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Home My WebLink About02/22/1978 " _ � . . CITY OF APPLE VALLEY PARK COMMITTEE MINUTES February 22, 1978 PRESENT: Roger Wangen, Bob Naegeli , Ellen Milos, Joe Bell , I�ike Bassett, & John Voss. ABSENT: Jake Frank and Ginny Sterling Chairman Wangen called the me�ting to order. Minutes of the February 8, 1978 meeting were approved as written. The remainder af the:evening was spent in discussion regarding the Comprehensive P1an Updste under the direction of John Voss, Planning Consultant for the Comp. Plan. Attached is a brief outline of areas that were discussed and covered. Voss reviewed the proposed and present parks on the Land Use Sketch Plan Map. He noted that the majority of the decisions for future parks is in the Southeast area of the City. The Carroll Property could provide a Central Park which has been dis- cussed in the past. This would be adjacent to the commercial area.'� The required dedication for that area would be about 16 acres; a Central park would probably require �5-30 acres so additional land would have to be acquired. The Park Committee � might want to look at the possibility of a park in the Woods area and also south of the Metro Park. The City is about 1/3 developed at the present time -- it will probably need 85 to 100 more acres of Parkland. There was considerable discussion regarding the possible change in the Park Dedication requirements. At the present time Apple Valley probably has about 17,000 more units to develop. Some of these have satisfied their Park Dedication requirements. If the City would charge $200.00 per unit with the building permit a considerable amount of cash could be accumulated. Voss indicated that the $200 per unit figure is reason- able; when you ask for $300 you are edging into trouble and any more would probably not stand up in Court. Not a very large sum of money will be derived by taking cash in lieu of land. If at satura�i�n'you_propose.:: 44 neighborhood parks; nineteen are developed and you will have 25 more to develop. This would exclude the corr�nunity parks and athletic fields. With an average of $80,000 per park development costs the City would need to spend $2,Q00,000 developing the Neighborhood Parks. Wangen stated that the park committee would like to find a method whereby they could have a combination of land and cash park dedication. They would also like to eliminate the necessity of going to the public every five years with a bond issue. Voss stated that the cash will help, however will not eliminate the necessity for a bond issue. He stated that under item E -- Capital Improvement Plan -- the Park Bond Issues and Capital Expenses need to be addressed. He stated that it is important to Plan -- how many years the bond issue will take care of. The City is missing the opportunity to get grant funds because they do not have the matching dollars. In the Capital Improvements Plan which is a part,of the Comprehensive Plan it is determined what is the most important priority to the City. Determine what is needed for Parks. It � can be supplemented by funds received with a building permit. The Capital Improvements Plan would state when it is the best time from a fiscal standpoint to have a Park Bond Issue; and where the needs and priorities are for the community: Voss added that it should be looked at in conjunction with the School District. He stated that the school district is also required to do a Comprehensive Plan and submit it to all the effected communities. � - �age #2 ' i�ark Committee Minutes • • 2/22/78 • Voss stated at this point the Land Use Plan needs to be approved as well as a Trails �, Plan. Then they will go back and work on the dollars needed for the Capital Improvements Plan. A gross dollar figure will need to be determined for the long range land use planning of the community. The Capital Improvement Plan is not detailed, but rather general . The Metropolitan Council requires that each City has one. The Trail System was discussed. Voss stated that the Goals & Objectives of the Trail Plan need to be established by looking at all the possibilities. Either provide them within the community or within a reasonable driving time (15 minutes to 1/2 hour). A list of different types of possible trails and where they could be provided was discussed (see attached). The Sketch Plan of the Trail System was discussed. The proposal follows the major and minor arterials. Voss noted that the City has required the developers to dedicate easements in some areas and also has required development of some of the trails. It was noted that when the roads are improved it is possible to get funds for trails along with the road construction. There was some discussion regarding splitting the cost for the trails with the County or State Highway Dept. when the roads are built. The availability of grants for building Trails was also discussed. In the Capital Improvements Plan the cost of the Trails could be included with the upgrading of the roads. The number of and location of under/over passes needs to be decided. The costs are extremely high so a signalized intersection will probably provide the crossing in most areas. The gasline easement was discussed as a possible location for the Trails. Voss suggested that the Park Committee go out and walk thru some of the areas where they feel would be a good place for the Trails. The Zoo Road and loeation of the Trail was discussed. The Trail will be located within the road right-of-way • and the crossings will be at grade. The costs of a trail and where the trails have been built to date were discussed. Voss stated that he would like any recommendations and preliminary approval so that he can proceed to the Planning Corr�nission with the Trails Plan. The Committee also discussed designating one side of the road for bicycles and another side for jogging and walking. Garden View Drive was used as an example where there are sidewalks on both sides of the street. Ellen Milos asked about what you would look for if you walked the areas. Voss commented on `the Long Lake & Farquar areas -- will an underpas� be feasible. Where the trails follow the road there shouldn't be a problem. The Trail connections will have to be coordinated with the other communities. The Park Committee recommended that the Trail along County Road #42 be continued to Burnsville -- and the City should encourage Burnsville to continue the trail to the shopping center. Theimplementation plan for the Trail system will be developed after the Trail Plan is adopted. Bell questioned dates for completion -- Voss stated that would be a part of the Capital Improvements Plan, some could be incorporated with road construction. The upgrading of Cedar Avenue was discussed. Mayor Branning stated that the present plan is to c�ntinue to 139th Street; continuation to 150th Street is a third priority. The City would like to see Cedar Avenue upgraded to 150th Street. � MOTION: of Naegeli , seconded by Bell that the Park Committee adopt the preliminary Trails Sketch Plan dated November, 1977 including the following additions: The Trail be continued to the west boundary of the City on County Road #42; that a map showing bicycle and pedestrian trails be provided in the form of and overlay; that access be shownn:� into Alimagnet Park specifically from the south. And that a separate document be provided showing snowmobile trails. ' . ' " �age #3 Park Committee Minutes • • 2/22/78 � Discussion: Naegeli stated that the snowmobile trails are not in conjunction with the Trails Plan as it changes from year to year. Voss stated that there is an obligation to address the question of snowmobile trails. He feels that a document should be drafted stating that the "snowmobilers° be provided with "in and out" priveleges and that the City continue to work with the Snowmobile C1ubs. Voss also recommended that the Park Committee meet with the President of the Snowmobile Club. The Gity could recommend that Holland Jensen be developed to accommodate snowmobiles. The Park Committee should look at the Trail Plan and determine what they can provide and what they can't provide -- where is it available to the residents of the City. VOTE ON THE MOTION: Unanimous. OTHER ITEMS: Naegeli asked about the "Naming of the Parks° program. The Historical Committee is working on this. Wangen noted that he has not spoke to Mrs.Romain recently. ' Meeting adjourned. � �