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Home My WebLink About11/20/1979 CITY OF APPLE VALLEY � PARK COMMITTEE MINUTES , NOVEMBER 20, 1979 • PRESENT: Chairman Joe Bell, Committee Members: Dave Miller, Ginny Sterling, Bob Naegeli, Carolyn Rodriguez, Councilmember Marlis Overgard, Park Director Mike Bassett, Harold Skjelbostad, InterDesign. ABSENT: Ellen Milos and Joanne Hollenbeck l. Chairman Bell called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. 2. Minutes of the October 30 and November 6 meetings were approved as written. 3. Review of Park Design Plans - Chairman Bell stated that 10 parks per meeting will be reviewed. Miller asked what happens when bonds are authorized for sale and don't sell? The approval does not expire. The Council will be taking bids on Thursday, November 29 which includes $145,000 in park bonds. APPLE VALLEY EAST - Proposed sliding, skating, play equipment, open area, tables benches and plantings. The present status is undeveloped and approximately $17,000 set aside for development. The question being what can we afford now, not .total need. Naegeli questioned moving the play area. Design has it too far from residential area. Harold suggested draining one area of the pond to keep it very shallow for free skating. Sterling questioned the maintenance on a natural pond. With the pond being shallow flooding could still occur. Committee agreed the play area should be placed in the Northeast corner near homes and future development. To keep costs down, few plantings are planned. Sterling questioned if tennis courts are planned. Bassett responded yes, but � not included in five-year plan. BELMONT - Plans to improve existing trails, add benches and play area with tennis courts. Discussed the option to purchase additional land at $5,000 per acre. The corner lot includes 1.7 acres. Soil borings will be taken after the first of the year to see if it is suitable for tennis surface. Palomino Hills area needs open space, consider filling the pond with fill available from the 35E project. Committee tabled Belmont development until soil borings are completed. , (Councilmember Kelly arrived 7:35) . CEDAR KNOLLS - Existing is tennis courts, BMX track and play area. The play area is located between tennis court and BMX track. Naegeli believes play area should be closer to tennis court to make it more visable. No trails are programmed but has existing trail. The area including the BMX track has an erosion problem. The Committee asked that Mike Bassett drop a note to the Optimist Club and ask for their cooperation in correcting the erosion as tfiey originated ti�e�BMX track: Miller believes they should continue to show responsibility. CHAPARRAL - Nothing existing. Proposed play equipment, tables & benches, trails. No plantings are needed. Miller prefers to leave natural, eliminate play equipment and save up to $5,500. Rodriguez questioned how the development of 35E would affect run-off. Overgard stated that the construction will not affect the ponds. Committee agreed to eliminate play equipment �.nd leave entire area open green, and place connector trails between ponds. • Park Committee �inutes� � November 20, 1979 Page - 2 • CITX HALL - Major cost for City Hall Park is water service for approximately $2,500. Also proposed tables & benches, play equipment. Sterling questioned if civic groups could build play equipment. Harold stated the results are usually dis- couraging. The high cost of fixtures are due to manufacturer ma.rkup. Staff should determine what kind of fixtures and where to purchase, they do not have to be purchased and installed by TnterDesign. COBBLESTONES - Undeveloped. Most difficult park, almost inaccessible. Question of where play area should be located and why was it moved? Harold said because of development and use of existing structures and future expansion. Naegeli believes original concept closer, new plan has play area buried and too far to reach; also �nstall signing to find the park. Bassett believes the play and picnic area should be closer to the lake. VOTE: Bell, Naegeli, Rodriguez, Sterling to have play area closer to Holyoke and 138th St. Ct. ABSTAIN: Miller. Does not approve of placing play area in backyard of existing residents but look ahead to future development. Bell suggested holding off on a decision until the Gity gets a firm commitment from Palomino Development. DIAMOND PATH - Undeveloped. Proposed shelter building, ball fields, tennis, hockey • lighting, parking, grading, sewer & water and pathway. Naegeli asked why tennis court location was moved? To serve the high use area off 147th street and combine with active area. Sterling stated that soccer and baseball should be separate fields, not combined. Bassett stated that the slope ot the hill would have to be cut and that being very costly. Rodriguez believes high need for more game space, at least 2 soccer fields and l baseball field. Suggests eliminating free skating and move the tennis court. Access on 147th a major link to Northeast and future trails. Suggestion to flip-flop ponding to accomodate three flat land functions. (Bell left at 8:55, turned the meeting over to Sterling) . DUCHESS - Existing ballfield, play area. Leave as is, upgrade but don't change. Add plantings. FAITH - Proposed play equipment, security lighting, free skating, tables & benches. Try to get the ska.ting closer to ballfield to utilize lighting. The two existing play areas are to remain but to add additional equipment to one only. FARQUAR - The $60,000 set aside for upgrading is a low figure for restoring buildings. Would like to see play area closer to the barn. Important that children be near meeting center to be seen by parents. Decided to eliminate the hockey rink. Sterling asked to eliminate the ballfield and leave as open green space. Bassett suggested changing the entrance road to save the shoreline and add a parking lot west of the house. Discussion followed as to placement of entrance road. It is important to keep access from Pilot Knob. Naegeli suggested using existing Pilot Knob access_: as `access to a parking lot and convert shoreline road to a � trail to play area. (Garrison arrived at 9:30) e Leave beach area for future consideration. � � Park Committee Minutes November 20, 1979 � Page - 3 Sterling asked the Committee if they felt reviewing 10 parks per night was adequate or to many. Naegeli stated that it is important that all concepts be reviewed before January. If necessary, the Committee is agreeable to meet late afternoons to see all drawings. The most substantial changes are at App1e Valley East, Diamond Path and Farquar. Harold was asked to bring these ' changes in rough form to the next meeting. He will bring the other concepts also. At the next meeting Findlay through Long Lake will be reviewed and discussed. The next Park Committee meeting is schedtiled for December 4 at 7:00 p.m. and again on December 18 at 7:00 p.m. 4. Recommendations on Park Ordinance - Tabled VOTE: Yes - 4, No - 0 5. Other Items - Discussed briefly the joint meeting with Burnsville. The general concensus being that Burnsville is interested in Lac Lavon as a local gain rather than regionally. Burnsville will write a joint reso!lution with Apple Valley and submit it to the County. Burnsville is �.lso interested in linking the ski trails in Alimagnet park and maintain equally. 6. Adjourn - Meeting adjourned at 9:50 p.m. • �