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URBAN AFFAIRS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
TUESDAY, JANUARY 27, 2004
1 CALL TO ORDER
The meeting of the Urban Affairs Committee was called to order by Chair Shirley Doering at 7.00 p.m.
Members Present: Barry Berg, Sandy Breuer, Shirley Doenng, Shelley Madore, Sharon Schwartz and
Pam Sohlberg
Members Absent: Robin Curran.
Staff Present: Susan Bast, Recycling Coordinator; Kathy Bodmer, Assistant Planner; Mike Hammerstad,
Code Enforcement Officer; Tim Miller, Code Enforcement Officer
Guests present: Ron Moemng and Mike Trulsan, Waste Management; Craig Seim, BFI, Bill Morris and
Peter Leatherman, Decision Resources.
2 APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION Shelley Madore moved, seconded by Sharon Schwartz, to approve the agenda adding a
discussion item to provide a report of a recycling facility tour The motion carned unanimously
3 APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 23, 2003
MOTION Sharon Schwartz moved, seconded by Shelley Madore to approve the minutes of the
September 23, 2003 meeting. The motion carried unanimously
4 DISCUSSION ITEM
RECYCLING FACILITY TOUR
Shelley Madore and Sharon Schwartz reported that they had taken a tour of the Waste Management
recycling facility m Minneapolis with the Mayor and Sue Bast. They described to the group how the
recyclables were processed. Sharon noted that air, gravity and magnets are used to separate the
materials. Shelley described how other items are separated by individual workers by hand off of a
conveyor belt.
Shirley asked whether the facility accepts materials from other companies, or whether it is only available
to Waste Management. Ron Moemng, Waste Management, said that the facility accepts some recyclable
from third parties.
Shelley talked about the recent article m the Star Tribune that discussed the single container recycling
system that is being implemented by Waste Management m various cities m the Twin Cities area. Barry
Berg noted that it is difficult for smaller haulers to compete with Waste Management because the cost of
constructing these types of facilities is very expensive.
Ron Moemng stated that the "single sort" recycling program provides collection twice monthly He
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stated that some communities need to amend their ordinances m order to allow recycling collection less
frequently than once weekly
WASTE MANAGEMENT REFUSE SURVEY RESULTS
Bill Morris, Decision Resources, presented the results of the Waste Management Refuse Survey to the
Committee. He explained that the telephone interviews were conducted in August 2003 and lasted an
average of 18 minutes each. He stated that by interviewing 400 residents in Apple Valley, his company's
findings would reflect the opinion of the residents in Apple Valley within an error rate of ~ 5%. He
stated that the survey found in general that residents were very adamant about what they liked and what
they didn't like.
The survey found that 91% of the residents say that they recycle, with 83% stating that they do it
weekly Bill commented that this is a "halo" question, which means that because people know that they
should recycle, they are more likely to answer in the affirmative, resulting m higher participation
numbers than what might actually be taking place (upward bias) In terms of what might increase
recycling, "not having to separate recyclables" was a fairly strong response. Seventy-four percent (74%)
of the residents stated that they received their recycling and garbage information from the City
Newsletter Bill Morns noted that of the information sources listed, the City's website came in with a
fairly low response rate.
Seventy-two. percent (72%) of the residents say they place their containers next to the garage, while 28%
place it someplace else. Of those who place their container someplace else, 80% do it for the benefit of
the hauler Awareness of the ordinance was high, with 80% of the respondents stating that they were
aware of the ordinance requirements. Bill Moms noted that the highest number of those who were
unaware of the ordinance resided in the southeast quadrant of the City
Next, the interviewers asked respondents whether they favored maintaining the present ordinance. Sixty-
one percent (61%) favored rnaintaimng it, while 25% wanted it changed. Bill noted that those not
currently placing their garbage at the garage opposed the ordinance. He also noted that women tended to
favor the existing ordinance, while more men wanted the ordinance changed.
Next the interviewers presented the residents with a list of arguments for and against the door side
collection ordinance. Bill stated that most of those who were interviewed agreed with the arguments,
both for and against the ordinance. After being presented with the arguments for and against the
ordinance, the residents were asked again whether they supported or opposed the door- side collection
requirement. Bill noted that the net shift from the first time the question was asked to the second time
was miniscule; most respondents did not change their position after heanng the arguments.
When asked whether the residents would support a single collection day in a neighborhood, 64% of the
respondents supported the idea. The next serves of questions asked what type of hauler options the
residents preferred. The survey mentioned three options (1) the City could contract with a single hauler
to collect for the whole City; (2) one hauler could be selected to collect from a designated zone; or (3)
the City could make no change to the current open hauling system. Bill stated that many respondents
responded intensely that the system should remain an open hauling system. Sixty-six percent (66%) of
the respondents said they wanted no change. He said the intense response is consistent with what he has
found m most communities rn the Twin Cities.
Bill Morris summarized the survey results by saying that the telephone survey found that the current
door side collection ordinance has a good deal of support from residents. In fact, residents support the
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ordinance at a ratio of 2 to 1 He also stated that a key finding from the survey was that people's opinion
of the ordmance Zs firmly held. That's why there was tittle shift m the respondent's feeling about the
ordinance after being presented with arguments for and against it. Lastly, Bill stated that there appears to
be good support for one collection day within a neighborhood.
Sharon Schwartz noted that in the 2000 survey, 72.8% of the respondents said they were aware of the
ordmance, while the new Decision Resources found that now 80% of the respondents were aware of rt.
The Committee wondered whether sending out surveys helped to educate people about the ordinance
requirements. Kathy Bodmer asked whether awareness of the ordinance could be considered a "halo"
question similar to recycling activity Bill Morris answered no - he would not expect an upward bias
with this question. The Committee stated the City should use the most effective information sources
available, including the Crty Newsletter, to educate residents about the refuse collection ordmance
The Committee discussed issues regarding the enforcement of the ordinance. Sharon Schwartz stated
that she has never liked the way the enforcement provisions in the ordinance were wntten, and that rt is
unenforceable in its present form.
MOTION Pam Sohlberg moved, seconded by Shelley Madore to make the following motion. "As a
result of the Decision Resources Telephone Survey, the Urban Affairs Committee proposes to undertake
a review of the City's Refuse Collection Ordinance. The Committee wishes to review how to enhance
the enforcement of the door-side collection requirement and explore how to implement day-certain
collection m the City "Motion carried unanimously
5 OTHER BUSINESS
Staff informed the Committee that the City Council has directed the Committee to review the City's
Natural Resources Management Ordinance to determine whether the City can prohibit a resident from
cutting down trees on his or her private property Legal staff and the City's Natural Resources
Coordinator will be at the next meeting to discuss this item.
6 ADJOURNMENT
MOTION Shelley moved, seconded by Sandy Breuer to adjourn the meeting. The meeting adjourned at
8 45 p.m.
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