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HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/05/1981 � • CITY OF APPI,11� VAZZ�,Y URBAN AFFAIRS COMMITTii:� MINUT�S F��BRUARY 5, 1981 PRES��NT: Myers, Deters, McKay, Nietry, Schwartz. Staff Member Kelley. ABSi;F�T: Doering. �. Call Me�;tin� to Order. Meeting was called to order by Chairman Myers at 7: 30 p.m. 2. Approval of January 15, 1981 T�iinutes. MOTI�N: by Schwartz, seconded b3� Deters for approval of minutes as mailed. Y�S - 5. VO - 0. 1�lotion carried. 3. Discussion of Ordinance to Control Advertisin� I,iterature. Letter received 12/?_2/80 and forwarded to Committee from l�?rs. Jackie �ailkinson, 7283 Upper 139th Street W. (See Attached) . A�s. Schwartz asked if there hadn 't been another letter received compZaining about the literature. Mr. Kelley replied counting this one two letters had been received and a Council Member had been called. Mr. �cKay asked P�ir. Kelley to explain the rules on all the boxes that were put up over a fair portion of Apple Valley. Mr. Kelley replied that the green or black boxes were put up for delivery of non-mail items by an independent service who deliver the literature. He said they were on separate stands from the mail box and people had the option of whether or not they wanted them. Mr. P�icKay said he thought the resolution of Mrs. Wilkinson' s problem �as to use one of the baxes. I'=:r. Metry stated people have the right to advertise and distribute, but the mechanic s of the di stri hutio n v�as the pro blem. l�ir. Kelley stated the only time a city passed an ordinance was when there was a real common problem. NIr. Myers stated g�.r��e sale signs were another problem. Mr. McKay asked if there �y��as a way of standardizing them. PZs. Schwartz questioned if Nirs. Wilkinson had tried calling and complaining to the advertising agency deliver��g the material, stating tha-t she had called the Countryside at one time. Mr. Kelle,y stated that he didn't know. Ivls. Schwartz went on to say that both the Countryside and This `aJeek are now delivered in plastic bags and hung on the doornob in her area. Urban Affairs Commi,�tee Minutes • February 5, 1981 � Page 2 Mr. Metry stated there didn't seem to be much of a precedent for an ordinance and it would have to be enforced. Mr. Kelley said it would be awfully hard to enforce as the police would have to go out and find out who was deliver�ng the material. Ms. Det�'?�sstated she thought it would be nice if they would put it in the newspaper box. Mr. Metz�y stated he f�'��, she should be called saying that there doesn't seem to be a widespread problem, and that perhaps if she cooperated with the people leaving this material it would solve the problem. n�s. �eters said she could see a problem in that both the Country- side and This ��1eek was delivered thi s way. Mr. Me�try added that some magazines are also delivered to the door now, and he thought there would be more things handled this way. Ms. Deters questioned if there was anyway to get the green and black boxes citywide for the people who want them. T�Ir. Metr,y stated he thought the only eff ective way would be to adopt an ordinance that would require the separate containers. Mr. Kelley said he could check to see how many cities actually try to reg- u3ate this to any extent. t�ir. Metry su�gested the carriers be contacted who could offer to supply the containers, adding that they have a service to pro- vide and they should be aware of the problem. He said if they would contact ��Trs. Wilkinson it would establish some rapport with city govez�nment. Other Items: I��s. Schwartz mentioned the hote� fire in Las Vegas, and the fact that she had been hearing quite a bit about discussion of re- guir�,�.� �prinkler systems in l�Zinneapolis. She said this made her wonder if Apple Valle,y had any type of ordinance for sprinklers particularly in re�ard ta the nursing home that is to be built and a proposed mot�� , She said her thinking was that sometraing should be done before the buildings were built. Mr. Kelley replied that all cities in the seven county metro area have to follow the Minnesota State Building Code, and it has to be adopted by them. He said the fire code was a part of that, and some was by refer- ence back and forth. He stated some areas of it could�a't be altered. He stated he didn 't thi.nk Apple Valley could require it if tYze building code doesn 't require it. 1`�r. Kelley went on to say that requirement �f sprinklers depended upon the type of build.ing, and �hat methods are taken to make it fireproof. T��'�r. McKay stated that he had learned a great deal ahout fire sprinkling systems through his place of busine�s, and he explained the �roblems of installation in an already esta�lished building, installation in a new building, stating they were very expensive and that it has now been found that sprinklers are needed to go up as well as down because of false ceilings where the fire can burn and drop down below. He also explained pro�lems with having to have heat temperature activators, problems with �eakage, the Urban Affairs Com�' tee Minutes I February 5, 1981 � � � Fage 3 problem of them going off �� mistake, the fact that the building has to be heated, as well as the maintenance and upkeep expense. M�. Sch�aartz asked what type of fire inspection went on in Apple Valley. NIr. Kelley rex�orted that there were fire inspec- �tions conducted by a part-time fire marshall who was looking for combustib�;e material. He stated that he was a fireman who had to go through special training; that he didn't know how often each building was inspected, or how many hours each week he works at this however he has said there is too much to do on a part-time position. Mr. Metry stated if discu ssion �as about development of condomin- iums then he felt it might be appropriate to �ook at the codes on initial construction. Ms. Schwartz stated her thinkin� was that if there was somethin� that eould be done it sho�.��wd ..be looked at, and she was interested in knowing what Apple Val�.ey can do and how the City is governed. rtiIs. Schwart� reported on information obtained at the Hazardous Waste Meetings she had a���nded, and stated there would be a meeting February 9th regar�ing selection of candidate sites if anyone �°r�� .��fs� C��mmittee wanted to attend. P�OTIO� : by I�cKay, seconded by Deters, for meeting to adjourn. Y �S - 5. NO - 0. l��otion carried. Meeting adjour�ed at 8: 25 p.m. w�