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Home My WebLink About09/12/2001 ! • MINUTES OF TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE September 12, 2001 - 7:00 p.m. Apple Valley City Hall COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: Linda Dolan, Arthur Zimmerman,Neal Heuer, Craig Anglin, Andy Pederson, Harald Ericksen COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABSENT: Dick Asleson OTHERS PRESENT: Pat Hughes (15274 Florist Circle) CALL TO ORDER Chair polan called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: of Zimmerman, seconded by Pederson approving agenda. Motion passed unanimously. APPROVAL OF AUGUST 8, 2001, MEETING MINUTES MOTION: of Ericksen, seconded by Zimmerman, approving the August 8, 2001 meeting minutes. Motion passed unanimously. AUDIENCE: FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA Pat Hughes, 15274 Florist Circle, expressed concern with regard to traffic issues on Flagstaff Avenue between County Road 42 and County Road 46 as well as traffic issues associated with the proposed Home Depot/Hillcrest Acres development just north of the Orchard Pointe Development. Mr. Hughes expressed concern with regard to traffic speeds and current volumes as the result of the Pilot Knob Road detour, lack of pathways, and school bus pick up and drop off locations. Mr. Hughes stated that the major problem is on Flagstaff Avenue between 153rd Street and County Road 42. Committee Member Heuer stated that the City currently has traffic counters on Flagstaff Avenue to measure the volume and speeds of traffic on Flagstaff Avenue. Mr. Heuer also indicated that the City of Lakeville has seen traffic increase on Flagstaff Avenue from 5,000 to 12,000 vehicles per day as a result of the Pilot Knob Road detour. Mr. Heuer indicated that Pilot Knob Road should be open by November 1, 2001. The Committee discussed the planning process for the Home Depot/Hillcrest Acres development and discussed possible solutions to Mr. Hughes concerns. Committee Member Pederson stated that he would communicate the concerns presented by Mr. Hughes to the City Planner for incorporation into the discussion regarding the development. FINDLAY AVENUE - FIRELIGHT WAY INTERSECTION At its August 8, 2001, meeting, the Committee passed a recommendation denying the installation of stop signs at the intersection of Findlay Avenue - Firelight Way; encouraging community involvement � � and communication; and directing staff to prepare a finding-of-facts and letter to be considered at the next Traffic Safety Advisory Committee meeting and then distributed to the neighbors in the community. Committee Member Pederson presented a draft copy of a letter to be sent to the residents of the neighborhood outlining the Committee's discussion and motion. MOTION: of Ericksen, seconded by Heuer, approving the letter to be sent to the neighbors of the Findlay Avenue - Firelight Way Intersection. Motion passed unanimously. TRAFFIC CONCERNS COMMUNICATED TO THE CITY Committee Member Heuer reviewed the traffic concerns communicated to the City over the past month. 2001 TENTATIVE WORK PLAN The Committee discussed and specified specific traffic concerns and locations throughout the City, including: Speci�c Traffic Concerns 1. Teenagers driving both before & after school gets out 2. Heavier vehicle traffic before & after school as a result of failed levy referendum. 3. Aggressive driving 4. Running of the red semaphores,multiple vehicles 5. Traffic speeds 6. Traffic volumes 7. Pedestrian knowledge of how crosswalks signals work 8. School zones,what is the law? 9. Slow children signs 10. Bicycle education 11. Pedestrian knowledge 12. Center turn lanes—education on how to be used 13. Lane and turn lane striping 14. Pedestrians in the street(walking,running),Use of sidewalks 15. Neighborhood safety camps (pedestrian,bicycles, etc.) 16. Stop signs 17. Goals of County/State versus City of Apple Valley 18. Reduce speeds 19. Trucking issue (aggregate) and jake braking, uncovered trucks, unsafe equipment 20. Parking near parks 21. Educate early(school education) 22. Crosswalks 23. Stop sign warrants 24. General explanation of warrants for traffic devices 25. Haul goods and loads safely 26. Parking around schools 27. Crosswalk paintings (uniform) 28. Location of sidewalks (lack thereo� 29. Neighborhoods should take a proactive approach to educating their neighbors � • 30. General road design 31. Signage (evaluation of existing signage,routine maintenance, inventory) 32. Stereos in cars (noise levels) 33. Balancing citizen desires with realities of signage 34. More parking at schools (special events, school days) 35. Mechanism to provide information and provide input 36. Neighborhood organization(Give problem to City without assuming responsibility) 37. Nighttime and weekend activities for kids 38. Parental responsibilities 39. Explanation of volumes (physical versus practical volume) 40. Inconsistency between cities and implementation of traffic devices 41. Right in-right out designs-poar 42. Small town atmosphere, yet city in larger metropolitan area 43. Reputation for Apple Valley as strict on traffic enforcement 44. Not on the fringe anymore, sprawl. 45. Road design, curbs and traffic calming implementation into new developments. 46. Suburban type environment 47. Expectations of living in Apple Valley 48. LED lights 49. Changing environment 50. Driver education classes (more involvement) 51. Lack of communication pieces 52. Costs-who is paying for this 53. Projected left turns 54. Emergency vehicles intersections and failure to yield and moving over for vehicles 55. Traffic congestion 56. New techniques, pedestrian countdown systems,photo cop 57. Video of traffic calming techniques 58. Use of web site to educate 59. Lack of effective traffic safety communication education to residents 60. Lack of goals 61.Reduce vehicles on roadway, commercial establishments 62. Jurisdiction-multiple govt. agencies Specific Traf�c Locations 1. East side of Garden View Drive adjacent to Southview &Valley Middle School 2. Traffic signal timing on 140th&Flagstaff 3. 136th to 140th Flagstaff, Findlay, Fawnridge, Fernando 4. Flagstaff Ave between 150th and 160th 5. Johnny Cake Ridge Road and 132nd St 6. Pilot Knob Road and 140th Street West 7. Hayes Rd. where the community center driveway comes out 8. crosswalk across 144th Street where Barbara Savanik Trail 9. Speeding complaints: 10. 143rd&Hemlock during construction period 11. 7600 block of 157th Street during early evening hours 12. 14400 block of Hayes Road 13. Flagstaff between 160th& CR#42 • � 14. Northbound CR#31 north of 140th Street 15. 140th @ 137tn 16. Curve at Embry Path 17. Co Rd 42 and Gardenview needs to be striped similar to the intersection of Co Rd 42 and Garrett Ave 18. Intersection of Gardenview & County 42: Leading up to the stoplight, Gardenview should have two lanes formed; the left lane for vehicles turning left onto 42, the right lane for vehicles turning right or going straight. Also, a left turn light should be added. 19. Intersection of Johnny Cake Ridge Road & 142"d St W: Consider replacing 4-way stop signs with stoplights. 20. Intersection of County 42 & 147th St(by Bachman's): a"No-turn" sign should be installed. Vehicles exiting the Wal-Mart lot onto County 42 shift over two lanes in less than %2 block, then wait for east-bound traffic to clear and then make a u-turn. 21. Intersection of Cedar Ave & County 42: Timer for the green light on 42 for east-west traffic should be lengthened. It seems most times that only 10-12 vehicles make it through before the light changes. 22. Intersection of Diamond Path& County 38: Traffic crossing 38 or turning on to 38 is very hazardous due to high speeds on 38, and poor sight lines on 38 when east bound. Consider center median to stop traffic from crossing 38. 23. Fischer Market Place 24. 147th Street&Foliage Avenue 25. Foliage Avenue &Florence 26. Garden View Drive & Whitney Drive-speed 27. 142°a Street&Johnny Cake stop sign-failure to stop. 28. 140th Street &Flagstaff(Volume) 29. Garden View Drive &County Road 42 (Turn arrow needed) 30. Post office(Garrett & 153ra Street) 31. Flagstaff& County Road 42 (Speed) 32. 157th Street & Galaxie (Difficult entering Galaxie) 33. 1515t Street & Garrett(Current 2 way stop needing 4 way stop) 34. Right turn lane at CR 38 ands 140th Street 35. Stop light on CR 42 and Hayes Road turn arrow 36. 137th Street at Wildwood Park- Parking 37. Greenleaf Elementary School parking 38. Galaxie Avenue corridor ADJOURN MOTION: of Anglin, seconded by Zimmerman, to adjourn the meeting. Motion passed unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.