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Home My WebLink About09/19/1978 � • • • CITY OF APPLE VALLEY PARK COMMITTEE MINTUES SEPTEMBER 19, 1978 PRESENT: Ginny Sterling, Bob Naegeli , David Miller, Ellen Milos and Joe Bell . Roger Wangen arrived at 8:00 p.m. ABSENT: None. Vice Chairman Sterling called the meeting to order. Minutes of September 5, 1978 were discussed. Bob Naegeli corrected the date on page 2 from September 20 to September 19. Minutes were approved as corrected. Agenda Item #3 -- Further consideration of questionnaire for civic groups: a. Review results of survey in Council Table. The Park Committee reviewed the results of the questionnaire in the Council Table -- twenty- six replys have been received to date. (See attached information regarcfi g t e results.) The Committee discussed the results of the survey. They would like to know where they are coming from. Miller stated that he feels that if they checked that they used the parks often or sometimes that those people would be a positive vote for an upcoming bond issue -- the NO answers in question #1 would be the more militant opposition. �he results of question #6 regarding the Historical Park were discussed. After the geaeral corr�nents are compiled they can be reviewed at the next meeting. b. Establish content of questionnaire. The members agreed to stay away from questions that ask for comments; it should be something that is "yes or no" answered and shouldn't take more than five minutes of the groups time to complete.Naegeli commented that he feels the committee needs the VAA support to pass the bond issue. (Roger Wangen arrived. ) Ginny asked the members of the Committee to take a look at the last bond issues that have passed. The fire bond and the last school bond both had a large group of supporters. She refered to the S.O.S. committee for the School Bond Issue. She stated that the Committee needs citizens groups that will support and get signs, etc. out to the people. Naegeli stated that he felt that the school bond and fire bond were both needed and they appealed to peoples emotions. Ginny would like to see a group of citizens that would help the park committee promote the park bond issue. They could get out signs, etc. and take the questionnaire to service stations, etc. Dave Miller stated that he is confused as to what kind of information the committee wants from the survey -- do we want to know where to spend the money or if they are going to vote for the bond issue. The Committee r�eeds to decide what kind of information we want. Ginny stated that with the Council Table survey everyone was given an opportunity to comment. �laegeli stated that he feels t e ommittee needs to first decide how the bond issue is goi;ng to go together. MOTION: of Naegeli , seconded by Wangen to table Agenda Item #3 (Further consideration of questionnaire for civic growps indefinitely� YES - 6 - NO - 0. � Page #2 • • Park Committee Minutes 9/19/78 �Agenda Item #4 -- Community Input. t Sterling stated that she was not able to get the list together of the neighborhood groups. MOTION: of Naegeli , seconded by Wangen to table Agenda Item #4. Discussion: The Committee felt that they should determine what they are going to include in the Bond Issue before they go to the residents. The Committee felt they need to know what it is going to cost and how it is going to be layed out before going to residents of the City. VOTE ON MOTION: YES - 6 - NO - 0. Agenda Item #5 -- Other Items. A. There will be a Joint Meeting with Lakeville regarding the Trail along Cedar Avenue on Tuesday, September 26, 1978 at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers. Bob Naegeli and Joe Bell plan to attend; Roger Wangen will also attend, however he may be a little late. Dave Miller and Ellen Milos will try to attend the meeting. B. BOND ISSUE PROPOSAL -- 1 - 2 - 3 PARTS. Bob Naegeli recommended a Part A of $500,000 or less with the most urgent needs of the system; this could include upgrading of what we already have; eliminate the frills. Sterling stated that she agrees that it is important to develop what we have. Bob stated that a Part B could include the extra facilities for athletics, etc. Ginny recommended a Part C .that could include a swimming pool . Roger Wangen recommended a Part A for $900,000 for development of the parks; Part B for acquisition and development of an athletic complex for $500,000 and a Part C for a swimming pool for $300,000. It was noted that the Park Committee needs to know what they can ask for dollar-wise in reference to the "debt limit" of the City. There was considerable discussion regarding having the second and third parts pass contingent on the Part A passing. Bell stated that in his assessment of how people are voting today is that they want to be able to say this is all I want and nothing else. He feels that people should be given a choice. Naegeli stated that they need to assess what is best for the City. The Park Committee is looking for the betterment of the entire park system, not just the athletic complex or athletic facilities. Bell noted that if A doesn't pass then you loose everything. There was also some discussion regarding why the last bond issue failed. MOTION: of Bell , seconded by Miller to recommend a three part bond issue with Parts B & C contingent on the passing of Part A; Part B cannot pass unless Part A passes; Part C cannot pass unless Part B passes. Discussion: Bell stated that he would like the Committee to move in a direction -- he does not feel real strong about the motion; felt they need to consider the people having a choice in the spending of their tax dollars. Miller refered to the apathy in the community and stated that he feels that it is the responsibility of the Park Committeeto establish the priorities. There are certain things that are needed and that is what needs to be determined. �OTE ON MOTION: YES - 4 - NO - 1 (Bell Abstained) The Committee agreed to a Part A which will include developing and improving the existing park facilities. � Page #3 ' � � Part B will include acquisition and development of an athletic complex, tennis courts, hockey rinks, baseball diamonds, soccer fields, etc. I.E. If B passes we will develop �dditional facilities; Part A will be minimal for athletic facilities. Wangen questioned how they are going to explain in the brochure what is in Part A, B, etc. when they show a concept plan of a park. Sterling explained the 1971 Bond Issue and how they showed the differences. They will have to pay for the necessities before they get the extras. The Committee should be very specific in what is in each part of the Bond Proposal . Part C could be a swimming pool and some other frills. The Historical Park was discussed and the Committee felt that it shoul'd be included in Part A and B -- the Committee is not proposing to do anything historical ; they would develop the Park -- possibly have a tennis court and ballfield. Wangen noted that he had been contacted by the Chairman of the Historical Committee regard- ing the question in the survey. They were wondering if the Park Committee had changed their mind in reference to Farquar Park being a historical park. Bob Naegeli stated that Part C could also include additional development of the athletic complex, some lighted tennis courts or covered tennis courts, lighted fields, etc. A camping facility was also discussed. Vice Chairman Sterling recommended that the Park Committee members review the System Plan and put their ideas down on paper as to what they would like specifically included in the Part A, B, and C, and bring it to the next meeting. �MOTION: of Milos, seconded by Wangen to adjourn. �