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HomeMy WebLinkAbout08/15/1978 • • CITY OF APPLE VALLEY . PARK COMMITTEE MINUTES AUGUST 15, 1978 PRESENT: Roger Wangen, Ginny Sterling, Ellen Milos, Dave Miller, Bob Naegeli , Joe Walz. ABSENT: Mike DesParte & Joe Bell . Chairman Wangen called the meeting to order. Minutes of the August l, 1978 meeting were approved as written. Chairman Wangen noted that Mr. DesParte will be resigning from the Park Committee as he is moving from Apple Valley to Whitehall , Wisconsin. The remainder of the meeting was spent reviewing the concept plans of the parks. SECTION 27: City Hall Park: The concept plan was discussed. Committee members questioned the hard surface basketball court shown on the plan. If a bas�etball court is installed it should be just a 1/2 court surface. The Park Committee members would like Mike Bassett's comments on a hard surface area for this park. Scott-Highlands: Ginn�; Sterling commented that they have had complaints because of the boulders and rocks on the sliding hill in this area. Bob Naegeli stated that he is • coneerned about the grading in this park -- something needs to be dane so it doesn't look like a jun� yard. It was noted that last bond issue $2,000 was allocated to this park for grading. The Park Committee wants to be sure that a sufficient amount of money is allowed to grade the hill and improve this park. SECTION 28: Westview: Joe Walz reviewed the present condition of the area, also what was proposed or t e ast bond issue. Bleachers have been discussed for the Westview Complex. Wangen questioned what is being planned for the "Eastview Complex", he feels that the Park Committee should have something to look at and the peop�e living on the east side would like to know what the plans are. It was noted that the school plans to purchase forty acres for a middle school/elementary complex. Naegeli stated that the Park Committee planned to purchase forty acres for just the athletic mmplex the last bond issue. Wangen felt that the information is needed as soon as possible for the complex. Walz reviewed some of the items that were noted in the Grant Application for the �rea. A sprinkling�:system was discussed for the Westview Complex. They questioned if this shouldn't be included in the five year plan. Paving for the parking lot was also discussed. Should that be included in the park fund? SECTION 29: Alimagnet: There are no funds involved in this area; the additional acquisition that was proposed in the last bond issue will not be included this time. Sterling questioned when the park will be finished. Joe Walz stated that the City is anticipating completion • next spring. , Page #2 Park Committee Minutes � 8/15/78 • • Redwood North: Walz reviewed the present condition of the park and the proposed improve- • ments. E en Milos questioned building improvements for the Pool & Racquet Club -- Mr. Walz �tated that that comes under maintenance. Walnut Park: The location and present condition were discussed. This is separated from A— ��net Park by a berm. SECTION 32: Keller Mini Park: The present condition and propo�ed improvements were reviewed. Naegeli wou d i e to see that park fenced or shrubs planted to separate the park from the property owner that lives on the corner on Redwood. It was noted that funds were included for landscaping in the last bond issue. The Park Committee would like to make sure that that money provided for landscaping is used for a separation between the park and the property owner on the corner. Wangen noted that Precinct #1 voted 177-No to 75-Yes. Naegeli stated he felt alot of the reason is the vote was against Alimagnet. Redwood South: The present condition and proposed improvements were discussed. A parcing area was discussed to be located off of County Road #42 toward the east of the park. Sterling recorr�nended that a parking area be located on the corner of Elm Drive and County Road #42. The corr��nittee members felt that. this park could then get better use. Dave Miller stated that he wouldn't encourage on-street parking along Redwood; he felt the parking area shown on the concept drawing should be elimin�ted along Redwood. The Committee was in Agreement with having the parking on the east side of the park. • Valley Middle: The present condition was reviewed and the proposed improvements. Wangen questioned the location of the tennis court. Sterling stated they were proposed for the corner of Garden View & Baldwin; one of the reasons was because of accessibility. The ballfields were discussed. SECTION 33: Duchess Park: Ginny questioned what happened to the skating rink that used to be there. She sta�- e� that when she toured the parks and asked the children what they would like in the parks; one of the comments at Duchess is that they would like the skating rink. Joe Walz stated that one of the reasons it was eliminated was beceiqse of maintenance and they did not feel it was getting enough use. It was also noted that the play apparatus equipment needs improvement. The Park Maintenance crew will be questoned regarding a skating rink in this area. Naegeli noted that it might be good to assist in the passage of the bond issue. Greening Park: �he skating rink in Greening Park was not flooded last year either. Walz stated that with the Park Crews plowing the sidewalks and trails last year that he thought some af the skating rinks were eliminated. It can be addressed for this winter. Drinking fountains in Greening were also discussed. The park committee would like to know what the dollar maintenance Eosts are for flc�oding and maintaining the skating rinks. Newell Park: Ginny Sterling recommended that a table and benches be added to this park. T e7i re are aTot of small children that spend ti�e in this park. The gas easement abuts • the park so allows more room than is shown. - • PAGE #3 . Planning Commission MIn� • 8/15/78 � Pennock Park: The present condition and proposed improvements were reviewed. Ginny ter ing recommended including some type of a shelter building for the ice rink for this area. Possibly a structure that would be similar to the school bus shelter buildings. She felt this might be a "Vote Yes" aspect for that particular area. Cedar Park Elementary: A concept plan should be drawn up for this park. Longridge Park: A concept plan should also be drawn up for this park. Wangen questioned if there were any other changes that should be made in the proposals. Wangen then`asked about aspects that are proposed that would have people vote YES or aspects that might make them vote N0. Roger stated that he is concerned about the Trail through Findlay Way Park; he feels that the people oppose that trail as it could be a link to the Zoo and does not see a reason for it to be in the Park. The other members of the park felt the trail should be in the park. Wangen stated that he would like a concept plan for the proposed Eastview Complex and also stated that some of the people on the east side have asked about having an out- door swimming pool on the east side. Should that be included in the bond issue? Dave Miller stated that the climate in Minnesota is not conducive to outdoor swimming pools. Joe Walz stated that the municipalities in Minnesota are not building outdoor pools. St. Paul built a combination -- the Oxf�rrd Pool -- he suggested that the Park Committee members take a look at it. He didn't feel that the cost was significantly more for the combination than for just the indoor pool . An indoor pool will be built � with the Eastside Middle School . Wangen questioned justification of an eastside athletic complex. Naegeli stated that he did not feel they could eliminate the athletic complex for the east side to justify the pool . Sterling noted that they have discussed a swimming beach at F�rquar Lake Park. Wangen stated that alot of people do not li�Ce swimming in the lakes because of the leaches, etc. Wangen stated that if the bond issue is similar to the last bond issue which was for $960,000 adding 10% for increase in costs they would be asking for $1,056,000 for a park bond issue. Wangen recorr�nended that they go to the Council with a two-part issue. $700,000 for general park development and improvements and $300,000 for purchase of land and develop- ment of an athletic complex. Sterling would like to have it stated that Part A must pass before Part B can pass. It was questioned as to how you would vote if you didn't like part A. Why not leave as two separate questions to stand on their own merit. Ellen Milos felt that the general welfare of the overall park development shouldn't depend on the one issue. It was questioned whether an outdoor swimming pool could be included as a Part C. Wangen stated that the VAA would like to see if they agree with the p��ns for the parks. He suggested that they be invited one night and let them review the concept plans and the proposals for the bond issue and give the Park Committee their opinion. They would like to have the feeling of many people in the City. Sterling questioned what happened to the questionnaire. She recommended including some- thing in The Countryside which is a free newspaper that is delivered to all the residents of the City. Joe Walz also stated that The Council Table will be going out in the near future and a questionnaire could be inclu ed in t at. � Joe Walz also suggested that the Park Committee ask the different service organizations and groups to fill out the questionnaire ; distribute it at a meeting and ask to fill it out during their social hour. Naegeli fel:t that that it would be a good idea. , Page #4 Park Cor�ni ttee Mi nutes . � � 8/15/78 Sterling felt that something needed to go to all the residents. Joe Walz stated that � you could do both -- put it in the newsletter and contact the civic groups. Dave Miller asked if consideration had been given to polling people in a particular area. He recommended getting some high school kids to go to the gas stations -- people have to wait to have gas put in their car -- he felt this would be�better than at the shopping center because there people are hurring someplace to do something. At the gas station that are "waiting". Ellen Milos suggested using the mailing with The Council Table or newspaper; contacting civic groups and also use a poll for use at the gas stations. You might reach the same person three times; however, the information could be brokendown by different types of input. Wangen questioned when they should go to the Civic groups, etc. Naegeli suggested that they have all the information complete with cost estimates then ask for input. The Park Comnittee would like to know the cost of an outdoor swirrrning pool -- discussed including it as a Part C. Naegeli stated that if you look where the NO vote was -- an outdoor swimming pool isn't going to go over on the south side of the City. Roger asked the members to bring in a couple of proposals as to what should be included in a Part A or Part B issue. � Ellen M:i:los corronented that she felt it is important to get a letter of resignation from Michael DesParte so an appointment can be made to replace him prior to getting to far along in the bond issue plans. It was noted that the meeting time for the Park Committee will change to 7:00 p.m. starting with the September 5, 1978 meeting. MOTION: of Milos, seconded by Miller that the meeting be adjourned. �