. It needs to be identified separately from the school. Alot of people do.not realize that they are two separate entities. She doesn't � feel that it has been called Westview long enough to have any historical signif- icance and it wi11 be called Hayes Field for a lot longer in the future. - �a.ge ��4 park Committee Minutes� � 4/17/79 Dave Miller stated that he can remember back in 1966 when it was stated that the � land in that area belonged to the Hayes Family. Joe Bell stated that he can see the confusion with the community center and the school. MOTION: of Milos, seconded by Miller to recommend to the Gity Council that the Westview Complex name be changed to Hayes Field. Yes - 4 - No - 0 Abstained - 1 (Sterling doesn't feel we should rename parks that already have names.) Joe Bell stated that he wi11 contact Marlene Romai n to further discuss criteria; he will meet with the Historical Committee on May 8, 1979 to work out some ideas. 4. BMX TRACK - Joe Milbauer of Bike 'n Ski. Joe Milbauer explained that the BMX Track is for nonmotorized bicycles. He stated that there is only one other track:in the State and it is located in Minnetonka. That track opened last year and the response has been wild. Mr. Milbauer showed a film that shows what the BMX Track is and shows the children racing. He stated that he is representing the Optimist's Club and they would like to establish a track in Apple Valley. The track could be used during the week by the kids and organized races would be held on Sundays. Ginny Sterling questioned insurance and Mr. Milbauer stated that the Optimist's Club does have a blanket coverage for the organized program, Joe Bell questioned the area that would be needed. Mr. Milbauer stated that the track covers less than an acre. They need something with a little bit of a hill. The Scott Highland's Park does have a good terrain for the track. At the present time they are looking for something � temporary to see what is going to happen. One of the problems in that location would be parking. They like to stay away from a residential area as much as possible. Joe Bell questioned the number of injuries. Mr. Milbauer stated that Minnetonka did not have any �njuries last summer. The speed is relatively slow as it is strictly "leg power". Mike Bassett asked about a timetable. Mr. Milbauer stated that they would like to get something going by Memorial Day weekend. It will take some preparation to get a track in shape. Mr, Bassett stated that the City liability will have to be checked out. He also noted that 140th will be under construction in that area this summer and also the park may be under con- struction as a tennis court is proposed for the corner. Bob Naegeli asked if it would be a temporary situation, Mr. Milbauer stated that they are looking for a location for this summer; they would like to run four or five races in June, July and August. Mr. Naegeli stated that if it is successful; this year then where wi11 they go next year. Mr. Milbauer explained that the track is nothing more than a dirt path. Nothing as far as equipment would remain in the area. Mr. Milbauer stated that he will get further information to the Park Committee members as to what is involved in,the races. This wi11 be further discussed at the next Park Committee meeting to be held on May 1, 1979. The Park Committee discussed the fees and people coming from outside of the commun- ity to participate in these races. The Park Committee members agreed to table the remaining items on the agenda until a later date. � Meeting adjourned. I