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Telecommunications Advisory Committee
City of Apple Valley
October 21, 1996
6:30 P.M. City Hall
Minutes
1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 6:35 by Chairperson Bible.
Members Present: Dale Rodell, Rollin Bible, David Westbrook, Scott Hugstad-Vaa,
John Magnusson, Jerry Brown
Members Absent:
Others Present: Lisa Washa, Gary Humphrey, Charles Grawe, Richard Kelley,
Denis LaComb, Thomas Creighton, Jane Bremmer, Dennis Miranowski, Gary Shade
2. Minutes of July 25, 1996
The minutes of July 25, 1996, were approved unanimous (Mr. Rodell motion, second by
Mr. Westbrook).
3. Introduction of New Members
Mr. Bible introduced new committee members Jerry Brown and John Magnusson. Mr.
Brown and Mr. Magnusson said a few brief words about themselves and their interest in
the Committee.
4. PCS Introduction by Dennis Miranowski
Public Works Director, Dennis Miranowski, made a presentation regarding PCS. He
explained that PCS is a sweeping change in technology. In 1993, the FCC auctioned off
51 trading areas for PCS digital communication. PCS is more advanced than cellular
technology and provides a clearer, greater enhanced signal for a lower cost. PCS
providers are in the process of erecting antennas to begin service provision in the near
future.
Mr. Miranowski said that the City can view the antennas through two different roles--
regulator and developer. The City can exercise its regulatory authority and try to prohibit
antennas in specified areas. The City can also encourage antennas in certain City-owned
locations and benefit from the collected revenues for leased land. He explained that for
example, a neighboring city collects about $150,000 annually in antenna revenues for one
reservoir. Furthermore, when the FCC sold the markets, Congress passed legislation
prohibiting cities from creating ordinances that prohibit antenna towers or prohibit PCS
service. Thus, the City staff believe that the City should work with PCS providers to
encourage location of towers on desired sites as a strategy to control the locations of the
antenna towers.
Staff identified several sites at the Longridge, Nordic, Valleywood, and Palomino
reservoirs that the City will market to PCS providers. If these sites do not suite the needs
of the providers, additional sites will need to be considered. Some cities have placed
antenna towers in parks. City staff identified Hayes, Wildwood, Cedar Knolls, and
Hagemeister parks as possible sites. The Central Maintenance Facility (CMF) is also a
possible site. Mr. Miranowski explained that a 125 foot tower is currently located at the
CMF which is owned by AT&T. Sprint has approached the City about collocating on the
tower. Mr. Miranowski concluded that the City should adopt an ordinance the attract
users to reservoirs and selected sites and should prepare lease agreements for these sites.
Mr. Rodell asked if more antenna towers are required for PCS than cellular. Mr.
Miranowski replied that cellular requires towers every 7 to 10 miles, while PCS requires
towers every 2 miles. Mr. Bible asked if there are “holes” in the City that the currently
identified sites do not cover. Mr. Miranowski responded that the possible holes are in the
southern section of the City, much of which is not developed, and some of which is covered
from sites in Rosemount. Mr. Humphrey stated that he wants to manage the antenna tower
issue before it becomes a problem. He mentioned that there are numerous options,
including municipal ownership of the towers, such as in White Bear Lake.
Mr. Bible requested clarification of the Committee’s role in drafting an ordinance. Mr.
Miranowski responded that he would like the Telecommunications Committee to review
the draft ordinance before it appears before the Planning Commission. Mr. Bible
requested clarification about the lease agreements that have been drafted. Mr. Miranowski
responded that City staff have worked with the City Attorney.
Ms. Jane Bremmer stated that she represents APT, a PCS provider, and said that APT is
looking primarily for elevated sites and hospitable communities. She said that APT
prefers not to build antenna towers due to the cost of construction, and that APT prefers to
use existing facilities, such as roof tops. Ms. Bremmer said that APT plans to activate in
February of 1997. Mr. Bible asked if APT typically asks the City for site locations. Ms.
Bremmer responded that although there is a finite amount of space that can work for their
grid, they appreciate identified sites because the grid can be steered to some extent.
Mr. Tom Creighton added that he drafted the Burnsville and Eagan lease agreements and
asked where the City got a model lease agreement. Mr. Miranowski responded that the
City used the LMC model, the Burnsville and Eagan agreements, and other models to form
a hybrid. Mr. Miranowski added that the City has retained the firm Montgomery and
Watson for technical advise. Mr. Creighton asked what the timetable was for the zoning
ordinance. Mr. Miranowski responded that he hoped to have it complete by the first of the
year. Mr. Creighton warned that lease agreements signed before such time will be
“grandfathered in” and may not be desired.
5. Franchise Renewal Discussions
The people present for the discussion introduced themselves and identified their positions
as they related to the discussions. Ms. Lisa Washa gave Mr. Bible a signed copy of the
Standstill agreement. Mr. Bible explained that the City is putting together a public
meeting to solicit public input regarding telecommunications needs. He added that since
the Committee’s scope has been widened, so will the scope of the input derived from the
public. Mr. Charles Grawe distributed a draft copy of letter soliciting input for the
meeting.
Ms. Washa asked if the meeting was to solicit input for franchise renewal only or for
telecommunications in general. Mr. Bible responded that both would be solicited. Ms.
Bremmer took issue with the implications in the letter that the Cable provider would also
be a telecommunications provider in the future. Mr. Bible responded that the intent of the
Committee is to broadly assess the telecommunications needs of the community, including
cable. He said that the City can use its experts to decide which aspects of the needs are
part of the cable franchise and which are not. He also said that the potential exists for the
Cable provider to also provide high speed data transmission. Mr. Creighton added that
only two sentences in the letter refer to Marcus. He suggested that a new paragraph start
after the third sentence to help separate Marcus and telecommunications. Mr. Bible also
suggested that the words “cable technology” in the third sentence be changed to
“telecommunications technology”. Various Committee members referred to numerous
articles suggesting that cable providers will also be telecommunications providers.
Mr. Humphrey said that he wants to encourage the Cable company to provide alternative
services. He cited an example where a local business left Apple Valley because the
Telephone company could not provide the needed services. Ms. Bremmer responded that
the current system is not capable of supporting telecommunications signals, hence the
purpose of discussing a system rebuild. Mr. Creighton said that he would prepare
questions that would facilitate the public discussion of the issues. He warned the
Committee to discourage participants from engaging in conversations that would dominate
the general discussion and conversations centered around specific technologies.
Mr. Bible expressed his desire to start the renewal quickly. He explained that part of the
renewal is conducting a needs assessment. He expressed his displeasure about the length
of time necessary to complete the standstill agreement. Ms. Bremmer said that she shared
Mr. Bible’s frustration over the time taken thus far and wished to begin meeting with the
Negotiating Task Force. She explained that 75% of the franchise language is dictated by
law and is not subject to negotiation.
Mr. Grawe gave a brief update on the process of forming a joint powers agreement
between Apple Valley, Rosemount, Lakeville, and Farmington. He explained that the
cities hope to negotiate essentially as one unit with Marcus. Mr. Creighton added that the
joint agreement could free up staff time and may speed the negotiations up. He said that
he is preparing a document for the four cities outlining a franchise proposal. He also
clarified that Marcus would still have four separate, but similar franchises. Ms. Washa
expressed concern for the Farmington franchise which expires in 1997. Mr. Grawe added
that he had talked with the Northern Dakota County Cable representative and learned that
Continental Cable is already upgrading to 750 MHz.
Mr. Bible expressed his interest in continuing the Apple Valley process regardless of the
joint powers talks. Mr. Creighton said his draft documents should be ready shortly.
The group agreed to set a meeting for Monday, November 18, 1996, at City Hall for the
Negotiating Task Force to begin talks with Marcus. The Task Force will meet separately
at 12:00 noon and meet with Marcus at 2:00 p.m..
6. Review of the Third Quarter Complaint Log
The Committee reviewed the third quarter complaint log. Ms. Washa explained that she
instituted a new “hot gram” system which allows for faster response times.
7. City Home Page on World Wide Web
Mr. Gary Shade made a presentation to the Committee regarding a home page on the
World Wide Web. He believes that commerce is moving onto the Internet and that there
will be a demand for on-line services, regardless of the means of providing on-line services.
He showed several sample pages that he created for other customers.
Mr. Shade explained that his basic package includes a domain name, six pages, and one
year’s hosting services for $1,200 annually. This also includes 1 hour per month for page
maintenance. Each additional hour is $50. Additional pages can be set up for $100 each.
Mr. Shade explained that he does copyright all web pages to provide protection to the
customer. One feature which could also be added is a link to an e-mail account so that the
City could receive input and questions from the public through the page.
Mr. Bible said that he visited Mr. Shades Web site several times and was impressed by the
site design. He asked if Mr. Shade had done any other city web pages. Mr. Shade
responded that he had not as of this time. Mr. Bible asked if Mr. Shade had examined the
City’s kiosks and evaluated the information presented on the kiosks. Mr. Shade responded
that he had examined the kiosks and believes them to be a starting point, but plans to
greatly enhance the content for the Web page.
Mr. Humphrey asked how Mr. Shade would determine what information would be
provided on the site. Mr. Shade responded that he would talk to the customer and use
information given to him by the customer. He would then work with the information to
design a site. He prefers to provide his own graphic designs, rather than having the
customer attempt to tell him how to design the page. Mr. Shade also provides all the
maintenance of the completed page.
Mr. Humphrey asked what would be required of City staff to administer the e-mail
received and keep page information up-to-date. Mr. Shade explained that the City would
probably need to designate a liaison who would check for new mail and respond to
inquiries. Mr. Shade said that Department heads could simply e-mail him copies of
updates for the pages. There was a brief discussion on other existing Web pages such as
DTED, Dakota County, Apple Valley Fire Department and City Code vendors that could
be used through hyper text links to essentially provide the City’s information without the
City being responsible for maintaining the information.
Mr. Bible said that he though it would serve the City well to have a home page and a
domain name. He warned that there may be some political questions asked through e-mail
which do not have answers which City staff will be able to provide. Mr. Humphrey
suggested that an autoresponse be established that would explain the process for deciding
political questions.
A motion to recommend to the City Council approval of a web page proposal, including
one year of hosting service, maintenance of a domain name, assessment and integration of
existing kiosk information, identification of hyper links to other related organizations, and
persistent frame technology, was approved 6-0 (Mr. Rodell motion, second by Mr.
Westbrook).
8. Additional Items
a) Mr. Dennis LaComb announced that Hook and Ladder will begin cablecast on
Channel 21. Unlike Police Beat, which is in a magazine styled format, Hook and Ladder
will focus on a specific topic, such as fire prevention. Mr. LaComb is also working on a
City quarterly newsmagazine program.
b) Mr. Grawe announced that the MACTA conference will be held November 7th
and 8th at the Sheraton Metrodome. Since no members will be available to attend the
conference, Mr. Grawe said he would attend the entire conference.
9. Adjourn
The meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m. 6-0 (Mr. Hugstad-Vaa motion, second by Mr.
Rodell).