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Traffic Safety Advisory Committee
City of Apple Valley
May 11,2005
7:00 p.m.Municipal Center
Minutes
l. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7:03 p.m.by Chair Arthur Zimmerman.
Members Present: Craig Anglin, Dick Asleson, Linda Dolan, Harald Eriksen,
Neal Heuer, Arthur Zimmerman
Members Absent: Charles Grawe
Consultants/Alternates Present: Tom Sohrweide
� Others Present: Valerie Thoennes,Todd Haugesag,Norm Bixby "
2. Approval of A�enda
Agenda was approved as presented.
3. Approval of March 9, 2005 Minutes
Minutes were approved as presented.
4. Audience Items . ,
There were no audience items.
5. Traffic Concerns on Palomino Drive(tabled from September 8 2004�
Mr. Heuer presented background to this issue and indicated the concerns were traffic speed,
mailbox access, and a request for an all-way stop at 131 St Street/Palomino Drive. Mr. Heuer
indicated traffic voluxne and speed data were collected. The speed limit on Palomino Drive is
45 mph to the west of Cimarron and 35 mph to the east of Cimarron. The speed data collected
indicates an 85�'percentile speed of 42 to 43 mph, which indicates the 45 mph speed lunit in that
area is appropriate. He further indicated the traffic volume data collected, when compared to the
Minnesota Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices warrants far an all-way stop, found an
all-way stop is not warranted at the intersection of 131StStreet/Palomino Drive.
Issues presented by the neighbors in attendance concerned a naxrower paved shoulder area in
front of mailboxes, the change in speed limit and speed limit location after construction, and the
level of enforcement.
Mr. Heuer indicated the resident was provided a rear access mailbox to minimize the need to be
in the roadway to access the mailbox. He also indicated the speed limit locations and speed limits
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were changed to be in accordance with adopted speed zones by Mn/DOT. He further indicated
since the data collected by the City with regard to existing speeds found those speeds to match the
speed zones, the likelihood of Mn/DOT changing the speed limits and their locations is not very
good. If the speed limits were studied by Mn/DOT, changes could be made that would conflict
with the desires of the residents.
The residents expressed their support for b eater enforcement effort and the use of the City's
decoy car,"Cax 54".
Ms. Dolan indicated busy streets are a reality and often times it is found the immediate
neighborhood is the biggest part of a speeding problem. She further indicated the Committee
utilizes the three Es, engineering, enforcement, and education. The neighborhood could assist in
the education portion of this process through leafleting, which would address the neighborhood
concerns and desire to control speeds in this area.
Mr. Heuer offered Pam Walters of the Police Departrnent as a resource for the neighborhood for
information that could be distributed.
The neighbors indicated they have done leafleting in the past and would consider some �
additional. They also indicated they do like the "Check Your Speed" signs the City has installed
on the speed limit signs in the area.
Actions as the result of discussion:
a) The Police Department will continue to enfarce the speed limit in this area.
b) "Car 54"will be used in this area when the vehicle is again available.
c) The City will consider a perinanent speed limit radar advisory sign at this location,
subj ect to effectiveness of e�sting signs and funding.
d) The City will check on replacing a tree that was knocked down across the street from
Todd Haugesag's house, 316 Palomino Drive.
e) The City will add an orange flag to enhance the presence of the "Check Your Speed"
sign.
6. Traffic Concerns on Pennock Avenue between 140�' Street and 138�'Street
No residents were present to discuss this issue. Mr. Heuer indicated several e-mails have been
received indicating cut-through problem for southbound traffic leaving Cedar Avenue and cutting
through the neighborhood during the p.m. peak hour. City staff has conducted three traffic counts
on different days during the p.m. peak hour and found a maYimum of 30 vehicles per hour
making a left turn from westbound 138`� Street to proceed south on Pennock Avenue. This is
approxisnately 1 vehicle every 2 xninutes and does not suggest a significant cut-through problem.
In conversations with Dakata County, Mr. Heuer indicated there were several days when Cedar
Avenue did have additional traffic due to work on I-35.
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As part of the study of this area, Mr. Heuer indicated the City has included $430,000 in its 2007
Capital Improvement Program to install left turn lanes on 140'� Street at Pennock Avenue.
Mr. Sohrweide reviewed with the Committee a proposed sia jpg plan for Pennock Avenue that
signs the three curves individually with differing advisory speed limits based on the degree of
curvature.
Ms. Dolan moved to approve the attached si°;ng plan as shown. Motion seconded by Mr.
Asleson.
Motion approved unaniinously.
7. Other Traffic Concerns Communicated to the Citv
a) Police Concems — Captain Anglin indicated a child seat safety clinic will be held on
June 4 at Wings Financials.
Captain Anglin informed the Committee there has been a fatality as a result of an April
14 vehicle�crash at the intersection of IDiamond Path Road/160�Street. �
General discussion occurred regarding the area of Diamond Path Road/160�' Street. Mr.
Heuer indicated Diamond Path Road is below traffic carrying capacity even with Pilot
Knob Road under construction. A traffic signal will probably be warranted for that
intersection when Diamond Path Road is extended to the south.
Mr. Eriksen requested the Police Department monitor vehicle speeding on 160�' Street in
this area.
b) Public Works Concerns—Mr. Heuer discussed the City's plan to coordinate with the City �
of Eagan in converting Johnny Cake Ridge Road north of McAndrews Road from a
four-lane roadway to a three-lane roadway with a two-way center left turn lane. He
indicated this is change will be a positive benefit to the School of Environmental Science,
who has had concerns about safety at their entrance.
There was concern on the part of one particular student who is conducting a project
related to safety at that access, that a recent traffic death was related to safety at the
driveway entrance. In fact, the traffic crash was in the City of Eagan, not near the school
entrance and did not relate to any concerns at the school entrance.
Mr. Heuer presented, for informational purposes, traffic complaints dating from
March 18, 2005 to May 10, 2005. In addition, Mr. Heuer informed the Comm.ittee of an
e-mail concern regarding`jake braking" on 160�Street and a request for a crosswalk and
traffic signal at 160�' Street/Granada. Mr. Heuer indicated signs are up signifying vehicle
noise ordinances are enforced and Minnesota State Statutes cover this issue. He also
indicated City practice would not look at installing a crosswalk on 160 Street at an
unsignalized location. A traffic signal in this area would increase vehicle noise for which
this resident had a concern. A traffic signal at Granada would not receive approval from
the Dakota County due to their traffic signal spacing guidelines.
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Mr. Heuer informed the Committee of the construction underway and associated traffic
control on Galaxie Avenue in the vicinity of 153rd Street and Founders Way.
Mr. Eriksen requested the City contact Wal-mart with regard to installing pavement
marking to indicate the exit lanes on their access at Pennock Avenue.
10. Education Issues
Mr. Sohrweide indicated he would provide the Comxnittee with the web address for the
Minnesota Local Road Research Board's web site on traffic calming. That web site is www.mn-
traffic-calming.org.
The Committee requested the City provide them with up-to-date City maps.
11. Adj ourn
Motion was made by Mr. Asleson to adjourn the meeting. The motion was seconded by Mr.
Eriksen. The motion was approved unanimously with the meeting adjourned at 8:58 p.m.