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Home My WebLink About12/04/1979 � � CITX OF APPLE VALLEY PARK COMMITTEE MINUTES DECEMBER 4, 1979 PRESENT: Chairman Joe Bell; Committee Members: Dave Miller, Ginny Sterling, Carolyn Rodriguez, Bob Naegeli and Ellen Milos. Park Director Mike Bassett, Councilmember Marlis Overgard, Harold Skjelbostad, InterDesign ABSENT: Joanne Hollenbeck 1. Chairma.n Bell called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. 2. Minutes of the November 20th meeting were corrected to read as follows: Naegeli said Burnsville will write a joint resolution and submit it to the Apple Valley Park Committee for approval before sending it to the County. Regarding the Diamond Path Park, Rodriguez did not mean to eliminate free skating, rather move it to another location. Minutes of the November 20, 1979 meeting were approved as amended. 3. Bassett passed out copies of a joint resolution prepared by Burnsville regard- ing Lac Lavon. The Park Committee was very disappointed with the resolution , as it does not state strong favor for acquisition. The Committee requested using the original resolution that was prepared in August. (Harold arrived at 7:21) . MOTION: by Naegeli, seconded by Miller, to send the original resolution to the Council with a cover letter stating that is has been sent to Burnsville Park Commission as a result of the joint meeting. VOTE: Yes - 6, No - 0. RECOMMENDATION: To include names of the Apple Valley Park Committee members and Burnsville Park Commission members on the resolution. 4. Review Park Design Plans - Harold began by reviewing the three parks with the most changes; Apple Valley East, Diamond Path and Farquar. Naegeli asked that the previous concepts he shown also for comparison. DIAMOND PATH - The Diamond Path concept was reviewed and the new concept design plan looked much more functional. Soccer fields moved further North. Both soccer �ields and softball fields will need grading. The building will have a direct South orientation. The tennis courts were moved closer to play area. Retention pond re-shaped and open skating moved to higher elevation so building and skating pond on same elevation. Naegeli concerned with softball outfield distance to residential area. Harold stated there is approximately 290-300 feet to the homes. Harold stated that due to the changes some pathways may not be paved but the heavily used paths should be completed. � � Park Committee Minutes December 4, 1979 Page - 2 FAR UAR - New concept looks good. Access of Pilot Knob to parking lot, with rest of road converted to six or eight foot pathway. Additional expense incurred for seeding vacated road shoulder. Open field will be graded and not established as a ballfield. Naegeli would like to see trail from play area to tennis court, rather than at the North end. Sterling concerned with activities at barn or house, especially Senior Citizens, with distance to parking lot. Harold said the pathway can be driven on just as maintenance vehicles do. Release chain barrier for handicapped or Senior Citizens. APPLE VALLEY EAST - New concept looks good. Play area placed Northeast. Has steep grade but fits well in location. Retention pond re-shaped and kept more in the middle. FINDLAY - Pathway construction over dollar amount set aside and Harold suggests eliminating plantings to defray cost. Bell suggested wood chip trail through wooded area only. Naegeli believes paved pathway necessary as he envisions future trail to zoo. Concept good. GALAXIE - The grading is complete for the permanent hockey rink and is now settling. The boards will not be perma.nently placed this year. The lights are on order and should arrive in December but will not be installed until next year. Ma.rlis questioned the layout of the ballfield and if the sun would affect the players. Harold stated that only first base would get sun in late afternoon. Possible future off-street parking from 139th Street or from Galaxie Avenue. Mike stated that we should consider baekstop in the North- Northeast corner. GREENING - Proposed upgrading of existing play area, add picnic tables and benches and plantings. Bell asked what type of trees are proposed. Harold said plantings referred to are all trees of full canopy type for shade. Concept good. GREENLEAF - Proposed plantings for tennis court for shade and wind screen. Add picnic tables and benches, and upgrade existing play area. Bell asked if game court would be lined. That would be accomplished in house. Concept okay. GREENLEAF IV - Two property lines must be established accurately. Possibility exists of placing another soccer field. Much discussion over trails. Rodriguez questioned whether existing trail cuts through soccer field. Difficult to judge new trail from existing trail. Bell asked if a different color could be used f.or existing trails. • i Park Committee Minutes December 4, 1979 Page - 3 HAGEMEISTER - Ma.jor expense being the shelter building, sewer and water. Building will have South exposure. Hockey rinks will be placed North/South. Sterling asked if hockey could be placed nearer soccer and baseball field so those fields could benefit from lighting over-spill. Harold stated there is not enough room, as it is, the soccer field is not full-sized. Rodriguez concerned about erosion. Bassett explained natural ravine which carries the run-off. Should review drainage run-off from hockey and skating rinks. Bassett stated that location of parking lot should be re-considered. 139TH & JOHNNY CAKE - Ballfield same as shown. Naegeli questioned the cost of single and double tennis court, perhaps place a single at Hagemeister and a single at 139th. Save approximately $5,000 by building double and the new school at 140th most likely will have tennis courts. Area available for free skating. Harold should include skating area and when school has skating, we can eliminate it from the park at anytime. Concept okay. KELLER - Proposed tables and benches, plant trees. Naegeli suggested install- ing a stand-up barbeque pit. Add car stops to control parking lot. Plant many trees and/or shrubs near homeowner. Concept okay. LONG LAKE - Proposed grading, grubbing, play equipment, pathway, tables and benches. Plans to grub out area and open it toward the beach, possible canoe launch. (Milos left at 8:50). Naegeli mentioned the narrow shoreline as a valuable trail link to Farquar. Property not buildable, very ma.rshy. HERITAGE - Last park to be reviewed. Has tennis court and open field. Recommend placing signs so public knows it is a City Park. Sterling recommended eliminating play equipment. Rodriguez believes Palomino Hills should have a tot lot as promised, either at Heritage or Chaparral. Much discussion followed whether a play area should be included in either park as that area also needs ', open space. Neither park appears to be suitable, Heritage has a terrible access and Chaparral doesn't have enough room. Miller is against a tot lot in either location, does not want loss of open space or trees cut. Bassett recommended I, Harold hold tot lot at either location and bring Chaparral concept to next , meeting after reviewing feasibility of getting at least a small play apparatus I area at Chaparral. I, i Future Meeting Dates - Next meeting will be December 18 at 7:00 p.m. (Sterling I��i unable to attend) , and January 8, 1980. j 5. Other Business - Miller recommended the Reforestation Committee get started on ' a program for plantings and involve civic organizations. Bell will bring recommendations in January and set a target date. i • Park Committee Minutes December 4, 1979 Page - 4 ' 6. Discuss Park Ordinance - The Park Committee discussed the Park Ordinance that the Urban Affairs Committee recommended. Naegeli was not in favor of their revision on Page 8, Section 14, Paragraph 2, in that he believes the wording ' is too restrictive. Bassett believes curfew necessary and concerned with allowing liquor of all kinds in the park. Sterling recommended forwarding the ordinance to Council so that they can see both sides - the Park Committee recommendations and the Urban Affairs recommendations. Bassett said a decision is not necessary at this time. The Committee should review and send to Council when they are satisfied. Hold off until January. 7. MOTION: By Sterling, seconded by Miller to adjourn at 9:35 p.m. ,